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Re: Why are some Republicans against new Healthcare bill?
« Reply #15 on: March 25, 2017, 01:30:49 PM »
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  • This is what I heard on a radio program on the so called replacement of Obamacare with Ryancare the main points
    of objections is:  If you were without health insurance for six months or more and if you decide to enroll in the
    new Ryancare you have to pay a lifetime penalty of 30%.  And illegal immigrants can still receive free medical care
    paid for by the taxpayers.
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    i heard on C-span (which people should watch as often as possible) the Dems saying that old people will have to (under that new plan) pay 5 times the premiums that young people pay!
    well, i do think older people should pay (or usually pay?) more than young people. that is just common sense. But 5 times more? that does not sound good. Of course, i disbelieved that bc it was said by Dems.. but more than one Dem made the accusation.
    i guess its possible maybe.. i don't know... about 5% of dems are not liars?
    hmmmm
    i guess its possible

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    Re: Why are some Republicans against new Healthcare bill?
    « Reply #16 on: March 27, 2017, 06:57:46 PM »
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  • Peℓσѕι...
    yeh, what kind of insurance do those in Congress have?
    last time i heard, they do not have to have o-care
    that's just for us worthless peasants... who worthless or not
    pay their freaking salaries


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    Re: Why are some Republicans against new Healthcare bill?
    « Reply #17 on: March 28, 2017, 06:30:10 PM »
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    Should health insurance be mandatory (over age 26)?
     
     
    I think everyone should be mandated to have insurance. I never thought I would say that,  just don't like the government mandating us to do things. But healthcare… well,  being healthy is everyone’s concern. I can’t  believe the premiums some people are paying, and paid even before there was Obamacare!
     
    People on entitlements usually get healthcare “free.” But they can pay something, even if it is only, say, 2% of their income.
     
    Here is why no one should get any substantial benefit like (basic) healthcare for free:
     
    For one thing, when you get something for free, you have virtually no say in the laws that govern that something... which is how it is-- when you depend on the government. From what I have seen, it is never good to be dependent on government. People on Disability got a few a “raises” when Obama was in office, not big ones, but I say that every govt program should be and definitely could be cut by something like 1 or 2% and instead, the person being assisted could use that cut in his/her check to by health insurance. Again, no one should get anything “free..” not that there is anything really free—
     
    They should have the choice of where to get healthcare, etc… but everyone should have some kind of basic plan, one that covers (mostly) catastrophic incidents.  Only people who have no income at all should have access to cost-free healthcare. But of course, someone has to pay for that, which is where Medicaid comes in?
     
    Anyone with an income, even if it is not much, should  pay for a health insurance that covers essential health care.
     
    Those who pay, say, 40% of their income on rent or more could have some kind of exemption (Medicaid?).. 
     
    Bottom  line: healthcare  needs to be affordable... If those on entitlements  paid something like 2% of their income for healthcare, others who make a lot of money could pay, say, 4% or whatever… there could be brackets, just like in the tax code, based on income.
     
    With everyone paying into the healthcare system, the premiums would go down. Then it would be affordable and not just for a few—as is the case under O-care.
     
    At first, I resisted this mandate idea because on the face of it, it tends to look like the govt forces you to buy something. But we are not talking about just any old thing being purchased. Everyone should be responsible for his own health, to the extent possible.
     
    I hate to pick on the poor (so many others do that so well), but I know some poor people who get this and that entitlement, and they are fat and probably unhealthy. I know one (know of one, that is) who seems to drink the biggest from-the-fountain  pop he can get, and drinks those, apparently every day. These people can spend  money on health insurance. Two percent of their income is not much. I think that if everyone paid insurance, low income people would spend  less for healthcare every month than what they spend on a 32-oz of pop every day. With them not being in the insurance pools, they are  causing the middle class  to have to pay far too much for health care.
     
    Tell me where I am wrong..
     


     

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    Re: Why are some Republicans against new Healthcare bill?
    « Reply #18 on: March 30, 2017, 09:11:55 PM »
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