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A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
« on: April 18, 2022, 01:52:46 PM »
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  • There is a need for more resources to teach children and adults about the truth about how dinosaurs are just another part of God's Creation, not products of the "millions of years" of evolution that never were.

    It is true that there are many informative lectures, books, and articles on this subject, but I think there is a need to distill this information into some form of entertainment. The evolutionists do this very effectively. They produce, or help to produce, movies or books aimed at informing people about dinosaurs in an entertaining way, and then throw in their propaganda in order to indoctrinate the viewer/reader into their false beliefs. They use dinosaurs as ambassadors for evolution. 

    My question is, why not use dinosaurs as ambassadors for teaching people about Creation? Some Protestants have produced material along this line, but sadly I cannot find any Catholic who has done the work of blending dinosaur-themed entertainment with telling people the truth about them. 

    For this reason, I wish to share an idea that may or may not gain traction. I propose a website, started perhaps by myself, that would act in a similar manner to this one: 

    https://www.prehistoricdomain.com/

    The idea is to create an immersive experience that functions like a digital zoo of sorts—you have a map and click on different exhibits and view dinosaurs, with some narration provided that gives you facts about the animals, with none of the evolutionist baloney involved. I think I'd also include a visitors center/museum that presents information to the viewer that presents facts taken from the Kolbe Center and other sources relating the inaccuracy of Lyellian geology, the historicity of the Flood and the Antediluvian era, and the finding of dinosaur blood cells (which totally pokes a hole in the "they've been extinct for millions of years" mantra). 

    I wouldn't suggest ripping off the jeep tour idea from Jurassic Park as the example website did. Not only would it be painfully obvious where the inspiration behind that digital attraction is from, but it would also be highly inefficient for a real-life theme park that would have hundreds, even thousands of visitors daily! 

    Instead of using more modern forms of animation, I would prefer that the dinosaurs be animated with practical effects. I'm thinking along the lines of stop motion: 





    (FYI, there are tutorials on how to make such props on YT)

    It would probably take more time and money to produce with effects like that rather than something based around CGI, but I think it would be worth it in terms of making the animals look all the more realistic, and to really sell the awe and wonder of the dinosaurs. In my opinion, intuition tells you that when you're looking at a physical prop you're looking at something that exists in time and space, whereas only really well done CGI can allude the "video game" appearance of CGI animation. The environments inside the exhibits would also be done with practical effects. 

    I think I could lend my voice to be the voice of the park announcer. I would run it through a filter to make it sound like I'm talking through some kind of a speaker to make it sound more authentic. 

    Perhaps I could reach out to the Kolbe Center and see if anyone there is interested in creating something like this? 

    I'll think more seriously about this once I'm done with the e-book on Russia, but these are my thoughts for now, and I think it's something worth sharing. 








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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #1 on: April 18, 2022, 05:05:37 PM »
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  • I would first like to see more triumphalist media centered around the Gospels and Saints, much like Gibson's The Passion, before Creationist accounts of dinosaurs. But, as a parent of a young boy who loves dinosaurs, it would be great to see more media directed towards the truth in this field.

    It seems like in the realm of Catholicism, the Kolbe Center are the only ones talking about this. Everyone else, even many in tradlandia, seems to accept the mainstream explanations for dinosaurs.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #2 on: April 18, 2022, 07:58:55 PM »
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  • Unless we can convince children of the enormity of the deceit involved in evolution and prove to them the truth of the creation “model”, they will continue to be lost and drawn away from the Gospel and the saints.

    I have experienced and proved this with my own children who are all firm “creationists”, faithful Catholics who love the Gospel and the saints. (We were converted by protestants!)

    Go for it, St Louis.

    Children’s books are produced by protestant Creation org, Answers in Genesis.  Are there such books from a Catholic source?
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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #4 on: April 18, 2022, 09:29:22 PM »
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  • Looking further for catholic creation books for kids I came across a lovely site, moreover in Australia, so no prohibitive postage costs, then digging deeper I came to this

    https://www.garrattpublishing.com.au/sample/TwoHandsofGod_sampler.pdf

    Someone needs to get on the job ASAP. St Louis?
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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #5 on: April 19, 2022, 08:18:12 AM »
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  • There is a need for more resources to teach children and adults about the truth about how dinosaurs are just another part of God's Creation, not products of the "millions of years" of evolution that never were.

    ...

    Perhaps I could reach out to the Kolbe Center and see if anyone there is interested in creating something like this?

    I'll think more seriously about this once I'm done with the e-book on Russia, but these are my thoughts for now, and I think it's something worth sharing.
    952 Kelly Rd.
    Good idea, I think Mr. Owen would listen and consider your idea, pleas contact him:

    VA 22842
    The Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation
    952 Kelly Rd.
    Mt. Jackson,
    VA 22842

    Phone: 540-856-8453
    Email: info@kolbecenter.org








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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #6 on: April 19, 2022, 10:09:24 PM »
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  • I would first like to see more triumphalist media centered around the Gospels and Saints, much like Gibson's The Passion, before Creationist accounts of dinosaurs. But, as a parent of a young boy who loves dinosaurs, it would be great to see more media directed towards the truth in this field.

