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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
« Reply #150 on: September 30, 2022, 08:15:03 PM »
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    • With his term Gnosticism, (completely misused, by the way), he's denouncing Traditional Catholics for believing that they actually adhere to true Catholicism, and denounces their rejection of the Conciliar Church as having departed from the truth.  There's an implied relativism there, perfectly in tune with the spirit of Vatican II, where he's effectively asserting that the Conciliar Church has as much a claim to the truth as Traditional Catholics do.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #151 on: September 30, 2022, 08:20:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Cera on September 30, 2022, 05:59:10 PM
    Father Ripperger answered "under the authority of Bishop ____."
    The demon immediately left.

    Diabolical ruse if I ever saw one.  If the demons wanted to promote the notion that the Conciliar "bishops", 98% of whom are heretics and whose episcopal consecrations are almost certainly invalid, there's no better way to do it than by pretending to flee from the "authority of the Bishop".  It's actually pathetically transparent.  Why else would the demon ask, "Under whose authority do you cast us out?" except for the purpose of setting up this ruse?  Demon knew that Ripperger was acting on behalf of the Conciliar bishop.  He asked this question precisely to elicit Ripperger's response and then to feign leaving in fear of said authority, precisely to persuade people that Conciliar "bishops" are legitimate and Catholic.

    It's rather pathetic that Ripperger was taken in by this ruse.  And this is why the Traditional Rite, as cited above, bids that priests not engage with the demons in this manner.  Because, well ..., demons LIE, and they deceive.  So if in fact the Conciliar bishops are a bunch of heretics outside the Church, that the devil wants to have people believe represent the true Church (instead of recognizing it for the diabolical counterfeit that it is), what better way to perpetuate that idea than by playing Ripperger this way ... and then have him repeat this story to the faithful on his celebrity exorcist tours?  Oh, well, we see the demons acknowledging that the Conciliar hierarchy is the true hierarchy, so we should stay in our Conciliar parish and not become one of these schismatic Trads who operate outside the bishop's "authority" that is feared by the demons ... with the result that these Catholic continue to attend NO Masses that are offensive to God, harmful to faith, and harmful to their souls, along with receiving doubtful Sacraments.

    BTW, I've known people who wrote to him asking for some guidance or help, falsely believing him to be a dedicated Traditional Catholic, and some were simply ignored, and others blown off with a message akin to, "go see your local [Modernist Novus Ordo] bishops [who in most cases doesn't even believe in the existence of demons]."

    Ripperger is a pawn of the devil and is doing the devil's bidding here.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #152 on: September 30, 2022, 08:33:48 PM »
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    • There's also this notice on the website that's completely inappropriate:

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    Although the videos on the Sensus Fidelium YouTube channel are not official works of Fr. Ripperger, they are created using his original content. As such, I offer the standard reminder: All of Fr. Ripperger’s files are offered as PenanceWare, which require that you do one of the following if you listen to or watch them:

    • donate $1.00 via Father’s Paypal, which supports his work.
    • offer up a decade of the Rosary, or
    • perform some form of penance for the intentions of Fr. Ripperger (for each individual media file).
    The same rule applies if you copy and distribute to friends.

    So now Ripperger's sermons require some form of payment to listen to?  When it's his obligation as a priest to nourish the faithful?  If one receives benefit from his sermons, then they probably SHOULD pray for him out of gratitude, but setting up this "PenanceWare" structure smacks of simony.

    Also, in the above sermons, Ripperger contradicts himself.  At first he says that God allows Trads to fall into sins of purity in order to humble them, and then he goes on about how it's a generational demonic spirit.  So is it God or the demon behind the impurity?

    He makes the outrageous statement that impurity is EVERY BIT AS BAD among Trads as among the Conciliars, and probably worse.  That's a bald-faced lie.  Among the Conciliars, the vast majority of them don't even consider impurity to be a sin in the first place.  They don't go to Confession at all.  Meanwhile, most Trads I know fight hard against impurity, and overall they are FAR MORE PURE than their Conciliar counterparts.

    When Trads do succuмb to impurity, it's because they have compromised with a world that is awash in impurity ... and so out of the other side of his mouth, he criticizes them for staying away from the world when they should be going out into the world, and he calls that their "mission".  Thus he's adopting the Vatican II spirit of opening the windows to the world ... which is completely taken over by Satan.  How did that work out for the Conciliar Church?

    "We have to stop detracting against the Magisterium."  There's no detraction, Ripperger ... these Conciliar bishops are promoting a false religion and wholesale heresy.

    At one point he criticizes as "clearly demonic" the criticism of the Conciliar Church.  No, it's Ripperger who's doing Satan's work.

