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Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
« Reply #30 on: April 20, 2020, 02:23:13 AM »
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  • I believe in race realism and reject egalitarianism, but who cares if they aren't social distancing?  Social distancing is stupid anyways.

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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #31 on: April 20, 2020, 04:34:39 AM »
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  • Two thumbs up for the Boys in Blue enforcing law and order.
    Two thumbs down for the ...people... who think the laws don't apply to them.
    If you have a problem with the laws, take it up with the local, county, state, and federal authorities, as appropriate. This is a democracy, so all of these offices are elected positions, not hereditary or outside our control.

    What a terrible post. Since when is this anti-social distancing, a law??? This is rule by fiat, not law. The only people who should be quarantined are those who have been proven to have a disease. This whole thing was orchestrated to take away your liberties, make no mistake about it. Frankly, I’ve always advocated that in order for one to vote in this REPUBLIC, one must know the actual form of government we have and pass a civics test. Sorry, you failed miserably!
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #32 on: April 20, 2020, 06:32:10 AM »
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  • There hasn't been a single country that first received missionaries from among their own ethnicity. There isn't a single culture that can claim anything truly good without having Christ behind it in some way. It's clear now that God allowed certain pagan societies build up an amount of virtue that would eventually translate positively to Christian life once they converted (the Greeks), while others had to essentially start over (the Aztecs). Now that the majority of all former Christian nations have completely apostatized, we can't even rely on those natural graces those pre-Christian people used to enjoy. We are so astonishingly impoverished, that even now traditionalist Catholics are falling for the conceit that somehow DNA is the real difference. This is antichrist and it must stop.

    Satanic Black subculture is holding black people back from breaking out of their own identity politics, their welfare single mothers, their deadbeat dads, their desire to have what everyone else has. Not once have I heard of a black person wanting to receive the sacraments and being denied. It's not that they are too stupid to understand what is right or wrong, it's usually because they have set their sights so low as they refuse to look beyond the belt buckle, which in some cases is down around the ankles. They have allowed themselves to become obsessed with the power of godless men and women. They seem content to receive the minstrel role assigned to them by the father of Lies as long as they have access to pleasure. But as disadvantaged as that community may seem to be, what metrics have the "white" communities not followed them after a few years: divorce, cohabitation, abortion, contraception, children out of wedlock, witchcraft, promiscuity, whore-mongering, gold-digging, substance-abusing, drug-dealing, bad music, bad grades, violence, etc.? By the time we've prided ourselves in saying we're not as bad as they are, we've already lost the plot. It might be considered a blessing for them who never had a Catholic faith to fall from than for the rest of us who did. The prior faith of our ancestors may have afforded a small buffer to the chaos, but there's no denying our trajectory now. Our skin won't save us. Does it really matter if a welfare baby-momma is better or worse than a SJW SWF LGBT? A gang-banger thug opposed to a simpering soy boy? These aren't vocations from God.
      
    Spot on. The perfect answer.  Logged in just to give a thumbs up. 

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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #33 on: April 20, 2020, 07:08:12 AM »
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  • There hasn't been a single country that first received missionaries from among their own ethnicity. There isn't a single culture that can claim anything truly good without having Christ behind it in some way. It's clear now that God allowed certain pagan societies build up an amount of virtue that would eventually translate positively to Christian life once they converted (the Greeks), while others had to essentially start over (the Aztecs). Now that the majority of all former Christian nations have completely apostatized, we can't even rely on those natural graces those pre-Christian people used to enjoy. We are so astonishingly impoverished, that even now traditionalist Catholics are falling for the conceit that somehow DNA is the real difference. This is antichrist and it must stop.

    Satanic Black subculture is holding black people back from breaking out of their own identity politics, their welfare single mothers, their deadbeat dads, their desire to have what everyone else has. Not once have I heard of a black person wanting to receive the sacraments and being denied. It's not that they are too stupid to understand what is right or wrong, it's usually because they have set their sights so low as they refuse to look beyond the belt buckle, which in some cases is down around the ankles. They have allowed themselves to become obsessed with the power of godless men and women. They seem content to receive the minstrel role assigned to them by the father of Lies as long as they have access to pleasure. But as disadvantaged as that community may seem to be, what metrics have the "white" communities not followed them after a few years: divorce, cohabitation, abortion, contraception, children out of wedlock, witchcraft, promiscuity, whore-mongering, gold-digging, substance-abusing, drug-dealing, bad music, bad grades, violence, etc.? By the time we've prided ourselves in saying we're not as bad as they are, we've already lost the plot. It might be considered a blessing for them who never had a Catholic faith to fall from than for the rest of us who did. The prior faith of our ancestors may have afforded a small buffer to the chaos, but there's no denying our trajectory now. Our skin won't save us. Does it really matter if a welfare baby-momma is better or worse than a SJW SWF LGBT? A gang-banger thug opposed to a simpering soy boy? These aren't vocations from God.
      
