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Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #30 on: September 11, 2022, 08:48:48 PM »
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  • Some trads are like Evangelicals in that they'll follow a celebrity priest or a priest who lets internet fame get to him and treat his words like gospel. They treat Fr. Ripperger like Muslims do Muhammad.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #31 on: September 11, 2022, 09:04:21 PM »
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  • Some trads are like Evangelicals in that they'll follow a celebrity priest or a priest who lets internet fame get to him and treat his words like gospel. They treat Fr. Ripperger like Muslims do Muhammad.
    This is not limited to Ripperger. It's something I've been vocal about lately. Williamson, Lefebvre, Cekada, Sanborn, Dimond, Walthen, etc. it is a phenomenon that is widespread among trads that is very disconcerting.

    This division and idolizing of clerics is all part of Satan's game.

    "Every kingdom divided against itself shall be made desolate: and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand."
    [Matthew 12:25]

    "For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears:"
    [2 Timothy 4:3]

    For while one saith, I indeed am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollo; are you not men? What then is Apollo, and what is Paul? The ministers of him whom you have believed; and to every one as the Lord hath given."
    [1 Cor. 3:4-5]
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #32 on: September 11, 2022, 09:15:00 PM »
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  • This is not limited to Ripperger. It's something I've been vocal about lately. Williamson, Lefebvre, Cekada, Sanborn, Dimond, Walthen, etc. it is a phenomenon that is widespread among trads that is very disconcerting.

    This division and idolizing of clerics is all part of Satan's game.

    "Every kingdom divided against itself shall be made desolate: and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand."
    [Matthew 12:25]

    "For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears:"
    [2 Timothy 4:3]

    For while one saith, I indeed am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollo; are you not men? What then is Apollo, and what is Paul? The ministers of him whom you have believed; and to every one as the Lord hath given."
    [1 Cor. 3:4-5]

    This phenomen happens on every group without a strong leadership. It didn't happen in the Church because we had the Pope, who has always been the symbol of unity. 

    When we have no Pope, or, at least, no Catholic Pope, divisions and learders will emerge. It's inevitable. When there's a vacuum in power and leadership, it is quickly filled.

    It is a social phenomenon. We would expect Catholics to be better than this, but you cannot deny human nature.

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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #33 on: September 11, 2022, 09:17:46 PM »
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  • This phenomen happens on every group without a strong leadership. It didn't happen in the Church because we had the Pope, who has always been the symbol of unity.

    When we have no Pope, or, at least, no Catholic Pope, divisions and learders will emerge. It's inevitable. When there's a vacuum in power and leadership, it is quickly filled.

    It is a social phenomenon. We would expect Catholics to be better than this, but you cannot deny human nature.
    It's an unfortunate circuмstance, and the biggest proof that there is no true Pope at this time.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #34 on: September 11, 2022, 09:37:26 PM »
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  • Well, he is very clear that Laity do not have the authority to pray prayers of exorcism. He's modified some of them into Deliverance prayers and he does strongly encourage people to talk to a spiritual director before they begin praying them.
    I need to clarify what I said there. He took most all of the prayers in Deliverance Prayers For The Laity from books he was given while training to be an exorcist. There is a different edition of the same title for clergy only that has prayers of exorcism contained in it.

    He explains it in the first few minutes of the video below. He didn't write the prayers and they were already in use before he assembled them. He did mention a Deliverance Prayer for breaking Free Masonic ties that was written by a Protestant. He catholicized it and included it in the book.

    And on some deliverance prayers in the book he tells the reader how to protect himself from demonic retaliation. For example if a prayer begins with "in the name of Jesus I bind thee.." Laymen can simply alter it to "Jesus, I ask you to bind.." ( by doing so the layman does not imply authority he does not have )



    Also here is part 1 of 3 on generational spirits.