    It seems like in the realm of Catholicism, the Kolbe Center are the only ones talking about this. Everyone else, even many in tradlandia, seems to accept the mainstream explanations for dinosaurs.

    Intriguingly enough, I could use this hypothetical website to tell the triumphalist stories of certain saints, such as Pope St. Sylvester and St. Daniel the Prophet, who slayed dragons. Their stories would be included in the museum/visitors center part of the "zoo", in an exhibit dedicated to telling the stories of various "dragon" encounters throughout history, and pointing out that these animals were truly the last of the dinosaurs and other "prehistoric" reptiles. 

    Looking further for catholic creation books for kids I came across a lovely site, moreover in Australia, so no prohibitive postage costs, then digging deeper I came to this

    https://www.garrattpublishing.com.au/sample/TwoHandsofGod_sampler.pdf

    Someone needs to get on the job ASAP. St Louis?

    Thanks for the resources and encouragement, Nadir! It's greatly appreciated. 

    I don't know if I have the skill to write children's books, but that could be something I do down the line. I could even use information from the hypothetical website, and put the books up on there. If I do go down the route of using stop motion puppets, that would definitely save me the time and money involved with having to search and pay for artists to illustrate dinosaurs for these books. I could just photograph them and insert pictures of them in the books. I'm sure to a child, a realistic and well-done puppet (and that's the key right there) would capture the imagination more than a 2D illustration. 

     
    952 Kelly Rd.
    Good idea, I think Mr. Owen would listen and consider your idea, pleas contact him:

    VA 22842
    The Kolbe Center for the Study of Creation
    952 Kelly Rd.
    Mt. Jackson,
    VA 22842

    Phone: 540-856-8453
    Email: info@kolbecenter.org


    Thanks Mr. G!

    First, I wish to get the Russia e-book done and get that out of the way. But I certainly will reach out to him afterwards. 

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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #7 on: April 22, 2022, 06:52:08 PM »
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  • Though it is not Catholic, doesn't the Creation Museum in Kentucky (near Cincinnati) deal in some of these themes?

    https://creationmuseum.org/


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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #8 on: April 22, 2022, 09:47:58 PM »
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  • Though it is not Catholic, doesn't the Creation Museum in Kentucky (near Cincinnati) deal in some of these themes?

    https://creationmuseum.org/
    Indeed it does. My son took his family to visit. It is impressive. The sad thing is that folk will come to an understanding of the world and creation that is not the Catholic Understanding.

    The museum is one offshoot of Answers in Genesis which was started by the Australian protestant, Ken Ham. It was through Answers in Genesis that our family came to understand the importance of the issue of the evolution / Creation. Then by the grace of God, we discovered Gerry Keane’s exposition of the Catholic doctrine of Creation.

    I have searched Kolbe Foundation website and it seems they have no specific outreach into the education of children, through literature and other modern means. I believe that this is a serious lack for the Catholics. 

    I hope that St Louis, and other brightminds, can make some inroads into this crucial issue.
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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #9 on: April 22, 2022, 11:54:33 PM »
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  • Indeed it does. My son took his family to visit. It is impressive. The sad thing is that folk will come to an understanding of the world and creation that is not the Catholic Understanding.


    How so?  If a Catholic believes in a literal six-day creation, and a young earth, how is that different from what they present at the Creation Museum?

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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #10 on: April 23, 2022, 01:47:00 AM »
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  • How so?  If a Catholic believes in a literal six-day creation, and a young earth, how is that different from what they present at the Creation Museum?
    The whole point is that most Catholics do not believe in the literal six days and a young earth, or they are confused on the issue, or they believe in “theistic” evolution or even the “big bang” or they don’t care. Now, I think it’s great that people can be informed of the truth of Creation, and we do share much with Answers in Genesis in that knowledge but....

    never forget that they are an apologetics organisation, and their understanding of Faith and Church is not ours. For example

    from Answers in Genesis

    “For Roman Catholics around the world, the pope is recognized not only as the leader of the church, but also as the primary voice of authority in the church.2

    Insert here (see next post)

    Holy Scripture are supremely authoritative. No survey respondent is in a position to “rate” the ministry of the Lord Jesus Christ, and no person alive may validly pass judgment on the authority of the Word of God. That the pope has been elevated, in the eyes of so many, to a position of such tremendous authority is actually an affront to the true authority of Jesus Christ that is expressed in His Word. “
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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #11 on: April 23, 2022, 01:58:33 AM »
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  • After the footnote 2 insert

    This stands in stark contrast to our position here at AIG. We teach without apology that the lord Jesus Christ is the one true leader of the church and that the 66(sic) God breathed books of holy scripture...
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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #12 on: April 23, 2022, 05:52:50 AM »
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  • Sorry for the above messup. I had a lot of trouble copying and pasting. Here is the link
    https://answersingenesis.org/blogs/international-outreach/2015/01/06/the-pope-and-the-head-of-the-church/

    Having given the question more thought, AIG  may not have trouble telling the story of Genesis, but they are very poor when it comes to theology . Consider how they would deal with the Catholic truth from the very early Church that Mary is the New Eve, or that she is the Ark of the Covenant.

    What they get right is what the Church has always taught, but because of undermining in the Church, they are able to capitalise and lead faith hungry folk into false religion.
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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #13 on: April 27, 2022, 09:27:45 PM »
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  • Though it is not Catholic, doesn't the Creation Museum in Kentucky (near Cincinnati) deal in some of these themes?

    https://creationmuseum.org/

    This project would be quite different from a museum; it would be more like an interactive website. One great thing about covering these themes from a Catholic perspective is that I can use sources that Protestants would never likely bring up. For example, when discussing the issue of the sauropod dinosaurs (the large long-necked herbivores like Brachiosaurus) something that does come up is how they would have needed to eat tremendous quantities of plants every day in order to stay alive.

    Intriguingly, Bl. Jacobus de Voragine provides this detail in The Golden Legend which can be taken as proof not only that the warm climate of the supposed "Mesozoic" actually corresponds to the Antediluvian Era, but also that the sauropods would have flourished in that age:

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    From the time of Adam until after Noah’s flood, the time and season was always green and tempered; and all that time men ate no flesh, for the herbs and fruits were then of great strength and effect, they were pure and nourishing. But after the flood the earth was weaker and brought not forth so good fruit, wherefore flesh was ordained to be eaten.

    (The Golden Legend, Vol. I)





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    Re: A Dino-Themed Educational Project Idea
    « Reply #14 on: April 27, 2022, 09:43:11 PM »
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  • Indeed it does. My son took his family to visit. It is impressive. The sad thing is that folk will come to an understanding of the world and creation that is not the Catholic Understanding.

    The museum is one offshoot of Answers in Genesis which was started by the Australian protestant, Ken Ham. It was through Answers in Genesis that our family came to understand the importance of the issue of the evolution / Creation. Then by the grace of God, we discovered Gerry Keane’s exposition of the Catholic doctrine of Creation.

    I have searched Kolbe Foundation website and it seems they have no specific outreach into the education of children, through literature and other modern means. I believe that this is a serious lack for the Catholics.

    I hope that St Louis, and other brightminds, can make some inroads into this crucial issue.

    Glad to see that you share my interest in this subject. I hope to use a combination of entertainment and information to make the inroads you discuss here. 

    I've put some thought into what species I would feature first on the website, and I will send a draft list to Mr. Owen when I get the time to pitch the idea to him. One dinosaur that I am definetly considering (alongside beloved classics like Tyrannosaurus, Triceratops, and Stegosaurus) is the relatively recently discovered Dreadnoughtus.







    Not only is a fascinating animal to imagine in terms of its scale, but there's a greater story to be told about it, as this excerpt from the Answers in Genesis article on the creature demonstrates: 

    Catastrophically and Completely Buried


    Dreadnoughtus was evidently struck down and rapidly buried in the prime of life. The titanosaur beside it suffered a similar fate. [Paleontologist Kenneth] Lacovara says, “It appears that both individuals died and were buried rapidly after a river flooded and broke through its natural levee, turning the ground into a soupy mixture of sand, mud and water.”2

    Lacovara says that there is a geologic reason most titanosaur fossils are so fragmentary:

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    To date all of the real giants that we’ve known about have only been known from very fragmentary remains. And there is a geologic reason for this: If you can imagine an animal the size of a house and that animal dying and keeling over on a hard flood plain somewhere at that moment very little of its body is in contact with the earth, so very little of its skeleton actually has the opportunity to enter the fossil record before it’s either scavenged or weathered away.4

    Lacovara rightly acknowledges the necessity of rapid burial in the preservation of fossils. But what kind of river catastrophically destroyed and completely buried a couple of dinosaurs the size of two London buses? Another far more catastrophic source of water-borne sediment—sufficient to drop on these two strapping young dinosaurs like many tons of bricks—is easily found in the pages of the Bible’s book of Genesis chapters six through nine, a historical record of the Flood that catastrophically covered the Earth.

    The fossil record contains a rich record of the rapid burial of billions of animals and the order in which they were swept away and sorted or simply buried where they stood. Only the application of worldview-based interpretations of scientific data interpret the geologic layers like those in which these dinosaurs were found as millions of years old.