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« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2014, 10:51:41 PM »
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    I hate to say it but I rather keep the "enemy" in sight literally under my own roof than leave the kids in the mercy of him and his pagan family without my pressence and my careful and watchful eye, even for a few hours


    true unselfish motherly love.

    If you have then decided to stay with him, kill him with kindness. Give and give and give unselfishly, with good humor and gentleness.  It may or may not move him to be better, but you will be happier.  And Our Lord will be so pleased with your charity and good example to your children.  Think like a Catholic at all times, don't give in to worldly thinking of pouting, silent treatment, revenge, ignoring.  
    Not that you would do these things, I'm just refering to how most women act in these situations.  

    In other words, detach from his reaction  to your behavior.  Just be the good person you are, and continue to include him in your goodness, for the sake of your children and your soul.

    And God bless you, sweet soul.


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    « Reply #16 on: May 11, 2014, 11:26:34 PM »
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    « Reply #17 on: May 12, 2014, 11:41:32 AM »
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    If this is a woman, have you read Fascinating Womanhood?

    If you're not a woman, would you consider giving her (your spouse) the book Fascinating Womanhood?

    It seriously saved my marriage, and I'm not ashamed to say so. Things have been going well for almost 10 years of our 16+ year marriage. I only wished I'd read it sooner.


    Parents for truth!  

    That is the most wonderful book!  I think every woman should read it without exception!  Im sure if our poster here would read it and work a little, she would not only save her marriage, but maybe her husband would convert as well!   Thanks so much for the suggestion!

    Here is the link to the book on Amazon
     http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_ss_i_0_21/181-7425665-6359255?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=fascinating%20womanhood&sprefix=fascinating+womanhood%2Cstripbooks%2C501&rh=i%3Astripbooks%2Ck%3Afascinating%20womanhood&tag=httpwwwchanco-20


    Even if it was written by a mormon, don't shoot the messenger. It's such an excellent read. I chucked it into the wall a few times, lamenting my ignorance. I really saw how many feminist tendencies and ideas I had by reading that book, and have done my best to correct them. I only wish I'd read it 7 years earlier than I did. It was sitting on my bookshelf for that long before I became desperate enough to pick it up.

    Please do read it, if you haven't. It is very much worth your time and effort.
    Matthew 5:37

    But let your speech be yea, yea: no, no: and that which is over and above these, is of evil.

    My Avatar is Fr. Hector Bolduc. He was a faithful parish priest in De Pere, WI,

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    « Reply #18 on: May 12, 2014, 12:55:59 PM »
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  • Separation should truly be the last resort.  I know how hard marriage can be.  I've been married nearly 24 years and it's had plenty of difficult times.  But the alternative is no better and likely much worse.  We don't know all the details of your marriage ... but God will help you to honor your marriage vows.  With Him all things are possible and while you may feel trapped in a prison of emotional pain right now, know that there is hope and that He will help you with everything.  

    I've read FW several times over the last 15 years ... and while it's not perfect, and not Catholic...the gist of what the author is saying, is true.  Mostly it's just Christian charity and pointing out that emphasizing feminine attributes is very effective in bringing a sweetness into the marriage relationship.  Some things the author says are kind of silly and seem manipulative ... but if you can ever have a sense of humor about it, it could inject some fun back into the marriage.  It's very possible.

    Please have hope, pray and increase reception of the Sacraments if possible.  

    God Bless you.

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    « Reply #19 on: May 13, 2014, 04:42:31 PM »
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  • Can someone explain how is it that the more one try to "convert" the spouse, the more he/she rebels against it? even though, one does it in all charity.

    My spouse has shown such bad will against the Faith that we cannot longer share anything.

    I can honestly say that it was only until I reverted in all seriousness to the Faith that my marital problems began.

    Spouse took it very badly and now it has become a major power struggle. A win/lost situation. It is a matter of pride and stubborness now although it's me who changed (by the grace of God).

    How can you live with a neo-pagan heretic under the same roof? Spouse does not believe because he/she DOES NOT WANT to believe. To have a sense of real responsibility and commitment before God seems unbearable for my spouse.


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    « Reply #20 on: May 13, 2014, 05:36:30 PM »
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  • The way I did it (convert spouse) was not to actively try.  It took over 10 years, but it happened and I saw it  slowly unfold.  I just quietly set a Catholic example of a holy Catholic life, as best I could considering how flawed I am.  

    First, those of the world are proud, so don't challenge or argue with the spouse, it makes them dig in more and makes it harder for them to convert.  They don't want to admit you are right.  Classic husband - wife drama.

    Second, just be a good Catholic.  Go to Mass, say your prayers before meals, say your rosary, be kind at all times, especially to your spouse!   No matter how angry he/she makes you, always be kind.  Always.   No matter what they say or  how hurt or angry you get, be kind. Offer your suffering, and move to the spouse, giving them a hug and say I love you.  

    Some examples of what I did
    1.  Going to Mass .  The day before, making plans for Sunday or a holyday,  "I'll be attending 8am Mass, would you like to come with me?  "   When it was "no", I just said, ok I'll be home around XXXX and we can have a nice breakfast together.  How would you like to enjoy the rest of the day?  What would you like for dinner?"  
    I never criticized or preached.  When spouse was receptive (read the mood first!) I'd say "I pray you and I can someday share our Faith the same way" but I'd always smile and warmly hug / kiss too.   I NEVER scolded or provided an opportunity for a stubborn position out of pride.  The best way to conquer prideful reactions is with an abundance of love and good sense of humor.
    2.  Prayer before/after meals.  When spouse does not participate, I'd quietly say "excuse me just one minute" then I'd offer the prayer, bless myself, and resume our meal conversation.  
    3.  The same with rosary... before spouse conversion, we watched tv.  (now we do not).  I'd excuse myself very quietly "Honey, I'll be back in about  xxxx minutes - I want to offer a < rosary or devotion> for our family.  Can I bring you <a cup of tea> when I return?"
    4.  Weave in trad Catholic teaching whenever you can, but not as a catechism instruction unless specifically asked.  My spouse started to ask direct questions, and that's when I would also be direct.  Otherwise, it must be casual comments.  Perhaps when discussing politics.  Or when you are not sure about a situation say "I must look into what the Church teaches about that".  Spouse learns by this that you subject yourself first and foremost to Christ.
    5.  Always be matter of fact, not contentious.  And if your spouse is a man, be as sweet as possible, and always maintain a great sense of humor.  If he is in a bad mood, just be supportive and a little playful, funny then give him space.  

    Spouse must see that your faith is priority, and you integrate it into your everyday life while still loving him/her.  Your Catholic life becomes the family culture.  Never attack or accuse or even fight back, it does not work with most people.  

    In the end, your salvation is what is most important.  Set the example and pray and never ever give up hope.  The suffering you endure now can be offered for your spouse's conversion, so every time you feel hurt or sad about it, offer it for your spouse.  God has entrusted this person to your goodness and example.  


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    « Reply #21 on: May 13, 2014, 05:46:42 PM »
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    The way I did it (convert spouse) was not to actively try.  It took over 10 years, but it happened and I saw it  slowly unfold.  I just quietly set a Catholic example of a holy Catholic life, as best I could considering how flawed I am.  

    First, those of the world are proud, so don't challenge or argue with the spouse, it makes them dig in more and makes it harder for them to convert.  They don't want to admit you are right.  Classic husband - wife drama.

    Second, just be a good Catholic.  Go to Mass, say your prayers before meals, say your rosary, be kind at all times, especially to your spouse!   No matter how angry he/she makes you, always be kind.  Always.   No matter what they say or  how hurt or angry you get, be kind. Offer your suffering, and move to the spouse, giving them a hug and say I love you.  

    Some examples of what I did
    1.  Going to Mass .  The day before, making plans for Sunday or a holyday,  "I'll be attending 8am Mass, would you like to come with me?  "   When it was "no", I just said, ok I'll be home around XXXX and we can have a nice breakfast together.  How would you like to enjoy the rest of the day?  What would you like for dinner?"  
    I never criticized or preached.  When spouse was receptive (read the mood first!) I'd say "I pray you and I can someday share our Faith the same way" but I'd always smile and warmly hug / kiss too.   I NEVER scolded or provided an opportunity for a stubborn position out of pride.  The best way to conquer prideful reactions is with an abundance of love and good sense of humor.
    2.  Prayer before/after meals.  When spouse does not participate, I'd quietly say "excuse me just one minute" then I'd offer the prayer, bless myself, and resume our meal conversation.  
    3.  The same with rosary... before spouse conversion, we watched tv.  (now we do not).  I'd excuse myself very quietly "Honey, I'll be back in about  xxxx minutes - I want to offer a < rosary or devotion> for our family.  Can I bring you <a cup of tea> when I return?"
    4.  Weave in trad Catholic teaching whenever you can, but not as a catechism instruction unless specifically asked.  My spouse started to ask direct questions, and that's when I would also be direct.  Otherwise, it must be casual comments.  Perhaps when discussing politics.  Or when you are not sure about a situation say "I must look into what the Church teaches about that".  Spouse learns by this that you subject yourself first and foremost to Christ.
    5.  Always be matter of fact, not contentious.  And if your spouse is a man, be as sweet as possible, and always maintain a great sense of humor.  If he is in a bad mood, just be supportive and a little playful, funny then give him space.  

    Spouse must see that your faith is priority, and you integrate it into your everyday life while still loving him/her.  Your Catholic life becomes the family culture.  Never attack or accuse or even fight back, it does not work with most people.  

    In the end, your salvation is what is most important.  Set the example and pray and never ever give up hope.  The suffering you endure now can be offered for your spouse's conversion, so every time you feel hurt or sad about it, offer it for your spouse.  God has entrusted this person to your goodness and example.  



    Whoever you are, thank you for these encouraging words!