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Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
« Reply #360 on: February 05, 2019, 08:56:00 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on February 05, 2019, 08:51:45 PM
    I'm thinking if a woman has to shave her face, maybe she'd better be seeking medical attention.

    :D
    It's actually not that unheard of. An imbalance of horomones, namely too much testosterone,  can end up plaguing a poor woman with unwanted facial hair. 
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #361 on: February 07, 2019, 02:37:37 AM »
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    • It's not a sin for women to wear some makeup.

    Excessive makeup is a sin when the motivation is to attract a man with an appearance that's radically or substantially different from her natural appearance; or the makeup is in such excess that it causes embarrassment to people within her own party or it makes her look like a whore.

    Women look better and are more attractive without makeup. The natural look is best and more youthful-looking. Ironically, aging women, who wear excessive makeup to conceal their age, end up looking like they're not aging gracefully. Defeats the purpose to wear so much makeup. They also look like clowns.
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    « Reply #362 on: February 07, 2019, 06:01:00 AM »
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    • Anyone got a pic of a saint wearing makeup?
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #363 on: February 07, 2019, 06:39:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on February 07, 2019, 06:01:00 AM
    Anyone got a pic of a saint wearing makeup?
    How many actual pictures are there of saints
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #364 on: February 07, 2019, 07:06:41 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on February 07, 2019, 06:39:39 AM
    How many actual pictures are there of saints
    Anyone read anything in a book by or about a saint wearing makeup?
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #365 on: February 07, 2019, 08:07:35 AM »
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    • Surely, if moderate makeup is ok, we will find numerous examples of it in the Lives of the Saints (and other such works by or about the saints).

    I have no doubt they used to put a little on to “feel good about themselves,” “catch a man,” “get ahead in the workplace,” or (the most bizarre excuse) “look good for other women (!).”

    It would be nice if some of the makeup’ers could provide some of those stories:

    “St. So-and-so would never be seen in public without her lipstick.  She knew this was charity: Our bodies are temples of the Hoky Ghost, and we must adorn it thusly, she said.  Sitting in front of her mirror, she contemplated how others would perceive her.  Her mirror, in a miracle, would often speak to her: ‘You will now be viewed favorably by others.  Go Forth!”
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    « Reply #366 on: February 07, 2019, 08:10:19 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on February 07, 2019, 08:07:35 AM
    Surely, if moderate makeup is ok, we will find numerous examples of it in the Lives of the Saints (and other such works by or about the saints).

    I have no doubt they used to put a little on to “feel good about themselves,” “catch a man,” “get ahead in the workplace,” or (the most bizarre excuse) “look good for other women (!).”

    It would be nice if some of the makeup’ers could provide some of those stories:

    “St. So-and-so would never be seen in public without her lipstick.  She knew this was charity: Our bodies are temples of the Hoky Ghost, and we must adorn it thusly, she said.  Sitting in front of her mirror, she contemplated how others would perceive her.  Her mirror, in a miracle, would often speak to her: ‘You will now be viewed favorably by others.  Go Forth!”
    Meant “Holy Ghost.”
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #367 on: February 07, 2019, 08:15:32 AM »
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    • Read this on a lady’s blog:

    “No custom, however prevalent, can trump the moral law.”

    The warning at Fatima about immoral fashions pops to mind, since at least in America, women did not generally wear makeup until the early 1920’s “flapper” movement of loose women began to popularize it.

    Just a few short years after Fatima.
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #368 on: February 07, 2019, 08:23:53 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on February 07, 2019, 08:15:32 AM
    The warning at Fatima about immoral fashions pops to mind, since at least in America, women did not generally wear makeup until the early 1920’s “flapper” movement of loose women began to popularize it.

    Yeah, but they wore excessive makeup that made them look like clowns, and they cut their hair very short (creeping feminism) like ugly idiots, and they began the disgusting habit of smoking cigarettes like the manipulated shiksas that were themselves, because they were told it's "sexy" and "liberating".

    Small, modest amounts of makeup is not a transgression against God. It's not prideful or an act of deception or revolt.
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #369 on: February 07, 2019, 08:26:35 AM »
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    • What I am looking for are accounts of the saints wearing light or moderate makeup, which, it has been argued here, is not a moral issue.

    If that is true, I would expect to find many such accounts.
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #370 on: February 07, 2019, 08:46:21 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on February 07, 2019, 08:26:35 AM
    What I am looking for are accounts of the saints wearing light or moderate makeup, which, it has been argued here, is not a moral issue.

    If that is true, I would expect to find many such accounts.
    I don't know of any off the top of my head but are there any royal saints of the English or French courts between the 1300's and 1800's?  They would have worn some powder, wig, or blush at some function at a minimum at this point in time.
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #371 on: February 07, 2019, 09:29:34 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on February 07, 2019, 08:26:35 AM
    What I am looking for are accounts of the saints wearing light or moderate makeup, which, it has been argued here, is not a moral issue.

    If that is true, I would expect to find many such accounts.

    People here are always confusing various ideals of perfection with things that are required under pain of sin.  Even if it's an ideal not to wear makeup, it doesn't mean it's sinful to do so.  Even if it's ideal to not use pain meds during childbirth, it's not a sin to do so.  Even if it's ideal to remain celibate our entire life, it's not a sin to get married.

    Vast majority of female saints were religious (until the V2 days of course), and so they wouldn't have worn makeup if for no other reason than that it would not have been allowed by their religious rule.
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #372 on: February 07, 2019, 09:35:39 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on February 07, 2019, 08:07:35 AM
    Surely, if moderate makeup is ok, we will find numerous examples of it in the Lives of the Saints (and other such works by or about the saints).

    Completely false argument -- see my previous post.  Even if one would argue that makeup is incompatible with perfection, this does not mean it's a sin.  Until Vatican II, you could practically count the number of married female saints with your fingers.  That doesn't mean that getting married is a sin.
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #373 on: February 07, 2019, 10:41:33 AM »
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    • Once again:

    If wearing makeup were merely an imperfection, rather than sin, wouldn’t one expect to read about its use in the lives of the saints (since it would not mitigate against sanctity)?

    Certainly this would be true.

    Can anyone provide such an account?
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    Re: Women Who Wear ANY Makeup Sin
    « Reply #374 on: February 07, 2019, 10:43:13 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on February 07, 2019, 10:41:33 AM
    Once again:

    If wearing makeup were merely an imperfection, rather than sin, wouldn’t one expect to read about its use in the lives of the saints (since it would not mitigate against sanctity)?

    ... false.  Imperfections do "count against" sanctity.  Saints are typically expected to have exercised "heroic virtue".
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