    For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places
    Ephesians 6:12


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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #35 on: September 12, 2022, 05:59:40 AM »
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  • This is not limited to Ripperger. It's something I've been vocal about lately. Williamson, Lefebvre, Cekada, Sanborn, Dimond, Walthen, etc. it is a phenomenon that is widespread among trads that is very disconcerting.

    This division and idolizing of clerics is all part of Satan's game.

    "Every kingdom divided against itself shall be made desolate: and every city or house divided against itself shall not stand."
    [Matthew 12:25]

    "For there shall be a time, when they will not endure sound doctrine; but, according to their own desires, they will heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears:"
    [2 Timothy 4:3]

    For while one saith, I indeed am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollo; are you not men? What then is Apollo, and what is Paul? The ministers of him whom you have believed; and to every one as the Lord hath given."
    [1 Cor. 3:4-5]
    I listen to mainly Fr. Wathen and Fr. Hesse pretty much every day and have done so for years, but heck, I'm always open to try others that I can learn from. We become drawn to hearing the truths of our holy religion preached by priests, which is the reason for listening. 

    Listening to talks and sermons on cassette tape a few times a week is what we did as children to learn the faith when faithful priests were nowhere to be found. My mom would get us all in the living room to listen to the priests preaching, warning and teaching the faith, and she would occasionally pause the tape to explain or clarify some things that as children, we could relate to. Fond memories from dark days. I wish someone would have recorded pre-sede Fr. Sanborn, to this day I still have very great respect for him from his sermons way back then.

    St. Paul tells us that faith comes from hearing, so the phenomenon is good in that it helps us learn and grow in the faith, provided what you're hearing is the truly the faith - no matter who is doing the preaching - and not a watered down version.

    A major reason for the various different beliefs among the faithful within the Church is because there is a severe lack of *authentic* Catholic teaching by today's trad priests.
     
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #36 on: September 12, 2022, 12:17:25 PM »
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  • Some trads are like Evangelicals in that they'll follow a celebrity priest or a priest who lets internet fame get to him and treat his words like gospel. They treat Fr. Ripperger like Muslims do Muhammad.
    I listen to Fr. Ripperger (many others are on his website also) while I cook, clean or bake. I know of other traditional Catholics who listen to his website  and we listen for spiritual guidance in our daily lives. None of us listen to him for info on exorcisms and certainly none of him do as you purport above. Calumny is a sin.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #37 on: September 12, 2022, 05:08:52 PM »
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  • One of many anonymous priests on Father Ripperger's website:

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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #38 on: September 12, 2022, 07:28:46 PM »
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  • One of many anonymous priests on Father Ripperger's website:


    Thank you, I'll watch it now ! 
    For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places
    Ephesians 6:12

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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #39 on: September 13, 2022, 03:12:22 PM »
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  • I need to clarify what I said there. He took most all of the prayers in Deliverance Prayers For The Laity from books he was given while training to be an exorcist. There is a different edition of the same title for clergy only that has prayers of exorcism contained in it.

    He explains it in the first few minutes of the video below. He didn't write the prayers and they were already in use before he assembled them. He did mention a Deliverance Prayer for breaking Free Masonic ties that was written by a Protestant. He catholicized it and included it in the book.

    And on some deliverance prayers in the book he tells the reader how to protect himself from demonic retaliation. For example if a prayer begins with "in the name of Jesus I bind thee.." Laymen can simply alter it to "Jesus, I ask you to bind.." ( by doing so the layman does not imply authority he does not have )



    Also here is part 1 of 3 on generational spirits.



    Thank you for the clarification. The person who told me he composed some of the prayer was wrong, and I'm  glad to hear that!


