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Would they also cheer the British National Party?
« on: May 20, 2014, 12:56:16 AM »
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  • TV images have shown Hindus in Britain celebrating the election win in India of the Hindu nationalist BJP (Bharatiya Janata Party). The BJP is to India what the BNP (British National Party) is to Britain. I wonder if these Hindu citizens/residents of Britain would also desire a BNP victory in the 2015 General Elections in Britain. If not, then pray, why not?


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    Would they also cheer the British National Party?
    « Reply #1 on: May 20, 2014, 01:17:18 AM »
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  • For the same reason that we would cheer a genuinely Catholic president. People are self interested.

    There is absolutely no prospect of the BNP winning any power.  Largely due to their own incompetence, fiscal mismangement and lack of any intelligent, politically astute candidates.

    Truth is that those dirty ignorant smelly Hindus are more united  and breeding faster than white English people.  The breeders inherit the earth.

    BNP were too stupid to see that.


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    Would they also cheer the British National Party?
    « Reply #2 on: May 20, 2014, 05:00:45 AM »
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    <There is absolutely no prospect of the BNP winning any power.  Largely due to their own incompetence, fiscal mismangement and lack of any intelligent, politically astute candidates.>

    Interesting. In India the "lack of any intelligent, politically astute candidates" was no hindrance at all to the BJP. Moreover, the major figure in the 2002 Gujarat riots, where upto 3000 Muslims lost their lives, is to become the new Prime MInister!

    <Truth is that those dirty ignorant smelly Hindus are more united  and breeding faster than white English people.  The breeders inherit the earth>.

    Birth rates are down even in India although perhaps not as low as in Europe. Yes, they are "more united". Much as they detest Christianity, they are the first to seek employment, careers and political positions in the (formerly Christian) West, and nobody can beat them at acquiring scholarships and freeships in Western universities, even though local nationals cannot obtain such. In the nineteen sixties I read comments in the American media that they were first in line for part-time jobs in  US university cafeterias, all their taboos about food notwithstanding.


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    Would they also cheer the British National Party?
    « Reply #3 on: May 20, 2014, 09:28:31 AM »
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    <There is absolutely no prospect of the BNP winning any power.  Largely due to their own incompetence, fiscal mismangement and lack of any intelligent, politically astute candidates.>

    Interesting. In India the "lack of any intelligent, politically astute candidates" was no hindrance at all to the BJP. Moreover, the major figure in the 2002 Gujarat riots, where upto 3000 Muslims lost their lives, is to become the new Prime MInister!

    <Truth is that those dirty ignorant smelly Hindus are more united  and breeding faster than white English people.  The breeders inherit the earth>.

    Birth rates are down even in India although perhaps not as low as in Europe. Yes, they are "more united". Much as they detest Christianity, they are the first to seek employment, careers and political positions in the (formerly Christian) West, and nobody can beat them at acquiring scholarships and freeships in Western universities, even though local nationals cannot obtain such. In the nineteen sixties I read comments in the American media that they were first in line for part-time jobs in  US university cafeterias, all their taboos about food notwithstanding.



    International students may only legally be allowed to work on campus, that could be one reason why you see more foreign students working in the cafeteria.

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    Would they also cheer the British National Party?
    « Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 04:21:59 AM »
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  • Why India's new Prime Minister may bring disaster to India

    http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/680698-why-indias-new-pm-may-bring-disaster-to-india/

    Narendra Modi and his party, the BJP, have won the Indian election by a unexpectedly massive margin – securing an outright majority. Congress and outgoing Prime Minister Manmohan Singh have conceded defeat and congratulated Modi.
    Given than the elections have been declared “free and fair”, does this apparent magnitude of popular support for Modi not suggest that the fears of people like me, who recently signed a letter expressing concern at this prospect, are unjustified?
    Modi appears to have been democratically elected. But, as his record in Gujarat indicates, he has exhibited a propensity to wield power in an undemocratic way and for undemocratic ends. Within his own party, he prevents emergence of independent leadership, making sure that potential rivals are politically finished. He encourages defections from other parties, rewarding defectors with party tickets, undermining the legitimacy of opposition.
    He undermines key constitutional bodies: whether agencies investigating the 2002 massacres or extra-judicial killings in Gujarat, or the Election Commission. He centralises power, once holding 14 portfolios in the state cabinet. He talks of “uprooting” opponents and “erasing” opposing political parties, and his supporters promise exile and incarceration to critics.
    The cult of personality around him likens him to Hindu gods: this militates against the principle of political equality at the basis of democracy. He does not open himself to any critical questioning, about the “Gujarat model” or about the massive finances spent by his campaign. Gujarat, which he holds up as a model of “good governance”, has the highest levels of violence against those seeking to use the “right to information” to find out about the activities of his government.
    Religious intolerance
    Despite claims that Gujarat’s Muslims are economically well-off and that there has been no major anti-Muslim conflagration there since 2002, opinion polls suggest that 80 to 90% of minorities – Muslims but also Christians and Sikhs – have voted against Modi. His actions against religious conversion and his militant opposition to Christian missionaries have caused him visa troubles in Europe and the US, who see him as a threat to religious freedoms.
    He “softened” his image since 2009 after the BJP lost badly in the general elections and it was felt within the BJP that this was because they were too closely identified with 2002 and the Hindu far right. After this point, Modi converted from Hindu warrior to “development” messiah. But recall that he was the head of the BJP in Surat when riots, with large-scale use of rapes, broke out there in 1992. As chief minister, he handed over control of events in 2002 to the far-right associates of the Vishwa Hindu Parishad and the Bajrang Dal. He never once visited victims of the riots.
    Modi’s speechs now talk of “India First”, but until recently they were peppered with taunts towards Muslims, notoriously: “Hum paanch, hamaare pachees” (We are five and we have 25 children – implying that Muslims plan to secretly create a Muslim majority in India, a staple of the Hindu far right).
    Modi did not spend central funds for scholarships for poor Muslim youth. Not one Muslim contested elections on his party’s ticket for the state legislature, despite being 10 to 15% of the population.
    In Gujarat today Muslims cannot buy or rent property in Hindu majority areas. Recently, Modi’s ex-associates in the Hindu far-right have called for forced eviction of Muslims from such neighbourhoods. Influential party operators have threatened to send his critics “to Pakistan”.
    To polarise Hindus for Modi, his right-hand man Amit Shah advised supporters to use the vote as a “revenge” against Muslims and the parties they support, and described Muslim-populated areas as “dens of terrorists”.

