Author Topic: Why is being pro-Hitler bad? (Read 11897 times)

Iuvenalis · « **Reply #5 on:** April 03, 2012, 01:40:57 AM »

And this is *exactly* the sort of thing I was concerned about.

Hitler was an occultist, and whatever you think of the number of people he killed, he definitely killed (or ordered it).

He was Godless, practiced the occult, was no friend of Catholicism, and a degenerate morally himself.

One need not drink great draughts of the mainstream koolaid to see this.

You need not adopt everything you were taught in school as gospel, but surely you can defend a more meritorious cause than Hitler.

clare · « **Reply #6 on:** April 03, 2012, 06:58:45 AM »

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Hitler vehemently opposed abortion, the nαzι's outlawed abortion in 1933 the first year they seized power. Under Hitler, choosing abortion became sabotage; a crime punishable by hard labor for the woman and a possible death penalty for the abortionist.

Didn't he only oppose the abortion of Aryan babies?

Whatever, he was hardly pro-life!

clare · « **Reply #7 on:** April 03, 2012, 07:07:16 AM »

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I believe Hitler was pro-fornication if it resulted in "fair-skinned German babies". To that end, I believe he actually had several "centers" where German men and women were brought in for this purpose.

If anyone could elaborate, I'd appreciate it. (Gladius?)

That fornication story is completely untrue. I think you are confusing it with what happened at Auschwitz.

Bl. Cardinal von Galen:

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The sixth commandment: “Thou shalt not commit adultery.” Think of the instructions and assurances on free sɛҳuąƖ intercourse and unmarried motherhood in the notorious Open Letter by Rudolf Hess, who has disappeared since, which was published in all the newspapers. And how much shameless and disreputable conduct of this kind do we read about and observe and experience in our city of Münster! To what shamelessness in dress have our young people been forced to get accustomed to — the preparation for future adultery! For modesty, the bulwark of chastity, is about to be destroyed.

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But even if the story is true, how was Hitler any eviler than the modern politicians who support abortion, contraception, ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity, Feminism, and Zionism? (All things which Hitler was against, by the way). Why is it ok to support Freemasonic politicians who support all those things, but not ok to support Hitler?

And why is it ok to oppose all those, and defend Hitler?

It is neither/nor. Only, in the case of Hitler, we at least ought to have the benefit of hindsight by now.

alaric · « **Reply #8 on:** April 03, 2012, 10:06:17 AM »

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Hitler vehemently opposed abortion, the nαzι's outlawed abortion in 1933 the first year they seized power. Under Hitler, choosing abortion became sabotage; a crime punishable by hard labor for the woman and a possible death penalty for the abortionist.

Didn't he only oppose the abortion of Aryan babies?

Whatever, he was hardly pro-life!

I'm not sure, maybe he was more concerned about German mothers or whatnot. The whole "Aryan" thing is very subjective and not really relevant their idea of "acceptable" infanticide.

NS Germany had their own ideas about about ending pregnancies or contraception usually to protect mentally ill or psychologically unfit women capable of procreation.

Unlike here where we don't discriminate and eliminate "fetuses" on a whim from the point of conception until hrs before the delivery.

We can have a whole discussion on another thread about nαzι policy towards abortion and contraception as opposed to the American one, especially in this day and age. I don't think you want to go there, for what this nation has descended into with abortion used as "birth control" and late term infanticide or it's feminists attitudes on women's "reproductive rights", I don't think we here in the "christian" West have the right to preach to any other civilization about being "pro-life".

While the NS might have been more interested in the propagation of reproducing more "Aryan" babies and all the glories and accolades of German motherhood and femininity the schizophrenic American version is becoming one of disease and destruction of the family as well as the poster child for what one pontiff has described as the Culture of Death.

clare · « **Reply #9 on:** April 03, 2012, 10:21:38 AM »

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We can have a whole discussion on another thread about nαzι policy towards abortion and contraception as opposed to the American one, especially in this day and age. I don't think you want to go there, for what this nation has descended into with abortion used as "birth control" and late term infanticide or it's feminists attitudes on women's "reproductive rights", I don't think we here in the "christian" West have the right to preach to any other civilization about being "pro-life".

Catholics do have a right to preach to our own and other civilisations. I am not denouncing nαzιsm from the point of view of the supposedly civilised west, but from the point of view of a pro-life Catholic. And I denounce the supposedly civilised west too. Just because we live here doesn't disqualify us from criticising!

Now, if we were actually supportive of this so called civilisation, then that would be different.

On the other hand, I don't think defenders of Hitler have the right to preach to our "civilisation".

Like I said, it's neither/nor.