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Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
« Reply #165 on: May 20, 2020, 11:36:40 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 20, 2020, 11:08:34 PM
    there are rules related to private property. In the case of trespass it is the property owner who makes the charge. It is the property owner who decides who is and who is not allowed on his property. It not up to the prosecutor to make that determination independent of the property owner.    

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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #166 on: May 21, 2020, 05:52:20 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 20, 2020, 11:33:56 PM
    Why are you lying when the video footage is available for all to see?
    That video showed him being assaulted an then when he acted in his own defense they shot him.  
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #167 on: May 21, 2020, 08:29:50 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 20, 2020, 11:08:34 PM
    there are rules related to private property. In the case of trespass it is the property owner who makes the charge. It is the property owner who decides who is and who is not allowed on his property.

    Someone has been watching too many television shows.  There are no such "rules related to private property" that allow a property owner to bring criminal charges for trespass.  For the third time, bringing criminal charges is at the entire discretion of the prosecutor; it does not ultimately rest with the property owner.  Anon/poche has thoroughly confused criminal and civil law. While a property owner may attempt to remove an individual from their property, sometimes even forcibly and/or with police assistance, and may even sue in civil court to do so (e.g., an eviction hearing), this has nothing to do with making criminal charges.    

    In the case of criminal trespass, it is the property owner who brings said trespass to the attention of the proper authorities.  It is then up the said authorities to act, including the bringing of criminal charges.


    Quote from: Anonymous on May 20, 2020, 11:08:34 PM
    It not up to the prosecutor to make that determination independent of the property owner.

    Never said that such decision was made entirely independent of the property owner.  I said the bringing of criminal charges is at the sole discretion of the prosecutor.  Obviously, though, if the property owner is not all that interested, and would possibly be a hostile witness, that would weigh heavily upon any decision to bring criminal charges.   
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #168 on: May 21, 2020, 08:44:49 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on May 21, 2020, 05:52:20 AM
    That video showed him being assaulted an then when he acted in his own defense they shot him.  

    The video showed someone "jogging" along the right-hand side of a road, approaching what appears to be a stopped vehicle in the middle of the road.  Then, both the jogger and the vehicle go out of the shot.  When they reappear again, the jogger is immediately seen crossing the road, in front of the vehicle, and lunging at an individual on the left-hand side of the vehicle, who heretofore had not been in the picture.  The jogger, who crossed from the right-hand side of the road and ran all the way across to the left side, lunges at this individual and a shot is heard. 

    Based solely upon what is seen in the video, I do not see where the jogger was assaulted.
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #169 on: May 21, 2020, 05:31:16 PM »
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    • Looks like another unfortunate jogger incident.

    Detroit police makes arrest after nursing home assault video surfaces

    Video available here (warning: video contains both graphic images and foul language): https://twitter.com/RealJamesWoods/status/1263565728386387968
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #170 on: May 21, 2020, 08:10:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bonaventure on May 21, 2020, 08:44:49 AM
    Based solely upon what is seen in the video, I do not see where the jogger was assaulted.

    Yeah sure, the jogger wasn't assaulted at all.  :facepalm: 
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #171 on: May 21, 2020, 10:08:02 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 21, 2020, 08:10:19 PM

    Yeah sure, the jogger wasn't assaulted at all.  :facepalm:

    Clearly Anon you do not know the legal definition of 'assault,' especially vis-à-vis a self-defense situation.  

    :facepalm:

    The still you show above is on the left-hand side of the road, but the jogger started on the right-hand side of the road. Pray tell, and again based on the video, how is one a victim of an assault if said victim attacks his attacker first?



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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #172 on: May 21, 2020, 10:12:30 PM »
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    • You do have a point there.
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #173 on: May 22, 2020, 12:07:24 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 21, 2020, 08:10:19 PM

    Yeah sure, the jogger wasn't assaulted at all.  :facepalm:

    This is what assault looks like:

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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #174 on: May 22, 2020, 12:10:44 AM »
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    • This has an analysis of the situation;

      

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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #175 on: May 22, 2020, 07:59:30 AM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 21, 2020, 11:47:00 PM
    In Georgia there are. It is called trespass notice. I call the police and have them serve you with a written notice whereby you will automatically be charged with criminal trespass if you return to the property within 5 years. This notice is instigated by the property owner, not the prosecutor.

    Highly doubtful that exists.  An internet search on "trespass notice" doesn't bring up anything.  Further, the scenario described lacks due process.  I'd suggest looking up the Georgia Statute on Criminal Trespass: § 16-7-21. Providing someone with notice may be required to bring charges, but the bringing of said charges is not automatic.

