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Änσnymσus

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Re: Why the Neo-SSPX position on the Crisis is untenable
« Reply #100 on: September 02, 2022, 09:35:42 AM »
So the Crisis can only end by human endeavor? I think not. We give ourselves too much credit, and not enough to God.
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Re: Why the Neo-SSPX position on the Crisis is untenable
« Reply #101 on: September 03, 2022, 03:12:08 AM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 02, 2022, 09:35:42 AM
So the Crisis can only end by human endeavor? I think not. We give ourselves too much credit, and not enough to God.
Where did you get that idea? I actually believe the Crisis will end with a magnificent divine intervention and God will have all the credit.
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Re: Why the Neo-SSPX position on the Crisis is untenable
« Reply #102 on: September 03, 2022, 10:50:06 AM »
Quote from: ServusInutilisDomini on September 03, 2022, 03:12:08 AM
Where did you get that idea? I actually believe the Crisis will end with a magnificent divine intervention and God will have all the credit.

Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems that you and other sedevacantists want all trads to be sedevacantists, so that the larger number would force the world (conciliar church, anyway) to accept that Francis is not the Pope. And if they accept that Francis is not the Pope, that could be a means to end the Crisis. Am I wrong? 
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Re: Why the Neo-SSPX position on the Crisis is untenable
« Reply #103 on: September 03, 2022, 02:27:00 PM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on September 03, 2022, 10:50:06 AM
Maybe I'm mistaken, but it seems that you and other sedevacantists want all trads to be sedevacantists, so that the larger number would force the world (conciliar church, anyway) to accept that Francis is not the Pope. And if they accept that Francis is not the Pope, that could be a means to end the Crisis. Am I wrong?

Meg, is that you?  :laugh1:  This notion that sedevacantists "want all trads to be sedevacantists" sounds like you.  Most sedevacantists realize that it will not happen, naturally speaking, that all Catholics will realize that these men have been imposters, and that this crisis will end without divine intervention.

Meanwhile, you have SSPX behaving as if having corrupt Modernist popes is the new normal and will not be solved even with divine intervention.

As for "wanting" all Trads to be SVs, only in the sense that R&R Trads are corrupting the faith by imputing a corruption of the Magisterium and Public worship to the Catholic Church, basically substituting Old Catholicism for Catholicism.
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Änσnymσus

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Re: Why the Neo-SSPX position on the Crisis is untenable
« Reply #104 on: September 04, 2022, 12:07:33 AM »
Quote from: Ladislaus on September 03, 2022, 02:27:00 PM
Meg, is that you?  :laugh1:  This notion that sedevacantists "want all trads to be sedevacantists" sounds like you.  Most sedevacantists realize that it will not happen, naturally speaking, that all Catholics will realize that these men have been imposters, and that this crisis will end without divine intervention.

Meanwhile, you have SSPX behaving as if having corrupt Modernist popes is the new normal and will not be solved even with divine intervention.

As for "wanting" all Trads to be SVs, only in the sense that R&R Trads are corrupting the faith by imputing a corruption of the Magisterium and Public worship to the Catholic Church, basically substituting Old Catholicism for Catholicism.

So you really don't want all trads to be sedevacantists? Or at least your brand of sedeism - sedeprivationism? That surprises me. 

I think that many sedevacantists are ever hopeful that all trads will unite and become sedevacantists - surely you are aware of this. And you are aware of the reasons why. So don't play dumb. 

Your latest criticism of R&R is now that it is basically Old Catholicism. You generally have many negative and often ridiculous things to say about R&R. But how many R&R have converted to sedeprivationism due to your efforts? Perhaps a few? 
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