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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #40 on: September 13, 2022, 03:33:34 PM »
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  • Thank you for the clarification. The person who told me he composed some of the prayer was wrong, and I'm  glad to hear that!
    Quite welcome

    He's not for everyone but it's enough to just say that. 
    For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places
    Ephesians 6:12


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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #41 on: September 13, 2022, 03:56:54 PM »
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  • I listen to Fr. Ripperger (many others are on his website also) while I cook, clean or bake. I know of other traditional Catholics who listen to his website  and we listen for spiritual guidance in our daily lives. None of us listen to him for info on exorcisms and certainly none of him do as you purport above. Calumny is a sin.
    Yes. Me too.  
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #42 on: September 13, 2022, 07:38:04 PM »
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  • The St. Michael's prayer and the Rosary are really all you need, practically. I have first-hand experience of the St. Michael's prayer's efficacy. You don't need a book full of spurious prayers from some celebrity exorcist.
    We say these together daily along with this prayer each morning

    This prayer (somehow related to La Salette) was dictated by Our Lady to a soul on 13 January 1863. The prayer received the Imprimatur from the local Bishop; was recommended to the faithful by Pope Pius IX; and later indulgenced by Pope Leo XIII and also by Pope Pius X.
    It is recommended to learn it by heart.


    See also http://www.marysheel.org/two-prayers/5-august-queen-prayer.html



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=yQdHa_6oEqA
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #43 on: September 13, 2022, 10:32:08 PM »
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  •   We have zero, I repeat, zero reason to delve into the source of our temptations any deeper than to know the devil is tempting us. This is a curiosity that is not only dangerous to delve into, there is something a bit perverse about it as well. What you describe strikes me, or is likened to him writing about us trying to figure out a particular devil's personality, scary for him to even publish such a thing, even though these days I think most would disagree.


    I looked back through the introduction of Dominion. I usually just skim through introductions of books. Anyhow Fr Ripperger actually agrees with you. 

    In the introduction he mentions the difference between the laity version of Dominion and that of the clergy version.
    "One aspect of this text for the laity is anything that would lend itself to on the side of the laity has been removed for the version which is for the clergy only. Self diagnosis on the side of a person seeking help is virtually never accurate, as every exorcist will attest. Since demons tend to hide and feed the person false information, any self-diagnosis will virtually never be correct or precise. This does not mean they cannot use the tools in the spiritual warfare that are provided in this text and others but that they should avoid analyzing themselves and, instead, approach a knowledgeable and prudent priest, who can help them navigate any extraordinary influence or complex spiritual warfare issue."
       
    So there we see he is not promoting self-diagnosis nor offering anything dangerous to delve into. He is warning one not to do so.

    In my case I simply saw that what I experienced was oppression vs obsession after reading the section on the different kinds of oppression. No deep thought or discernment on my part. Just something that stood out as obvious.
    For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood; but against principalities and power, against the rulers of the world of this darkness, against the spirits of wickedness in the high places
    Ephesians 6:12

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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #44 on: September 14, 2022, 05:35:32 AM »
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  • In my case I simply saw that what I experienced was oppression vs obsession after reading the section on the different kinds of oppression. No deep thought or discernment on my part. Just something that stood out as obvious.
    I understand that, yet to tie back to him the vivid envisioning of what was apparently the devil just seems wrong to me. Or perhaps better said, would be wrong *for* me. After giving it a little more thought, maybe that's something you need for whatever reason, but I sure don't. 

    I don't know about him tho. He does have some very good sermons, many other trad priests also have good sermons, but a major thing with me is that like Fr. Ripperger, most trad priests nowadays not only do *not* roundly condemn the new "mass," nearly all of them compromise to some extent believing it's just as good as the true Mass, albeit inferior.

    Or they will roundly condemn it one time, then go the other way the next. I've seen this often enough in my life time that it kinda stands out somehow, not sure how to explain it. And I am not talking about sermons with repetitive condemning or promoting of the NOM, it's the compromising of it that leads to more compromise in other areas of the faith that I am talking about.

    In my mind, that compromise with the new "mass" often comes through in certain aspects of some of their sermons, regardless of the subject matter. Which is why I just sum it up by describing it as his are sermons given by an indult priest.
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse