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Traditional Catholic Faith => Art and Literature for Catholics => Topic started by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 18, 2014, 11:55:26 PM

Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 18, 2014, 11:55:26 PM
I don't see Song of Bernadette or the Miracle of our Lady of Fatima
Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: ggreg on December 19, 2014, 12:58:37 AM
I don't see a link.
Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on December 19, 2014, 12:59:56 PM
No Link

Did they mentioned Ben Hur.

That is my favorite move of all time. I saw one of the first showings in 1959.

The movie is very respectful of the times depicting the times of our Lord.

You did not see the Lion roar as it is customary for 20th Century Fox Movies.
Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: magdalena on December 20, 2014, 04:40:55 PM
Quote from: ggreg
I don't see a link.


http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vatican%27s_list_of_films



Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: LaramieHirsch on December 20, 2014, 04:57:40 PM
Hmmm.   The list is disturbing for what it excludes and also for what it includes:



Quote
◾Andrei Rublev (1966)
◾Babette's Feast (1987)
◾Ben-Hur (1959)
◾The Flowers of St. Francis (1950)
◾Francesco (1989)
◾The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1966)
◾La Passion de Notre Seigneur Jesus-Christ (1905)
◾A Man for All Seasons (1966)
◾The Mission (1986)
◾Monsieur Vincent (1947)
◾Nazarin (1958)
◾Ordet (1954)
◾The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
◾The Sacrifice (1986)
◾Therese (1986)


Values

◾Au Revoir les Enfants (1988)
◾The Bicycle Thief (1949)
◾The Burmese Harp (1956)
◾Chariots of Fire (1981)
◾The Decalogue (1988)
◾Dersu Uzala (1975)
◾Gandhi (1982)
◾Intolerance (1916)
◾It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
◾On the Waterfront (1954)
◾Rome, Open City (1945)
◾Schindler's List (1993)
◾The Seventh Seal (1956)
◾The Tree of Wooden Clogs (1978)
◾Wild Strawberries (1957)


Art

◾Citizen Kane (1941)
◾8½ (1963)
◾Fantasia (1940)
◾Grand Illusion (1937)
◾La Strada (1954)
◾The Lavender Hill Mob (1951)
◾The Leopard (1963)
◾Little Women (1933)
◾Metropolis (1927)
◾Modern Times (1936)
◾Napoleon (1927)
◾Nosferatu (1922)
◾Stagecoach (1939)
◾2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
◾The Wizard of Oz (1939)


Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: magdalena on December 20, 2014, 05:01:48 PM
"Diary of a Country Priest", a film directed by Robert Bresson and based on the book by Georges Bernanos was quite good.  The director also did a film on St. Joan of Arc, and the author wrote the libretto for "Dialogue of the Carmelites", an opera, which was made into a film.  Neither of the two are listed among the Vatican's Best.
Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on December 20, 2014, 05:16:50 PM
I'll have to go and find that list.  I don't remember seeing the Scarlet and the Black.
Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: magdalena on December 20, 2014, 05:23:02 PM
No "Henry V" on the list either.
Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: Miseremini on December 20, 2014, 05:35:26 PM
Looks like none of the following made the list

 Song of Bernadette,
Ours Lday of Fatima
The Wizard of Heaven (Jean Vianney)
Marcellino
When in Rome,
First Legion
Shoes of the Fisherman
Miracle in the Rain
The Miracle
Becket
Keys of the Kingdom
I Confess
Come to the Stable
Francis of Assisi
The Cardinal
Don Bosco
The Robe
El Cid
The Staircase
Going My Way
Etc
Etc
Etc


Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: magdalena on December 20, 2014, 05:43:47 PM
I remember liking "The Agony and the Ecstasy".  Not on the list.
Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: Traditional Guy 20 on December 20, 2014, 11:30:32 PM
So I see the Vatican respects the sick films of Weimar Germany, the sick films of Hollywood, and the films of FDR lover Orson Welles. What a surprise. :rolleyes:
Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: BTNYC on December 22, 2014, 12:20:13 AM
Quote from: Miseremini
Looks like none of the following made the list


The Cardinal





Jєω-driven Americanist garbage that couldn't have shilled for Dignitatis Humane more blatantly if it were ghost-written by John Courtney Murray himself (and I'm not altogether convinced it wasn't). Frankly I'm stunned not to see it on this list.
Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: BTNYC on December 22, 2014, 12:58:26 AM
Quote from: LaramieHirsch
Hmmm.   The list is disturbing for what it excludes and also for what it includes:



Quote
◾Andrei Rublev (1966)
◾Babette's Feast (1987)
◾Ben-Hur (1959)
◾The Flowers of St. Francis (1950)
◾Francesco (1989)
◾The Gospel According to St. Matthew (1966)
◾La Passion de Notre Seigneur Jesus-Christ (1905)
◾A Man for All Seasons (1966)
◾The Mission (1986)
◾Monsieur Vincent (1947)
◾Nazarin (1958)
◾Ordet (1954)
◾The Passion of Joan of Arc (1928)
◾The Sacrifice (1986)
◾Therese (1986)


Values

◾Au Revoir les Enfants (1988)
◾The Bicycle Thief (1949)
◾The Burmese Harp (1956)
◾Chariots of Fire (1981)
◾The Decalogue (1988)
◾Dersu Uzala (1975)
◾Gandhi (1982)
◾Intolerance (1916)
◾It's a Wonderful Life (1946)
◾On the Waterfront (1954)
◾Rome, Open City (1945)
◾Schindler's List (1993)
◾The Seventh Seal (1956)
◾The Tree of Wooden Clogs (1978)
◾Wild Strawberries (1957)


Art

◾Citizen Kane (1941)
◾8½ (1963)
◾Fantasia (1940)
◾Grand Illusion (1937)
◾La Strada (1954)
◾The Lavender Hill Mob (1951)
◾The Leopard (1963)
◾Little Women (1933)
◾Metropolis (1927)
◾Modern Times (1936)
◾Napoleon (1927)
◾Nosferatu (1922)
◾Stagecoach (1939)
◾2001: A Space Odyssey (1968)
◾The Wizard of Oz (1939)




I can only speak of the films with which I'm familiar, so...

It's a Wonderful Life - Although certainly theologically dubious (angels who were once men... and who read Mark Twain in Heaven?) and smarmily sentimental, it is nonetheless commendable for being probably the only Hollywood film in history to advance Catholic Social Teaching with respect to economics. Could be subtitled "Rerum Novarum for Dummies."

But apparently "The Vatican" sees this film's "values" as being of relatively equal merit with Jєω h0Ɩ0h0αx propaganda like Schindler's List, despairing existentialist excrement like The Seventh Seal and a secular hagiography of a degenerate Hindu pervert (Ghandi).

The "Art" list is filled with films that meet only a modernist's definition of art. Makes sense that a pack of Modernists would compile it.

A Man for All Seasons is actually a pretty decent telling of the martyrdom of St. Thomas More. But, once again, it is of a quality apparently comparable to trash like Francesco, a film wherein St. Francis of Assisi is depicted as a modern day thug, as played by the dependably thuggish Mickey Rourke.... and The Gospel According to St. Matthew, a banal dramatization of the eponymous Gospel (King James Version), set to an eclectic soundtrack (including blues songs - a forerunner to the abominable Godspell and JC Superstar), dedicated (naturally) to "the happy, familiar memory of John XXIII" and directed by a notorious open sodomite (whose name I will not mention) who went on to direct a film (whose title I will not mention) that is the single most vile, Satanic, hateful piece of fαɢɢօt pornography that I have ever had the extreme displeasure of being exposed to (in film class in college). Even though I was deep in secular darkness when I saw it, it still revolted me on a profound, spiritual level. Regardless of the merits of his "St. Matthew" film (which are slim to none by the way), no man who produced such a demonic work (and let alone an avowed and notorious sodomite) should be praised in any way by any ostensible Catholic body - let alone one that claims to speak on behalf of the Holy See.

But this is all par for the course for Modernist occupied Rome... It wouldn't surprise me in the least if The da Vinci Code or The Last Temptation of Christ make it to the next version of this list.
Title: 1995 45 movies selected by Vatican
Post by: RomanCatholic1953 on December 23, 2014, 11:50:45 AM
I am shocked beyond belief. Not even the 1952 Movie,"The Miracle of our Lady of Fatima" was
not even mentioned.
This movie cause many conversions to the Catholic Faith than any other movie made by
Hollywood.
A correction to my previous post.  The 1959 movie Ben-Hur was made  by Metro-Goldwym
Mayer not 20th Century Fox.