    Case in point:

    In Lewis v. Ritz Carlton, No. A11A0631, Mr. Lewis was a guest at the Ritz Carlton in Atlanta. He was staying in the Presidential Suite. He went to the bar, where he was loud, and according to the bartender who refused to serve him a second drink, intoxicated. He reportedly shouted racial epithets and other offensive comments, but that is disputed. The hotel manager was called to the bar, and she asked him to leave the bar. He went back to his suite. Later, the police, hotel security, and the manager went to the Presidential Suite. Only the police spoke to Lewis. The police told him to leave the hotel. He refused and was arrested. The solicitor declined to prosecute. 

    Quote from: Anonymous on May 21, 2020, 11:47:00 PM
    In the case of Mr. Aubery the property owner said that he had no interest in bringing criminal charges.

    Really?  And just how was the 'property owner' supposed to bring criminal charges against someone who is dead?  The subjective desire of the property owner is entirely irrelevant in this matter, but is no doubt added to the story for purposes of obtaining sympathy for the dead criminal trespasser.  Some critical thinking on the part of some would be helpful here.
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #176 on: May 22, 2020, 09:20:18 AM »
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    •  Black male orderly arrested after beating elderly white patients
    Posted: 21 May 2020 11:43 PM PDT


    DAILYKENN.com -- A black male who was video recorded beating numerous elderly white patients at a nursing home has been arrested. 


    According to reports, Jaydon Hayden is a trained boxer who video recorded himself punching the patients repeatedly until thy bled. Reports say he uploaded the videos to social media where they were widely circulated. 

    One report claims Hayden works at Walter P. Reuther Psychiatric Hospital.

    However, YouTube, 4chan, and redditt deleted the videos or otherwise rendered them unviewable, one source said.

    The videos are currently viewable on bitchute. com. 

    What's more, President Donald Trump took notice on Twitter, bypassing the far-left mainstream media censors. 

    "Is this even possible to believe?," he wrote. "Can this be for real? Where is this nursing home, how is the victim doing?"


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    Is this even possible to believe? Can this be for real? Where is this nursing home, how is the victim doing?
    — Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) May 22, 2020


    Conservative journalist Andy Ngo replied to Trump's post with a copy of one of the videos. 

    "It happened in Michigan," Ngo wrote. "Detroit Police have opened an investigation following an online outcry. The suspect has recorded other videos of him beating other elderly people." 


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    It happened in Michigan. Detroit Police have opened an investigation following an online outcry. The suspect has recorded other videos of him beating other elderly people. pic.twitter.com/m1rLlkXkzW
    — Andy Ngô (@MrAndyNgo) May 22, 2020


    According to thegatewaypudit.com ▼


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         Numerous disturbing videos were circulating social media showing a black Michigan man beating elderly white men and women in nursing homes.

        Jaydon Hayden is reportedly from Westland, Michigan and beat elderly white nursing home patients for sport.

        There are three videos right now on Bitchute showing the man beating white people.

        The man is filming himself beating the seniors in their beds until they are bleeding.

        Judicial Watch boss Tom Fitton said the watchdog group contacted authorities after he was alerted to the disturbing videos.

        “This was also posted on my Twitter feed and Judicial Watch contacted authorities who then, in response to our concern, arrested this person. Thanks to those who helped us get this done.” Tom Fitton said.
     Paul Kersey at unz.com wrote ▼

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    All across this nation, people know what is happening, but are so afraid of publicly admitting reality.

    We all know what would have happened if this were a white nursing home employee beating an elderly black man or black woman in a nursing home, so there’s no need to resort to talking about double standards.

    As we long ago pointed out here at SBPDL, there is only The Standard, a one way street for blaming not just white individuals, but all white people exclusively for racism and racial attacks.
    Such attacks are likely more common than is known. Most attackers simply aren't stupid enough to implicate themselves by video recording their attacks and uploading them to social media outlets. 

    Here's the foxnews.com report in which race is not mentioned. 




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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #177 on: May 22, 2020, 02:56:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on May 22, 2020, 12:07:24 AM
    This is what assault looks like:

    Agreed, poche.  The person the left is assaulting the person on the right.
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #178 on: May 22, 2020, 02:59:21 PM »
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    • Quote from: Bonaventure on May 22, 2020, 02:56:32 PM
    Agreed, poche.  The person the left is assaulting the person on the right.

    That post wasn't Poche. The reference to assault was meant to refer to an image of the black orderly beating the elderly white man. However, the picture has since disappeared from the post. Apologies for the confusion.
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #179 on: May 22, 2020, 03:04:20 PM »
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    • Two questions for Poche-

    The numerous incidents of blacks assaulting / killing whites cited above get but the barest fraction of coverage from the mainstream media, whilst the statistically far rarer cases of whites assaulting / killing blacks - especially incidents where self-defense is clearly at play i.e. Trayvon Martin; Ahmaud Arbery - are hyped and given a hugely disproportionate focus. Why do you suppose that is, Poche?

    Second: If Arbery had succeeded in disarming Travis McMichael and gunned him and his father down, would that have been justified in your eyes, Poche? 
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