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Would this be sinful?
« on: May 05, 2012, 09:40:54 PM »
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  • What if, for work, I move to a part of the world in which it's unlikely that I'll be able to go to Mass? Would this move be sinful? And if I do move there, what about confession? I'm sure I'll get into mortal sin and be unable to find a priest.


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    Would this be sinful?
    « Reply #1 on: May 05, 2012, 09:57:29 PM »
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  • It would be highly detrimental to your Catholic faith.

    I'm leaning in the other direction.  I'm considering the option of moving closer to a traditional chaple, one that has daily Mass and multiple Masses on Sunday.


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    Would this be sinful?
    « Reply #2 on: May 05, 2012, 11:02:52 PM »
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    What if, for work, I move to a part of the world in which it's unlikely that I'll be able to go to Mass? Would this move be sinful? And if I do move there, what about confession? I'm sure I'll get into mortal sin and be unable to find a priest.


    If you are, as you say, sure you will fall into mortal sin, then it would be mortally sinful to go.  There's no question about it.  It is better to die the slowest and most painful death and let others endure the same, than to ever fall into mortal sin.  It would be better for the world to be destroyed than for one to commit a single venial sin.  Nothing justifies sin.  Ever.

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    Would this be sinful?
    « Reply #3 on: May 05, 2012, 11:15:38 PM »
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  • OP here. Perhaps it would help if I specified exactly where I'm talking about: South Korea. There's an SSPX presence in Seoul. But I might not live there. I think it's Novus Ordo everywhere else.

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    Would this be sinful?
    « Reply #4 on: May 05, 2012, 11:22:42 PM »
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    OP here. Perhaps it would help if I specified exactly where I'm talking about: South Korea. There's an SSPX presence in Seoul. But I might not live there. I think it's Novus Ordo everywhere else.


    If you are sure that any place or situation will lead you into mortal sin, it is a mortal sin to voluntarily go there.  Period.  We must avoid all near occasions of sin, and such would be a near occasion of sin.  Near occasions of sin differ from person to person.  If the computer or internet, for example, are a near occasion of sin for a man, he sins mortally by using them.  Apply the same logic to any other situation or activity or place.


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    Would this be sinful?
    « Reply #5 on: May 06, 2012, 05:19:02 AM »
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  • If you traveling there is the reason you'll commit the mortal sin then what Pere said would apply. If you knowingly put yourself in a position you know you are very likely to commit a mortal sin you sin by going. If you just commit mortal sins by nature I suggest you work on this, say the rosary everyday and work on rectifying your internal disposition.

    Now hypothetically should the above not apply, and you just happen to fall into mortal sin the things one would do is A) Say an act of contrition, and be perfect in that act of contrition. B) Go to a Priest for confession. If there is a Traditional Priest go to him. If there is none in an emergency the Church grants Jurisdiction to ANY Priest to hear your confession even if he is excommincated or laicized(It would be heresy to say that a laicized Priest is not a Priest because like Baptism you cannot take away Holy Orders). Now when I say a Priest I mean an actual Priest, this even includes the Schismatic heretics in the Eastern Rites. It does not apply to Anglicans who have no valid orders nor to Protestant preachers, Presbyterians or Lutherans no matter what they call themselves.

    Should you be in an emergency and have to seek say a Russian 'Orthodox' Priest, do not participate in their masses, they are sinful to attend, just request them to hear your confession.

    If noone is around and you are dying, a perfect act of contrition should suffice, make sure it is perfect.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 06, 2012, 11:42:35 AM »
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  • OP here. There's a misunderstanding. Where I'm considering going is no more likely to cause me to commit mortal sin than where I'm at. It's simply that, wherever I'm at, my past shows that I will commit mortal sin.

    Last poster, much of what you say seems reasonable.

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    Would this be sinful?
    « Reply #7 on: May 06, 2012, 12:56:02 PM »
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  • Well, don't forget -

    We bring ourselves where ever we go.


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    Would this be sinful?
    « Reply #8 on: May 07, 2012, 11:26:56 AM »
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  • Quote from: PereJoseph
    It is better to die the slowest and most painful death and let others endure the same, than to ever fall into mortal sin.  It would be better for the world to be destroyed than for one to commit a single venial sin.  Nothing justifies sin.  Ever.


    Is this true? What about "O felix culpa"?

    If it is better for the world to be destroyed than for someone to sin, why would the world have been created with the foreknowledge that sin would occur?

     :confused1:


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    Would this be sinful?
    « Reply #9 on: May 07, 2012, 03:02:23 PM »
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    What if, for work, I move to a part of the world in which it's unlikely that I'll be able to go to Mass? Would this move be sinful? And if I do move there, what about confession? I'm sure I'll get into mortal sin and be unable to find a priest.


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