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Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
« on: May 05, 2023, 06:11:58 PM »
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    • I have an opportunity to work/volunteer in a diocesan school.  What are your thoughts on this?  Is this something a Traditional Catholic can really do when they do not even attend the local Novus Ordo church? Is it asking for trouble?  Is it an occasion of sin?  

    It seems like working in a Protestant school, but at least the Protestants don't call themselves Catholic, teach "Catholicism". and offer "mass". 

    I'm really struggling with this. 
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #1 on: May 05, 2023, 06:23:09 PM »
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    • What would be your job duties ?
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #2 on: May 05, 2023, 06:25:02 PM »
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    • It's not entirely clear yet, but I envision working with/supporting the students in the classroom.
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #3 on: May 05, 2023, 06:31:11 PM »
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    • Ask for a written statement of duties and tell them your conditions, e.g. I am unable to accompany the children to Mass and I will not teach Carechetics.
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #4 on: May 05, 2023, 08:54:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on May 05, 2023, 06:31:11 PM
    Ask for a written statement of duties and tell them your conditions, e.g. I am unable to accompany the children to Mass and I will not teach Carechetics.
    Teaching Catechism to novus ordo kids is actually a good opportunity. So many children in the novus ordo are deprived of quality catechesis and as a trad with the opportunity to educate kids in the NO, you have the opportunity to help them be well formed in their faith. If I had the opportunity I would gladly teach Catechism to novus ordo children. I would be sure to emphasize that one can't deny a single dogma and remain Catholic as well as the True Presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist + the consequences of sacrilegious confessions and Communions. You can also teach them about the importance of maintaining the faith. 
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #5 on: May 05, 2023, 10:09:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 05, 2023, 08:54:45 PM
    Teaching Catechism to novus ordo kids is actually a good opportunity. So many children in the novus ordo are deprived of quality catechesis and as a trad with the opportunity to educate kids in the NO, you have the opportunity to help them be well formed in their faith. If I had the opportunity I would gladly teach Catechism to novus ordo children. I would be sure to emphasize that one can't deny a single dogma and remain Catholic as well as the True Presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist + the consequences of sacrilegious confessions and Communions. You can also teach them about the importance of maintaining the faith.
    Of course the OP did not state the type of work, but that "I envision working with/supporting the students., which is a little vague.
    if it is teaching catechetics, it highly likely that there is an already established program, and set texts that would be expected to be followed. These are the sort that issues that have to be sorted by the OP, before taking on the challenge.
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #6 on: May 05, 2023, 10:49:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on May 05, 2023, 10:09:03 PM
    Of course the OP did not state the type of work, but that "I envision working with/supporting the students., which is a little vague.
    if it is teaching catechetics, it highly likely that there is an already established program, and set texts that would be expected to be followed. These are the sort that issues that have to be sorted by the OP, before taking on the challenge.
    If it is a classroom setting there should be more lenience. 
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #7 on: May 05, 2023, 11:10:20 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 05, 2023, 10:49:32 PM
    If it is a classroom setting there should be more lenience.
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #8 on: May 05, 2023, 11:28:35 PM »
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    If it is a classroom setting there should be more lenience. 
    You are being naive.
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #9 on: May 05, 2023, 11:33:30 PM »
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    • V2 schools want to teach V2 stuff.  If you want to teach Trad principles, then teach at a Trad school. 

    Anything else is an exercise in butting your head up against a wall, (and a waste of time) and you deserve all the problems that come with trying to teach something contrary to the purpose of the school. 

    Let the V2 people be V2 people; God will convert them, if it's His will.  Best to spend your time teaching Trads, if you can.  Your time will be better spent.
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #10 on: May 06, 2023, 06:52:06 AM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on May 05, 2023, 10:09:03 PM
    Of course the OP did not state the type of work, but that "I envision working with/supporting the students., which is a little vague.
    if it is teaching catechetics, it highly likely that there is an already established program, and set texts that would be expected to be followed. These are the sort that issues that have to be sorted by the OP, before taking on the challenge.
    Sorry for being vague as everything about the position is vague for me right now. My plan would be to help them in the classroom with the assignments, etc.  

    I went to the Open House last night, and I was able to meet people and check out some of the curriculum.  You are correct in that there will be set textbooks.  Although it's my understanding that there will be a separate "Religion class", I did not see a textbook for that.  However, it appears that "Christian Studies" is woven/taught throughout all of the academic subjects.  One subject will be Latin, surprisingly. 

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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #11 on: May 06, 2023, 06:54:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on May 05, 2023, 11:33:30 PM
    V2 schools want to teach V2 stuff.  If you want to teach Trad principles, then teach at a Trad school. 

    Anything else is an exercise in butting your head up against a wall, (and a waste of time) and you deserve all the problems that come with trying to teach something contrary to the purpose of the school. 

    Let the V2 people be V2 people; God will convert them, if it's His will.  Best to spend your time teaching Trads, if you can.  Your time will be better spent.
    That would be the perfect situation and I completely get your sentiment.  Unfortunately, that's not an option in my area.  
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #12 on: May 06, 2023, 08:22:35 AM »
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    • There's a difference between working (for pay) and volunteering. I would be wary about making this position a livelihood, as there's a good chance you'll be put in a situation where you can't participate in or do something they require of you. If you're volunteering and are up for trying to teach Catholicism and set a Catholic example, that is applaudable and doesn't look include the same risks as a paid position. 
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    Mind you, even if it's a paid position you could probably justify going in there. Just, I think it's always best to be realistic and assume eventually you'd be asked to leave. 
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #13 on: May 06, 2023, 08:52:13 AM »
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    • Working?  Do you need the pay?   Once they discover you’re “one of them,” rigid, divisive types who go to the Latin Mass, unless this diocese or parish is very unusual, they won’t hire you or accept you to volunteer.  If you conceal it and are found out, you’ll be fired or blacklisted.  There will come a point where you can’t do or agree to something.  The only exception may be if your job is janitorial, maintenance, groundskeeping, or security guard.
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    Re: Working/Volunteering in a Diocesan Catholic School
    « Reply #14 on: May 06, 2023, 01:48:41 PM »
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    • If you want to volunteer at a school, why not volunteer at a traditional Catholic school? There are so many that are desperate for teachers and staff.
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