    Shah gave seats to those accused in the communal violence that broke out in UP before the elections. Modi never contradicted the anti-minority voices in his party. Indeed, in his speeches he often equated Hinduism with nationalism and Islam with terrorism and illegal migration. His ultimate dog whistle to his supporters was that, while he openly wore the headgear of every community in the country, he publicly refused the Muslim skull cap.
    Women’s rights
    Why be concerned about women’s rights when Modi has had the strong support of women in his state? Well, what he says on women’s issues is puzzling. Modi told the Wall Street Journal in 2012 that high malnutrition among Gujarat’s girls was because they were “figure-conscious”.
    He made political capital from the high levels of violence against women in Delhi. But video-recording of gang rapes and the circulation of the videos marked both the 1992 and 2002 riots in Gujarat when he held office. Maya Kodnani, now in prison for overseeing the evisceration of 96 people, including pregnant women, was his minister of women and children’s welfare: what murderous irony! His close associate, Babu Bajrangi of the Hindu far-right Bajrang Dal, admits impunity in “rescuing (kidnapping) Hindu girls in love with Muslim men and forcing them to renounce their romance under duress. That both figures are in jail is despite Modi’s efforts to protect them. His commitment to patriarchy are evident both in his abandonment of his wife without, as far as we know, any maintenance or other rights, and in the use of state intelligence agencies for surveillance of a young women on the behest of her father.
    The number of seats the BJP itself gets, and Modi’s incentives and ability to manage the far-right of his political base, will be key in determining how far these agendas will be pursued. That along with the vigilance and opposition of those who find their rights, lives and livelihoods under threat.
     
    Subir Sinha studied History at the University of Delhi (BA) and Political Science at Northwestern University (MS, PhD), and has taught at Northwestern University and the University of Vermont. His research interests are institutional change, sustainable development, social movements, state-society relations in development, and South Asian politics, with a current focus on decentralised development in India, early postcolonial planning, and on the global fishworkers’ movement. He does not work for, consult to, own shares in or receive funding from any company or organisation that would benefit from this article, and has no relevant affiliations. This article was originally published on The Conversation. Read the original article.
    Views expressed in this article are the opinions of the author(s) and do not necessarily reflect the views of Epoch Times.


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    Would they also cheer the British National Party?
    « Reply #5 on: May 22, 2014, 03:12:55 AM »
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  • In an age when a research interest in "the global fishworkers’ movement" will earn a man or woman a terminal academic degree, is it any wonder that such a fish out of (Catholic) water as Humble Frank Bergoglio gets to be elected pope?

    Self-parody seems to be a factor in everything about this thread.

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    Would they also cheer the British National Party?
    « Reply #6 on: May 22, 2014, 06:44:07 AM »
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    In an age when a research interest in "the global fishworkers’ movement" will earn a man or woman a terminal academic degree, is it any wonder that such a fish out of (Catholic) water as Humble Frank Bergoglio gets to be elected pope?

    Self-parody seems to be a factor in everything about this thread.



    Only lurkers from India's Rashtriya Shyamsevak Sangh would consider everything about this thread to be "self-parody". Pope Francis is not to Catholicism what beef burgers are to India.

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    Would they also cheer the British National Party?
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    Only lurkers from India's Rashtriya Shyamsevak Sangh would consider everything about this thread to be "self-parody".


    That's just what everyone at my parish is forever saying: "Beware of lurkers from India's Rashtriya Shyamsevak Sangh!" I hear that it's a big topic of dinnertime conversation in Reading, PA, too.


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    Only lurkers from India's Rashtriya Shyamsevak Sangh would consider everything about this thread to be "self-parody".


    That's just what everyone at my parish is forever saying: "Beware of lurkers from India's Rashtriya Shyamsevak Sangh!" I hear that it's a big topic of dinnertime conversation in Reading, PA, too.


    True on all counts. especially as a big dinnertime topic in Reading, PA amid shovelfuls of fenugreek. This latter horrid causes all that smell!