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Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
« Reply #15 on: November 01, 2020, 02:12:47 PM »
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  • I would bet my money that there is no priest and not many trad groups that have converted more people than the Dimond's at the MHFM. Think about it.
    Even if that's true that wouldn't mean that they're fully orthodox.


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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #16 on: November 01, 2020, 05:09:19 PM »
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  • The CMRI doesn't have a "program", that is, if you're thinking a standardized system.  If you see a CMRI priest about converting, you will get personal instruction from the priest.  He would use a standard catechism, probably the Baltimore Catechism.  When you demonstrate knowledge and understanding of the faith to the priest's satisfaction and you have the desire for baptism, he will baptize you as necessary.

    Any trad group that has a standardized "program" should be avoided.  I was rather surprised to hear that it sounds like some groups have a "program".  We're not, after all, the Conciliar sect with lay-woman Betty running the parish RCIA program when she's not being a eucharistic minister.


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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #17 on: November 01, 2020, 05:10:08 PM »
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  • Last post was by TKGS.  I didn't realize it was in anonymous forum.

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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #18 on: November 01, 2020, 05:15:32 PM »
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  • Even if that's true that wouldn't mean that they're fully orthodox.
    One is either converted or they are not. If one is not fully orthodox it is because they are not converted, they are not seeking truth. Anyone that sincerely seeks truth will find it, and discern the errors of even the best teachers. Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom, and few today have it today. If the Dimond's are good at teaching one thing it is fear of God.
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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #19 on: November 01, 2020, 05:23:57 PM »
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  • The CMRI doesn't have a "program", that is, if you're thinking a standardized system.  If you see a CMRI priest about converting, you will get personal instruction from the priest.  He would use a standard catechism, probably the Baltimore Catechism.  When you demonstrate knowledge and understanding of the faith to the priest's satisfaction and you have the desire for baptism, he will baptize you as necessary.

    Any trad group that has a standardized "program" should be avoided.  I was rather surprised to hear that it sounds like some groups have a "program".  We're not, after all, the Conciliar sect with lay-woman Betty running the parish RCIA program when she's not being a eucharistic minister.
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    I'm not sure that any trad group actually has a convert program (so if that is what the OP is looking for specifically, I think he/she will be left empty-handed).
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)


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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #20 on: November 01, 2020, 09:38:54 PM »
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  • Any trad group that has a standardized "program" should be avoided.  I was rather surprised to hear that it sounds like some groups have a "program".  We're not, after all, the Conciliar sect with lay-woman Betty running the parish RCIA program when she's not being a eucharistic minister.
    I did not know that, thanks. I guess that means there aren't many converts to traditionalist Catholicism?

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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #21 on: November 01, 2020, 10:49:31 PM »
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  • The Catholic convert program is simply meeting with the priest and taking catechism classes.  It’s not rocket science.  

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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #22 on: November 01, 2020, 10:52:32 PM »
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  • The Conciliar Church has to make a big deal about their amazing program because they do little else in the way of instructing people in the Faith.  Take a few classes, read a few pamphlets, get baptized and you’re good to go for the rest of your life!


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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #23 on: November 01, 2020, 11:50:55 PM »
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  • Pre-Vatican 2, there was not such a thing as a program. 

    A person who was interested in learning about the Catholic Faith would approach a priest, who would arrange to instruct him individually. This instruction would be individually tailored to the needs of the individual. And when the neophyte knew enough to accept and be baptised, he would baptise him.
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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #24 on: November 02, 2020, 01:49:12 AM »
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  • Pre-Vatican 2, there was not such a thing as a program.

    A person who was interested in learning about the Catholic Faith would approach a priest, who would arrange to instruct him individually. This instruction would be individually tailored to the needs of the individual. And when the neophyte knew enough to accept and be baptised, he would baptise him.
    Good to know, thanks.

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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #25 on: November 02, 2020, 04:54:28 AM »
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  • I am new to the Catholic faith and I would like to convert (to include getting the sacraments). I am a sede but I don't have a problem attending a TLM at non-sede place. Within a 150 miles radius, I have FSSP, SSPX, CMRI, SSPV, and "independent" options. Which one, in your opinion, has the BEST program for converting people to the faith? Thanks for your time.
    You say you are sede and want to convert, but will go to a non-sede TLM? Already, that in itself is at least a strange situation and bespeaks of confusion. Certainly there is a certain amount of confusion associated with conversion, this is infact often the reason to seek conversion in the first place - to replace confusion with truth. If you're sincere, there is no doubt that you will find someone to help you along. When you find someone to teach you the true faith, I suggest you be prepared to find out that the sedeism belief is not found anywhere within the truth you seek.  












       
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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #26 on: November 02, 2020, 06:29:10 AM »
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  • I did not know that, thanks. I guess that means there aren't many converts to traditionalist Catholicism?
    There aren't a great deal of converts, but it isn't because there isn't a program.  Before Vatican 2, all converts were instructed by the parish priests before being received inton the Church and there were many conversions before the Conciliar sect started actively discouraging conversions.

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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #27 on: November 02, 2020, 06:30:31 AM »
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  • They don't have "programs" in traditional circles because the salvation of people's souls is the goal--not the process.

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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #28 on: November 02, 2020, 03:05:12 PM »
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  • You say you are sede and want to convert, but will go to a non-sede TLM? Already, that in itself is at least a strange situation and bespeaks of confusion. Certainly there is a certain amount of confusion associated with conversion, this is infact often the reason to seek conversion in the first place - to replace confusion with truth. If you're sincere, there is no doubt that you will find someone to help you along. When you find someone to teach you the true faith, I suggest you be prepared to find out that the sedeism belief is not found anywhere within the truth you seek.  













    Of course there is confusion. That's the nature of the crisis. I would go to a non-sede TLM. If you doubt sedevacantism, you really need to read this web site and watch the video on this link: https://novusordowatch.org/2020/10/why-would-anybody-be-a-sedevacantist.

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    Re: Which trad group has the best program for converts?
    « Reply #29 on: November 02, 2020, 04:25:01 PM »
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  • Which one, in your opinion, has the BEST program for converting people to the faith? Thanks for your time.
    What benefits are you seeking in a program?  I'm a convert so I may be able to answer your questions better than a cradle Catholic simply because I have experienced the "programs".