There are a lot of bitter and angry people congregating in this particular subsection of religion. Why is that? Where are the saints? Point me to where they are and I’ll join them. No, but seriously, the novus ordo are looking more attractive every day. I’m losing my faith more and more. Aren’t odd beliefs supposed to collect where the Holy Spirit is missing? Like with the protestants, that they divided and divided and become order and odder as the decades passed?

Where are the saints? Point me to where they are and I’ll join them. No, but seriously, the novus ordo are looking more attractive every day. I’m losing my faith more and more. 

Saints do not join groups of ‘saints’. You are looking for perfection in all the wrong places. Only God is Perfect. 
Your Faith is based on your relationship with Him, so losing it would have nothing to do with anyone else outside of it.  

Saints do not join groups of ‘saints’. You are looking for perfection in all the wrong places. Only God is Perfect.
Your Faith is based on your relationship with Him, so losing it would have nothing to do with anyone else outside of it.  

Well said.
You are expecting perfection in a fallen race damaged by Original Sin. Not gonna happen. Place your trust in God's goodness alone, and have patience with your fellow man -- especially those in the one True Faith.

Follow the example of Christ, when He was on this earth.  Was he not among the sinners and such?  Humility is needed.  We all need humility.

Well, the extraordinary Jєω-bashing, race bashing, women bashing, other catholic bashing etc etc. Do I have to spell it out? Just very mean stuff. I’m sure you’ve noticed.

Saints don’t join other saints, but it’s odd when nobody seems to be making an effort.

Yes, there are some very immature people on this site. Probably some are trolls who are not even Catholic, but who delight in giving Catholics a bad name. Matthew has banned a lot of people who have posted in this manner. Just wait.

A random poster may be trying very hard in his personal life - that is true. But, being atrocious on the internet is still suggestive of huge flaws in the personal life. And sins on the internet still count. 

It’s not an issue of whether I like the website or not. It’s an issue of whether traditional Catholics, as a whole, might have a big problem and what that means. 

I hope the basis of your perception is not based on Trad Catholic websites. These sites are a magnet for destructive anti-Catholic shills. Haven't you noticed how well-intended threads quickly deteriorate in bitterness, name-calling and hostility? Part of that is our fallen nature, but part of it is instigated by trouble makers.

A large % of the population has been conditioned/brainwashed to believe that anything which sounds "harsh" or "insensitive" is hateful.  The word 'hate' is misused in our day and age. 

A large % of the population is unable to look at facts objectively and when they hear criticisms or pessimism or negativity, they have been conditioned/brainwashed to interpret such comments as "unkind".  The word "kindness" is misused in our day and age.

Those who have corrupted the true meaning of "hate" and "kindness" are those revolutionaries and modernists who hate Christ and His Church (and society at large) and who use lies, emotion and sentimentality to bring about a change in people's thinking and eventually, society. 

Where did the "PC culture" come from?  Why is it pushed down our throats by the liberals?  What is its purpose?  It's purpose is to de-sensitize people to truth, which can be harsh and unforgiving.  It's purpose is to weaken human nature so that people use emotion to make decisions instead of reason and logic.  Which is easier to do - make quick, emotional, impulsive reactions based on 3-4 facts?  Or, to control one's emotions, research beyond the 3-4 facts to investigate possible agendas and circuмstantial connections and to "count to 10" before making a decision?  The former, using emotion and impatience, is obviously easier.  Much of society has been trained to react this way.

Looking at the liberal agenda over the last 6 decades, what are the common themes they use to water-down truth, to make truth seem harsh, to make people accept compromise?  The common themes are "love", "dialogue", and "tolerance".  These ideals, when not interpreted in a catholic sense, are purely from the devil.

Liberals:  We need to "love" ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs for "who they are" (i.e. tolerance) and have dialogue with them so we can better "understand" them.
God:  If any one lie with a man se with a woman, both have committed an abomination, let them be put to death: their blood be upon them. (Leviticus)


Here are quotes from Christ from Scripture.  Do these sound "unkind"?  According to our "modern" emotions, yes.  Are they actually unkind?  No, they are based on cold, hard reality.

-  Peace I leave with you; my peace I give to you. (John 14:27) But then in Matthew 10:14 we read: Do not think that I have come to bring peace upon the earth. I have come to bring not peace but the sword.

- In Matthew 8:21, an unnamed disciple says he wants to follow Jesus but first asks leave to go bury his father. Jesus responds: Follow me, and let the dead bury their dead.

-  Matthew, chapter 12: 31  Jesus says: Therefore, I say to you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven.

-  Matthew 5:29  If your right eye causes you to sin, tear it out and throw it away.

-  Luke  14How narrow is the gate, and strait is the way that leadeth to life: and few there are that find it!

- Not every one that saith to me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven: but he that doth the will of my Father who is in heaven, he shall enter into the kingdom of heaven.

The point is, that religion is serious business and the stakes are high (i.e. eternal salvation).  Most traditional catholics are very passionate about saving their souls, or else they wouldn't be traditional catholics in the first place.  Being traditional means you are TRYING to set yourself apart from the world, you have set yourself in opposition to its worldly spirit and you are fighting to save your soul.

In this day and age, this means a lot of suffering, a lot of turmoil, a lot of lost family/friends (who have decided they won't follow you and consider you weird).  In a word, if you are a traditional catholic, you are, by EVERY definition of the world "extreme".  Thus, this life, this calling, this religion attracts many (but not all) personalities that are extreme.  But, to be saints, we cannot stay extreme (except in matters of the Faith).  Personality wise, we must all sand our rough edges, make straight our crooked paths and fine tune what few virtues we have.  This takes a lifetime to do (if ever accomplished in this life).  But, this is one reason why Trads are considered "unkind"; because they're passionate about the Faith, and their personalities are usually also passionate (i.e. choloric, melancholic).  These temperments can seem to be harsh (from the outside) yet many times the motivation is not unkindness or hate but love of truth, principle and religion.