    He paints an ugly, mean-spirited, uncharitable caricature of Traditional Catholics.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #153 on: September 30, 2022, 08:51:25 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 30, 2022, 08:03:34 PM


    He creates an extremely uncharitable caricature of Trads that is not unlike that of Bergoglio. 
    I’m so glad you and Yeti brought this up!  That is the sermon that I heard and I was so shocked that this flies w/everyone.  His audience is traditional or at least conservative Catholic, right? I really felt like this broke the seal of confession to smear a minority of people, claiming they’re commonly committing sins of impurity and that you know about this through hearing their Confessions?  I don’t see how it doesn’t break the seal.  And I think the man is a blatant liar.  I’d never read his books, he is no bueno.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #154 on: September 30, 2022, 08:59:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 30, 2022, 08:33:48 PM
    There's also this notice on the website that's completely inappropriate:

    So now Ripperger's sermons require some form of payment to listen to?  When it's his obligation as a priest to nourish the faithful?  If one receives benefit from his sermons, then they probably SHOULD pray for him out of gratitude, but setting up this "PenanceWare" structure smacks of simony.

    Also, in the above sermons, Ripperger contradicts himself.  At first he says that God allows Trads to fall into sins of purity in order to humble them, and then he goes on about how it's a generational demonic spirit.  So is it God or the demon behind the impurity?

    He makes the outrageous statement that impurity is EVERY BIT AS BAD among Trads as among the Conciliars, and probably worse.  That's a bald-faced lie.  Among the Conciliars, the vast majority of them don't even consider impurity to be a sin in the first place.  They don't go to Confession at all.  Meanwhile, most Trads I know fight hard against impurity, and overall they are FAR MORE PURE than their Conciliar counterparts.

    When Trads do succuмb to impurity, it's because they have compromised with a world that is awash in impurity ... and so out of the other side of his mouth, he criticizes them for staying away from the world when they should be going out into the world, and he calls that their "mission".  Thus he's adopting the Vatican II spirit of opening the windows to the world ... which is completely taken over by Satan.  How did that work out for the Conciliar Church?

    "We have to stop detracting against the Magisterium."  There's no detraction, Ripperger ... these Conciliar bishops are promoting a false religion and wholesale heresy.

    At one point he criticizes as "clearly demonic" the criticism of the Conciliar Church.  No, it's Ripperger who's doing Satan's work.

    He paints an ugly, mean-spirited, uncharitable caricature of Traditional Catholics.
    What's wrong with offering up a rosary ? 
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #155 on: September 30, 2022, 09:10:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: HolyAngels on September 30, 2022, 08:59:21 PM
    What's wrong with offering up a rosary ?
    Yeah, I'd say we would be obligated by charity to pray he converts to the traditional Catholic Faith.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #156 on: September 30, 2022, 09:33:54 PM »
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    • Quote from: DigitalLogos on September 30, 2022, 09:10:11 PM
    Yeah, I'd say we would be obligated by charity to pray he converts to the traditional Catholic Faith.
    No qualms about that but my point is the 1.00 donation is optional.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #157 on: September 30, 2022, 09:36:59 PM »
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    • Quote from: HolyAngels on September 30, 2022, 09:33:54 PM
    No qualms about that but my point is the 1.00 donation is optional.
    Agreed. 
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #158 on: September 30, 2022, 10:06:46 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on September 30, 2022, 07:57:51 PM
    Bovine excrement.  Strawman?  You clearly don't know what that term means.

    I have zero burden whatsoever.  I'm not encouraging laity to perform exorcisms.  Ripperger is.  And FallenAngels is also promoting it.  Burden of proof is squarely on them to justify it.

    And you too are a liar.  I have posted pictures of pages from his book demonstrating exactly what I asserted.  He has prayers for the laity to directly address demons and command them, cast them out, etc.

    FallenAngels lied claiming that none of the prayers in Ripperger's book have the laity directly addressing demons.  Then he lied claiming that there's backing for this practice in the Church Fathers, Doctors, saints, and theologians.  Should be a relatively simple thing then to produce just a single one of them.

    Still waiting ...
    Thank you for branding me one of the minions of Satan lol. I don't get that enough. 

    Jesus himself rebuked his disciples when they came to him whining about coming upon those casting out demons.

    The photo I posted with the instructions for use of the "Exorcism against Satan and the rebellious angels" by Pope Leo states the laity can use the prayer. At the end of the prayer there is an Imprimatur by + Manuel of Barcelona dated Dec 1931

    As early as the third century the minor orders included that of exorcist.

    If you are wanting evidence that the church ever authorized solemn exorcism by the laity I doubt it exists. Ripperger never claimed it exists nor did I claim he did. All Deliverance prayers which ask Jesus, Mary, or Michael are not solemn exorcisms.



    If you read his chapter on Structure of Authority in Dominion you'll see why he concludes Laity can pray deliverance prayers and binding prayers under certain/precise restrictions. For example, he doesn't/wouldn't condone me praying a deliverance prayer over my next door neighbors meth head son. I would not have authority to do so.

    You may not come away seeing it his way, but it's helpful to know exactly what you are rejecting.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #159 on: September 30, 2022, 10:16:59 PM »
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    • Here is an explanation of what he means by generational spirits fwiw.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #160 on: September 30, 2022, 10:59:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Melanie on September 30, 2022, 08:51:25 PM
    I’m so glad you and Yeti brought this up!  That is the sermon that I heard and I was so shocked that this flies w/everyone.  His audience is traditional or at least conservative Catholic, right? I really felt like this broke the seal of confession to smear a minority of people, claiming they’re commonly committing sins of impurity and that you know about this through hearing their Confessions?  I don’t see how it doesn’t break the seal.  And I think the man is a blatant liar.  I’d never read his books, he is no bueno.

    That was a smear job against Traditional Catholics just a tad short of Bergoglio's derogatory condemnations.  He smears Traditional Catholics and the insists that rejecting the Conciliar "Magisterium" is diabolical.  He creates an uncharitable caricature of Traditional Catholics (using "Trads" as a derogatory term).  It's a blatant lie that "Trads" are more prone to impurity than the Conciliars.  At least Trads CARE about committing sins against purity, whereas the Conciliars justify them, and they rarely confess any of it ... all because they've gone and submitted to their great Conciliar pastors.  If he's "heard" more Trad confessions about impurity, that's because "Trads" regularly go to Confession, whereas the Conciliars will have 2 people show up at Confession in a parish of 10,000, and then the next day all but 2 prance up for Holy "Communion" (and the vast majority don't believe in the Real Presence).

    Ripperger is in fact doing Satan's work in many respects.  It's not unknown for those who arrogantly take on demons to get possessed themselves.  For all Ripperger denounces pride, he comes across as arrogant and condescending in his sermons, and he has an arrogant "know-it-all" tone about him.  He thinks he has cornered the market on truth and True Catholicism ... sounding just like the "Gnostics" he condemns.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #161 on: September 30, 2022, 11:08:16 PM »
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    • Ripperger needs to be exposed, since he's doing a lot of damage, snookering people by pretending to be a Traditional Catholic.  Thus people like a couple posters here defend him tooth and nail as being "Traditional" whereas there's absolutely no evidence to back it up.  He derides Traditional Catholics, dangerously advises lay people to perform exorcisms, claims that rejection of the Modernist Conciliar Magisterium is diabolical, etc.

    Wake up.  Ripperger is a con-artist, not a Traditional Catholic, and doing Satan's work while pretending to be doing the opposite.  He falls for the tricks of demons (that he was tricked by when he arrogantly engaged with them contrary to Traditional Catholic teaching ... it takes arrogance to engage demons like that), and then spreads their deceit by claiming from the pulpit that the demons flee from the authority of the Modernist heretic Novus Ordo non-bishops.  He tries to leverage this also to defend and condone the Protestant bastard Rite "Mass".

    He's doing MUCH more damage by posing as a Traditional Catholic.  If this stuff was coming from a clown-mass-officiating Conciliar hippie priest, nobody would give it two thoughts, but because he hides behind the smells and bells of Traditional Catholicism (while denouncing it in principle), he's fooling people and leading them into error.

    His arrogant, condescending, know-it-all tone also tends to turn weak-minded individuals into his cult-like followers.

    Begone, Ripperger.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #162 on: October 01, 2022, 09:47:02 AM »
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    • Yes, agree with you on all points. Ripperger does not deserve a following, but some Catholics treat him like a celebrity pastor. It's wrong.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #163 on: October 01, 2022, 10:10:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: trad123 on September 28, 2022, 11:42:52 PM
    Does he list citations; book and page numbers?

    If he lists St. Thomas and St. Alphonsus, what is the citation?

    Where is the proof that deliverance prayers have a history of use by the laity?
    " Indeed to adjure privately is licit to all; solemnly however, only to the Ministers of the church to that which is constituted by and with the express permission of the bishop."
    St Alphonsus Theologia Moralis is the work.
    Ibid., n. 91 is the citation.

    That's on page 144 of Dominion in the chapter on Structure of Authority.  Ripperger goes on to explain the limitations of it all. He makes sure the reader doesn't take "Indeed to adjure privately is licit to all.." to mean " there you have it, adjure demons freely".

    As he should.
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    Re: Anyone follow Fr Ripperger here ?
    « Reply #164 on: October 01, 2022, 10:18:33 AM »
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    • Quote from: HolyAngels on October 01, 2022, 10:10:53 AM
    " Indeed to adjure privately is licit to all; solemnly however, only to the Ministers of the church to that which is constituted by and with the express permission of the bishop."
    St Alphonsus Theologia Moralis is the work.
    Ibid., n. 91 is the citation.

    Full citation to St. Alphonsus please, not just to "n.91" in Ripperger's book ... which I have no intention of buying.  As we saw earlier, your previous "footnote" to St. Thomas was to where he was describing demons as immaterial beings and had no relevance to the actual subject under dispute.
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