    Yes, very good!
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #34 on: April 20, 2020, 09:21:30 AM »
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  • There hasn't been a single country that first received missionaries from among their own ethnicity. There isn't a single culture that can claim anything truly good without having Christ behind it in some way. It's clear now that God allowed certain pagan societies build up an amount of virtue that would eventually translate positively to Christian life once they converted (the Greeks), while others had to essentially start over (the Aztecs). Now that the majority of all former Christian nations have completely apostatized, we can't even rely on those natural graces those pre-Christian people used to enjoy. We are so astonishingly impoverished, that even now traditionalist Catholics are falling for the conceit that somehow DNA is the real difference. This is antichrist and it must stop.

    Satanic Black subculture is holding black people back from breaking out of their own identity politics, their welfare single mothers, their deadbeat dads, their desire to have what everyone else has. Not once have I heard of a black person wanting to receive the sacraments and being denied. It's not that they are too stupid to understand what is right or wrong, it's usually because they have set their sights so low as they refuse to look beyond the belt buckle, which in some cases is down around the ankles. They have allowed themselves to become obsessed with the power of godless men and women. They seem content to receive the minstrel role assigned to them by the father of Lies as long as they have access to pleasure. But as disadvantaged as that community may seem to be, what metrics have the "white" communities not followed them after a few years: divorce, cohabitation, abortion, contraception, children out of wedlock, witchcraft, promiscuity, whore-mongering, gold-digging, substance-abusing, drug-dealing, bad music, bad grades, violence, etc.? By the time we've prided ourselves in saying we're not as bad as they are, we've already lost the plot. It might be considered a blessing for them who never had a Catholic faith to fall from than for the rest of us who did. The prior faith of our ancestors may have afforded a small buffer to the chaos, but there's no denying our trajectory now. Our skin won't save us. Does it really matter if a welfare baby-momma is better or worse than a SJW SWF LGBT? A gang-banger thug opposed to a simpering soy boy? These aren't vocations from God.
      

    More histrionic straw-manning. Who ever said "DNA is the real difference?" What "real difference?" Who said "our skin will save us?"

    Do you believe God made the races absolutely identical in terms of physical strength, intelligence, temperament, etc.? 

    Do you not acknowledge that the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan seems to show an inordinate interest in promoting racial indifferentism, integration, intermarriage, etc. and always with the goal of eliminating European peoples? Wouldn't promotion of racially indifferent attitudes which benefit the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan's agenda be more deserving of being labelled "antichrist?"

    Why do you regard the term "identity politics" with the sneering contempt of a civic nationalist? How can politics be anything but identity-based in a multi-racial, multi-religious society?

    Anne Catherine Emmerich believed sub-Saharan Africans were subject to the Curse of Ham, thus their skin being marked as darker than what she called, "the lighter-skinned noble races." No Church authority ever censured her for this, let alone labelled her "antichrist." Why do you suppose that is?

    Grace builds upon nature, no? Grace does not transform nature. Catholic Haiti has, since throwing off her French masters more than two centuries ago, wavered between bare functionality and out-and-out savagery. European countries which have apostatized have not. Is that to say there has not been vice and sin in those European countries? Of course not. But they remain functional as societies where Haiti has not. Why? Grace builds on nature, but nature remains what it is. 

    Pope Paul III condemned the position that the savage races were dumb brutes incapable of receiving the Catholic faith. Pope Pius XII basically reiterated that in Mit Brennender Sorge, condemning exaltation of race "to idolatrous levels," which the former error condemned by Paul III would clearly seem to be. That's the extent of the Church's position on what moderns call "racism." Well, who here has said a single word contrary to those papal pronouncements? Rather, we seem to be repeatedly taken to task by racial indifferentists for affirming, like Pius XII himself did, that race is "a fundamental value of the human community... necessary and honorable (in its) function in worldly things."

    I would argue that what is "antichrist" is that traditional Catholics have - implicitly or explicitly - internalized the moral category of "Racism," which was defined not by the Church, but by Marxist Jews in the 20th Century. We all - Catholics included - had grandparents or great-grandparents whom the modern world would deem "racist." Racial indifferentism is the novelty here, not racial realism. Catholics were, if nothing else, always that on all subjects, including race - realists.






     


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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
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    "... Anne Catherine Emmerich believed sub-Saharan Africans were subject to the Curse of Ham, thus their skin being marked as darker than what she called, "the lighter-skinned noble races." No Church authority ever censured her for this, let alone labelled her "antichrist." Why do you suppose that is?"

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    An appropriate post to help clarify the muddy race waters BTNYC.
     
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #36 on: April 20, 2020, 01:46:41 PM »
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  • Blacks do seem to be burdened with a certain curse. They are childlike, petty, superficial. If they come into money, they blow it all on trinkets. In Africa, those trinkets include superstitious charms. They do things like buy expensive vegetables they don't even like, just so they can appear wealthier. They like to go into debt and spend all that they have to appear well off. Status is everything to them. They invented the phrase "make it rain" which means throwing money around to all and sundry. Related to this, if one black man becomes successful or above-average in wealth or income, he will be singled out and leeched off of by his friends, family and community until he re-joins the rest of the group. This is fundamental to blacks in Africa, not just the ones taken to America by Jews in slave ships a few centuries ago. These traits are the common weakness of all blacks, not just this or that group. It might be related to their lower IQ I don't know. They also seem unable to think about the future at all, much less invest money in it.

