A sad story -

I just spoke with a young Trad man whose wife just left him. She is filing for divorce, child support, etc. She took their 2 kids, 1 still a newborn, and moved back in with her parents. She has also gone back to the Novus Ordo. They had been married for 3 or 4 years.

What caused it? I didn't get a chance to hear the whole story, but he said that her parents were micro-managing and interfering in his family. This is extremely dangerous for any relationship. Parents need to respect the head of the house -- the father -- whether that is their son or their son-in-law. Sure, it might be challenging for some parents to let go, but TOO BAD. Do it for your son or daughter's sake -- and the sake of your grandchildren! Intact, functional families are beneficial for all parties concerned, including society as a whole.

I just can't believe the insanity. Just another example of how the Novus Ordo milieu is NO DIFFERENT FROM ANY RANDOM SAMPLING OF THE MODERN WORLD: ex-wives, ex-husbands, divorce, "experience" with multiple partners, single moms, and all that crap.

Only whores (male and female) and the occasional widow/widower should ever be able to compare what it was like being with this person vs. that other person. But today, almost every adult has experience of 2+ sɛҳuąƖ partners. It's ridiculous. And now the Novus Ordo is getting in on the game too. This is NOT natural, by the way. Promiscuity creates difficulty in bonding. Humans weren't meant to emotional/psychological bond with a series (large or small) of partners.

(Side note: in the case of widows or widowers who get remarried, it is still completely different. You still don't have anyone else on earth who has "been with you". You won't have those awkward moments where 2 people in the same room have both been with you carnally -- which happens all the time in the world when a man has to drop off his children at his ex-wife's house and her new boyfriend is there. That is an ugly situation that God doesn't want anyone to ever have to experience. Think about it - it would never happen if people followed God's law.)

And on a strictly human level, men don't like raising another man's child. Children from past marriage(s) are a living reminder that your spouse used to be with another person carnally -- a thought which is disturbing to most men (and probably women too). This unfortunately applies to widow/widower situations too, but it's true that marrying a widow/er is a special calling; not something 100% of people are up for. But nevertheless, there are plenty of singles who would consider marrying a widow/er -- after all, it's humanly speaking very difficult to be jealous of the dead. The ex-spouse being deceased means the surviving spouse can never "go back" to that spouse, etc. The dynamic is totally different from divorce/remarriage.

Here is an analogy: Consider that the Greeks were pagan without rejecting Christ, whereas neo-pagans have to explicitly reject Christ. So the Greeks could be some kind of virtuous pagans, not knowing any better, whereas today that's not possible since it involves being hostile to Christianity, which is known to the whole world. In a similar manner, a widow/er who has several children and remarries can be genuinely positive about the deceased spouse, who the children are part of (50%). It's impossible to truly honor and love the ex-spouse you divorced and continue to be separated from. Some divorced couples make a good show of getting along, but it's hard to convince your children that you love them completely when you reject living with the father/mother of your children. You can say he is a great guy all day long, but the kids can ask, "then why don't you want to live with him anymore?" there's always a certain element of rejection -- of that ex-husband as well as the children who are 50% from him.

And of course children don't like this -- divorce messes them up, you have the whole "you're not my dad/mom!" and all that.

Not to mention the Feminist angle: quickness to take away a child's dad, "single moms rule", raking men over the coals to drain them dry financially, undermining a man's authority in the home and everywhere else, etc.

Some Trads have the audacity to act like they are infallible and sinless like the Protestants -- there are Trad Catholics among your parishes who have done just that. We are all sinners.

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Have you got her side?
How many sides are there now, one, two, or three?
St. Joseph was married too.
They were apart from the trad church?
What kind of example does that make?
Does counseling set the best example?

A part* when you’re on a cell phone sometimes mistakes are made  

I know st. Joseph was married too. It was a comment on maybe the guy wasn’t a good husband. And usually there are three sides to every story like this his, hers, and the truth.

Counseling with a great priest would help commication issues, and help find answers to problems that won’t offend God.

I bet she considers herself eligible for marriage again. At least she gets to be a hero single mom with 2 kids.  

Sad to say, there are trad chapels where a single mom gets more respect than an "old maid" who has kept her purity while working in the world to earn her living.  I'm not sure which thread this comment belongs in, here or "unkind trads."  A number of years ago I was turned down for a job at an SSPX chapel because I was the old maid---considered tainted by living on my own and working in the world, and "suspect" because I'd never married or had children. They had difficulty filling the position because of wanting someone with experience willing to work for very low pay.  They gave the position to---you guessed it!----a single mom, never married, with three children, a recent convert, no prior experience, but needed work.  A trustee told me that I'd be "an unsuitable example" to those I'd work with.  
It shows that even the most "devout" trads can have their minds steeped in liberalism and be oblivious to their hypocrisy.
It is as well I did not get the job because the entire project was cancelled after a year when the priest was transferred.  The new priest saw it was not working so wisely shut it down.  The single mom soon stopped going to Mass, and about two months later asked for a reference for her new job, a similar position at a Protestant church, where she was then going with her kids.  
She was a person in search of "religious welfare," not of Truth.  

I wonder why that single mom stopped going to mass, ‘old maid’. Maybe it was because other people judged her for daring to convert with three fatherless children. How did you get all this dirt on her? Was it religious welfare or are you just making assumptions? 

Maybe she needed that job more than you.

Actually you don’t know that he didn’t abuse her.... mental/emotional abuse is probably more damaging to a person then physical. This is from someone who went through both.
All I came here to say was that you weren’t giving the full story before condemning her. I said my peace now I shall take my leave of this thread!

Garbage.  UNLESS there's serious abuse ... and the OP could have mentioned that ... there's never any moral justification for leaving your husband.  Snowflake women are want to characterize someone who might occasionally not live up to her idea of a husband as "abusive".  I've seen that over and over again.  Because they argue ... even if most of the time the woman is the aggressor and starts the fights by her disrespectful and insubordinate attitude ... she ends up claiming abuse.

God was quiet clear on how you are to treat women, and if you don’t yes you have the right to walk away.

You absolutely do not.  That's completely subjective.  There are very clearly-defined types of circuмstances which justify separation, and nothing justifies divorce/remarriage.

You absolutely do not.  That's completely subjective.  There are very clearly-defined types of circuмstances which justify separation, and nothing justifies divorce/remarriage.

Otherwise, any snowflake could just complain that her husband is "abusive" because he has gone with his opinion on some matter over hers, as is is right, or leave him even if he has just reason to rebuke her for something.