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Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
« on: October 11, 2022, 05:25:10 PM »
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  • This blog is critical of this book. http://pistrinaliturgica.blogspot.com/2010/06/caucus-race-and-long-tale.html

    Would you say that the book's faults are minor?
    Is there an alternative book?

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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #1 on: October 11, 2022, 05:26:45 PM »
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  • This blog is critical of this book. http://pistrinaliturgica.blogspot.com/2010/06/caucus-race-and-long-tale.html

    Would you say that the book's faults are minor?
    Is there an alternative book?
    I trust nothing fr. Fr. Cekada 


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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #2 on: October 11, 2022, 05:33:29 PM »
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  • Is post #2 written by the same person that posted #1? 🤨

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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #3 on: October 11, 2022, 05:51:17 PM »
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  • Is post #2 written by the same person that posted #1? 🤨
    This is poster #2.  I did not write post #1.

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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #4 on: October 11, 2022, 06:09:33 PM »
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  • This blog is critical of this book. http://pistrinaliturgica.blogspot.com/2010/06/caucus-race-and-long-tale.html

    Would you say that the book's faults are minor?
    Is there an alternative book?
    The author(s) of pistrina liturgica have an axe to grind with +Dolan, Cekada, +Sanborn, and pretty much everyone in traddieland. They have demonstrated such repeatedly on CathInfo.

    As for WoHH, I think that it's worth reading; can't claim it's perfection, but it's pretty good.


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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #5 on: October 11, 2022, 08:52:34 PM »
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  • It's worth reading. The only real flaw is his persistence in rejecting the Holy Week changes even though they were approved by a legitimate Pope.

    Questioning the Validity by Omlor is also worth reading (and much shorter).
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #6 on: October 11, 2022, 09:30:29 PM »
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  • This blog is critical of this book. http://pistrinaliturgica.blogspot.com/2010/06/caucus-race-and-long-tale.html

    Would you say that the book's faults are minor?
    Is there an alternative book?
    Great book and set up for a study. 

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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #7 on: October 11, 2022, 11:02:27 PM »
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  • The author(s) of pistrina liturgica have an axe to grind with +Dolan, Cekada, +Sanborn, and pretty much everyone in traddieland. They have demonstrated such repeatedly on CathInfo.

    As for WoHH, I think that it's worth reading; can't claim it's perfection, but it's pretty good.
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    Indeed. If you want to accept what the Pistrina blog has to say, I'd just recommend spending some quality time (?) reading through the various posts over the eight years or so of its activity. It'll gradually dawn on you that the author is ... shall we say ... missing a few squirrels in his park.

    The author of that blog showed up on here about a year or two ago under the handle of "Boca della Verita" or something along those lines, and didn't last long before Matthew banned him for insulting Bp. Williamson, I believe by calling him "Mr. Williamson" or something like that.


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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #8 on: October 12, 2022, 01:07:47 PM »
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  • From the cited link - "...Fr. Cekada’s stagnant pool of misinformation."

    The book is over 400 pages long, written in a tiny font, and has several hundred citations.  I know of no other book that goes into as much depth on 'the Bastard Mass' but if someone does then let me know.  'stagnant pool...' ???  Buwahahahahahahaha  Prepare yourself for a meat grinder.  

    The Holy Week changes were approved by Pius XII but I got from reading it that Fr. Cekada's 'beef' was that all the changes, they started in 1948, were primarily the work of Freemason Annibale Bugnini.  When the New Mass was unleashed in 1969, it already had twenty years of transformation cooked into the mix.


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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #9 on: October 12, 2022, 03:45:39 PM »
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  • The author of that blog showed up on here about a year or two ago under the handle of "Boca della Verita" or something along those lines, and didn't last long before Matthew banned him for insulting Bp. Williamson, I believe by calling him "Mr. Williamson" or something like that.
    Ah yes, Boca...I fondly remember his pretentiously verbose, strangely-formatted posts given in the third person. He definitely crossed a line there.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #10 on: October 12, 2022, 04:36:43 PM »
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  • Ah yes, Boca...I fondly remember his pretentiously verbose, strangely-formatted posts given in the third person. He definitely crossed a line there.
    For some reason "Boca Grande" sticks in my mind.


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    Re: Is Fr. Cekada's Work of Human Hands worth reading?
    « