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Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
« Reply #165 on: Yesterday at 07:23:06 AM »
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  • Good question.  At this point, I don't know that any of us here can really help the OP.  At this point, when does complaining about your wife on the internet become a serious sin.  Although we want to help him, at some level it has become an anonymous gossiping session where we only get one side of the story.  This would be equally true if a wife were to do the same thing about her husband.

    There does seem to be an OCD issue here on the part of the wife, but I'm beginning to think there is also a much larger marital issue here.  Since the OP's wife is not open to meeting with a priest, the OP and his wife need to get professional help.  Stat.
    I disagree. I think that there is much the OP can do. The first thing is withdraw all affection for a while. Also do not let her behave like a mother towards you. Not by words, but by by your very presence.

    I typed "how to behave when your wife doesn't respect you" in you tube and there are lots of videos. I haven't looked at any but there must some useful advice there. 

    Russian men usually have their mother come in to "advise" the new wife. This is essential mother in law training as Russians know how childish Russian women can be. If you can't bring in your mother in law, then you will have to do this yourself. 

    The Taming of the Shrew by William Shakespeare has a wonderful final scene, which I hope will be your happy end https://ok.ru/video/8186296404686 

    Why not watch the film together? :)

    Just don't give up. Millions of men have been there but if your wife has a deep down good nature, this can really be fixed. 

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #166 on: Yesterday at 07:57:19 AM »
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  • Welp, I showed her a therapist we can see and now she says no. She says i just need to blah blah and everything will be fixed. She is in denial. She doesn't want to get help with our issues. I said fine, I'll go by myself and she is against that. She brings up excuses why I shouldn't go. She accuses me of being dirty like always and that I just need to respect her hard work cleaning and not make a mess. Well, guess who makes all the messes? It ain't me. I picked up the baby from the stroller at Church yesterday and later that evening she told me how I touched the baby with dirty hands. This is the insanity I have to deal with on a daily basis.


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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #167 on: Yesterday at 08:03:47 AM »
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  • I disagree. I think that there is much the OP can do. The first thing is withdraw all affection for a while. Also do not let her behave like a mother towards you. Not by words, but by by your very presence.

    I typed "how to behave when your wife doesn't respect you" in you tube and there are lots of videos. I haven't looked at any but there must some useful advice there.

    Russian men usually have their mother come in to "advise" the new wife. This is essential mother in law training as Russians know how childish Russian women can be. If you can't bring in your mother in law, then you will have to do this yourself.

    The Taming of the Shrew by William Shakespeare has a wonderful final scene, which I hope will be your happy end https://ok.ru/video/8186296404686

    Why not watch the film together? :)

    Just don't give up. Millions of men have been there but if your wife has a deep down good nature, this can really be fixed.
    Thanks for the suggestions. Problem is my mom comes from a different culture than hers and also, I'm not remotely anywhere near my mom to visit. 

    We'll try and watch the movie. Im just streaming right now having to deal with such a dishonest deceitful person and I married one.

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #168 on: Yesterday at 08:29:58 AM »
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  • Good question.  At this point, I don't know that any of us here can really help the OP.  At this point, when does complaining about your wife on the internet become a serious sin.  Although we want to help him, at some level it has become an anonymous gossiping session where we only get one side of the story.  This would be equally true if a wife were to do the same thing about her husband.

    There does seem to be an OCD issue here on the part of the wife, but I'm beginning to think there is also a much larger marital issue here.  Since the OP's wife is not open to meeting with a priest, the OP and his wife need to get professional help.  Stat.
    I have thought about it too, whether it is a sin to be anonymously complaining about my wife. If I was to go to a priest or shrink I would be doing something similar although in private, and not anonymously. Is posting complaints anonymously a sin? I'm here to find solutions. Yes, it comes off complaining and I am guilty of releasing some steam here, but I'm in a situation that has become intolerable. I'm living with someone who is ill and who is forcing their illness on me with the threats of separation if I do not participate in their illness. What would you do? Try to keep the peace and just go along with it? Even if it was only temporary. Maybe for a few months? Maybe it will pass over and get better? Or just get up and leave saying goodbye to your wife and newborn son? Or try to take the son with you and end up in some custody battle? It's not a good situation because she only sees me as the problem and doesn't want to get external help. Which to me is a major sign that she is deeply afraid so much so that she has no care in the world about my health. It's very toxic. 

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #169 on: Yesterday at 08:41:42 AM »
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  • Heard of baby brain? Scripture says Husbands should be Patient.

    Proverbs 15:1 – A soft answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger.

    1 Peter 3:7
    Husbands, in the same way be considerate as you live with your wives, and treat them with respect as the weaker partner and as heirs with you of the gracious gift of life, so that nothing will hinder your prayers.
    If it was the other way around, the husband stopped working and was a fat lazy slob, I'm sure the comments would rip him to shreds. Instead of diagnosing with him an issue like OCD or saying "oh maybe he's stressed". Baby brain doesn't cause a woman to be nasty. Like have some self-control. 