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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
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  • I believe Fr Ripperger has taught that nations can be cursed with national sins.  He said that Americans' national sin is greed.  Perhaps the Africans are likewise cursed.  Lust seems to follow idolotry.  American blacks are, generally speaking, overly concerned with status and appearance.  Even those determined to escape "poverty mind" are dedicated to scamming money from others rather than working for it, via drug dealing, human trafficking, "golddigging", and the pandemic formerly known as "hip hop".  A hard-working black man is a "simp" and a hard-working black woman is a "Bob the Builder".  Not flattering terms.


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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #38 on: April 20, 2020, 03:41:17 PM »
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  • Yes, very good!
    I misread part of the post that I liked above. I thought that Croixalist wrote that DNA was a factor, but he actually said this: “We are so astonishingly impoverished, that even now traditionalist Catholics are falling for the conceit that somehow DNA is the real difference. This is antichrist and it must stop.”

    Much of the other parts of the post are true, however I deserved the downvote! 
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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
    « Reply #39 on: April 20, 2020, 04:20:52 PM »
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  • Blacks do seem to be burdened with a certain curse. They are childlike, petty, superficial. If they come into money, they blow it all on trinkets. In Africa, those trinkets include superstitious charms. They do things like buy expensive vegetables they don't even like, just so they can appear wealthier. They like to go into debt and spend all that they have to appear well off. Status is everything to them. They invented the phrase "make it rain" which means throwing money around to all and sundry. Related to this, if one black man becomes successful or above-average in wealth or income, he will be singled out and leeched off of by his friends, family and community until he re-joins the rest of the group. This is fundamental to blacks in Africa, not just the ones taken to America by Jews in slave ships a few centuries ago. These traits are the common weakness of all blacks, not just this or that group. It might be related to their lower IQ I don't know. They also seem unable to think about the future at all, much less invest money in it.

    I concur with many of your observations.

    And, yet, as I have said before on this forum, and in spite of the dim view the racial egalitarians on the forum take to hard statistics on the huge gulf between Europeans and sub-Saharan Africans in measurable intelligence - I am of the belief that that very same childlike quality is, when allowed to flourish in the atmosphere of a properly ordered society, one of the very greatest assets of the negroid race.

    As I've said before, of the many, many atheists I've had the displeasure of meeting in my life not a single one was black. Greater intelligence comes at a terrible price: namely, an inclination toward pride and excessive trust in one's own strengths. Our Lord commanded us to be as little children. In the right environment, sub-Saharan Africans have shown a propensity for the most beautiful childlike faith in Christ. In a bad environment? That childlike quality turns into the petty, superficial childishness you note above.

    Every race has strengths and weaknesses. That's all the more reason to reject the rampant multiracialism and miscegenation pushed so heavily by the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan. The more racially  ethnically homogenous a society (or a family) is, the better it can understand its own particular problems and work to alleviate them. Not so for the chaotic hodge-podge of the "melting pots," where one isn't even allowed to recognize that we differ in our intellects, temperaments, strengths, and weaknesses.

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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
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  • The new stronghold of the Catholic faith IS Africa, after all, as Europe apostatizes. Even the once-Catholic strongholds have fallen.


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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
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  • The new stronghold of the Catholic faith IS Africa, after all, as Europe apostatizes. Even the once-Catholic strongholds have fallen.

    And yet if your own family - your spouse, or your mother, or your children, or your brothers - were to lose the faith, would you pack up and move in with the Joneses down the street, because they're a faithful family, and therefore the NEW stronghold of the Faith on the block? 

    Or do you redouble your efforts to bring your beloved kin back into the fold as a good shepherd ought?

    So with your family, so with your people. This isn't a question of "backing the winning horse."

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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
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  • The new stronghold of the Catholic faith IS Africa, after all, as Europe apostatizes. Even the once-Catholic strongholds have fallen.

    And, for what it's worth, let's paint a more accurate picture: There are places in the African continent where the Faith is flourishing, and that's wonderful.

    But Africa is still rife with Mohammedans, animists, pagans, witches, diabolists and all manner of immorality and savagery. It's nothing close to the shining beacon on a hill that Christendom - which is to say, Europe - once was not terribly long ago in the greater scheme of things. And even if the whole of Africa were to convert, it would not become the pinnacle of Catholic culture and learning that Europe was once and (let's not forget) may yet be again.

    Grace builds on nature. It does not transform it.

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    Re: Why cant Blacks follow rules?
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  • And, for what it's worth, let's paint a more accurate picture: There are places in the African continent where the Faith is flourishing, and that's wonderful.

    Faith flourishing? Where?

    Protestants and Modernists.

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  • And, for what it's worth, let's paint a more accurate picture: There are places in the African continent where the Faith is flourishing, and that's wonderful.

    You sound like Poche!


     

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