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    « Reply #170 on: Yesterday at 08:59:21 AM »
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  • Welp, I showed her a therapist we can see and now she says no. She says i just need to blah blah and everything will be fixed. She is in denial. She doesn't want to get help with our issues. I said fine, I'll go by myself and she is against that. She brings up excuses why I shouldn't go. She accuses me of being dirty like always and that I just need to respect her hard work cleaning and not make a mess. Well, guess who makes all the messes? It ain't me. I picked up the baby from the stroller at Church yesterday and later that evening she told me how I touched the baby with dirty hands. This is the insanity I have to deal with on a daily basis.
    At least get yourself to a priest and/or a therapist.  She can't stop you from doing that.  

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    « Reply #171 on: Yesterday at 09:01:29 AM »
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  • I have thought about it too, whether it is a sin to be anonymously complaining about my wife. If I was to go to a priest or shrink I would be doing something similar although in private, and not anonymously. Is posting complaints anonymously a sin? I'm here to find solutions. Yes, it comes off complaining and I am guilty of releasing some steam here, but I'm in a situation that has become intolerable. I'm living with someone who is ill and who is forcing their illness on me with the threats of separation if I do not participate in their illness. What would you do? Try to keep the peace and just go along with it? Even if it was only temporary. Maybe for a few months? Maybe it will pass over and get better? Or just get up and leave saying goodbye to your wife and newborn son? Or try to take the son with you and end up in some custody battle? It's not a good situation because she only sees me as the problem and doesn't want to get external help. Which to me is a major sign that she is deeply afraid so much so that she has no care in the world about my health. It's very toxic.
    It's not sinful to want to save the family. Far from it. My mother nagged my father until he snapped and left (he isn't catholic) and to to this day my mother still doesn't understand how destructive she was. Had he stood up to her rather than than just put up and shut up, their marriage may not have ended the way it did. I wish someone had told my father to man up and that he put up even the slightest fight. He never did. 
      
    Women are like children or animals or blacks. They live in eternal present.  It doesn't matter how docile you think your trad friends' wife is. At some stage she will have become irrational, annoying and potentially very destructive. It's women's nature, especially where no grace abounds.  Sometimes one wonders what they say in the confessional if its always someone else's fault. I cannot imagine the divine graces needed for a convent to function correctly.

    We never fail to notice in our chapels how in some families how worldly the girls are compared to to their brothers.  One glance at the non veiled mother is enough to understand why this happened.  

    I do not believe in therapy, you cannot use words with somone that doesn't reason. My parents went to therapy and all my mother tells me is that they always took my father's side. 

    It's going to be unpleasant initially when it dawns on her that you are the master of the home, the breadwinner and her protector, but it's your cross and Christ will help you carry it. It's still very much something you can win.

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    Re: Wife defrosts meat on the floor
    « Reply #172 on: Yesterday at 09:02:34 AM »
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  • It's going to be unpleasant initially when it dawns on her that you are the master of the home, the breadwinner and her protector, but it's your cross and Christ will help you carry it. It's still very much something you can win.
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    « Reply #173 on: Yesterday at 09:14:38 AM »
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  • I have thought about it too, whether it is a sin to be anonymously complaining about my wife. If I was to go to a priest or shrink I would be doing something similar although in private, and not anonymously. Is posting complaints anonymously a sin? I'm here to find solutions. Yes, it comes off complaining and I am guilty of releasing some steam here, but I'm in a situation that has become intolerable. I'm living with someone who is ill and who is forcing their illness on me with the threats of separation if I do not participate in their illness. What would you do? Try to keep the peace and just go along with it? Even if it was only temporary. Maybe for a few months? Maybe it will pass over and get better? Or just get up and leave saying goodbye to your wife and newborn son? Or try to take the son with you and end up in some custody battle? It's not a good situation because she only sees me as the problem and doesn't want to get external help. Which to me is a major sign that she is deeply afraid so much so that she has no care in the world about my health. It's very toxic.
    None of us here are qualified to give you "solutions" in these sorts of matters even though a number of posters seem to think that they are. Going to a priest or a shrink is different. 

     I have nothing but empathy for your situation, but that doesn't mean I can give you the proper help for your specific situation.  I can only try to push you to get help for yourself since she refuses to go with you. Oh, and :pray:.

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    « Reply #174 on: Yesterday at 09:27:30 AM »
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  • Just make sure she lays it on the floor gently and doesn't slap it down so hard than it flattens it any.

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  • Women are like children or animals or blacks. They live in eternal present.  It doesn't matter how docile you think your trad friends' wife is. At some stage she will have become irrational, annoying and potentially very destructive. It's women's nature, especially where no grace abounds.  Sometimes one wonders what they say in the confessional if its always someone else's fault. I cannot imagine the divine graces needed for a convent to function correctly.

    We never fail to notice in our chapels how in some families how worldly the girls are compared to to their brothers.  One glance at the non veiled mother is enough to understand why this happened. 
    Really?
    I’m sorry you were deprived of good role models, male and female.
    Kindly refrain from projecting your warped thinking onto others. 
    It’s regrettable you’ve never met any holy black Catholics. 
    Your comment about what sins women confess is offensive. 
    I cannot help but wonder where you hear Mass. If women are 
    improperly attired, unveiled, that reflects more on the priest, unless 
    maybe it’s a “conservative” novus ordo or indult. 
    Speaking with disdain about one’s parents without necessity is unbecoming.
    Are you even Catholic? 
    Charity is lacking. 


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    « Reply #176 on: Yesterday at 09:38:39 AM »
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  • It's not sinful to want to save the family. Far from it. My mother nagged my father until he snapped and left (he isn't catholic) and to to this day my mother still doesn't understand how destructive she was. Had he stood up to her rather than than just put up and shut up, their marriage may not have ended the way it did. I wish someone had told my father to man up and that he put up even the slightest fight. He never did.
     
    Women are like children or animals or blacks. They live in eternal present.  It doesn't matter how docile you think your trad friends' wife is. At some stage she will have become irrational, annoying and potentially very destructive. It's women's nature, especially where no grace abounds.  Sometimes one wonders what they say in the confessional if its always someone else's fault. I cannot imagine the divine graces needed for a convent to function correctly.

    We never fail to notice in our chapels how in some families how worldly the girls are compared to to their brothers.  One glance at the non veiled mother is enough to understand why this happened. 

    I do not believe in therapy, you cannot use words with somone that doesn't reason. My parents went to therapy and all my mother tells me is that they always took my father's side.

    It's going to be unpleasant initially when it dawns on her that you are the master of the home, the breadwinner and her protector, but it's your cross and Christ will help you carry it. It's still very much something you can win.
    Its a little more complex due to immigration laws. I gave in to her childish tantrums and she got her way and so now we are in her country while we wait for at least a year for her to get residence in my country.

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    « Reply #177 on: Yesterday at 09:41:46 AM »
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  • Really?
    I’m sorry you were deprived of good role models, male and female.
    Kindly refrain from projecting your warped thinking onto others.
    It’s regrettable you’ve never met any holy black Catholics.
    Your comment about what sins women confess is offensive.
    I cannot help but wonder where you hear Mass. If women are
    improperly attired, unveiled, that reflects more on the priest, unless
    maybe it’s a “conservative” novus ordo or indult.
    Speaking with disdain about one’s parents without necessity is unbecoming.
    Are you even Catholic?
    Charity is lacking. 
    You’re dismissing the point he was making. His father left because of his mother’s nagging. How many of us have grew up seeing this? A lot of unhappy marriages out there. 

    Comments like yours is why women can get away with not having accountability. They can cause their husbands to step out because of their behaviour and society will tell them that it’s the man’s fault. 

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    « Reply #178 on: Yesterday at 09:50:26 AM »
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  • If it was the other way around, the husband stopped working and was a fat lazy slob, I'm sure the comments would rip him to shreds. Instead of diagnosing with him an issue like OCD or saying "oh maybe he's stressed". Baby brain doesn't cause a woman to be nasty. Like have some self-control.
    Women love to blame their hormones for all manner of immature actions.

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  • I have thought about it too, whether it is a sin to be anonymously complaining about my wife. If I was to go to a priest or shrink I would be doing something similar although in private, and not anonymously. Is posting complaints anonymously a sin? I'm here to find solutions. Yes, it comes off complaining and I am guilty of releasing some steam here, but I'm in a situation that has become intolerable. I'm living with someone who is ill and who is forcing their illness on me with the threats of separation if I do not participate in their illness. What would you do? Try to keep the peace and just go along with it? Even if it was only temporary. Maybe for a few months? Maybe it will pass over and get better? Or just get up and leave saying goodbye to your wife and newborn son? Or try to take the son with you and end up in some custody battle? It's not a good situation because she only sees me as the problem and doesn't want to get external help. Which to me is a major sign that she is deeply afraid so much so that she has no care in the world about my health. It's very toxic.
    The anonymous forum is the perfect forum for this type of situation.  It's not sinful at all.  And it has nothing to do with gossip, as another poster said, because you can't gossip against anonymous persons.

    The devil is in overdrive to destroy families.  That's the last bastion of society that still reflects some catholic sanity.  Do you and your spouse pray the daily rosary together?  I honestly believe this needs to be a priority.  A non-negotiable.  You need Our Lady's help.  Your wife, especially, needs Our Lady.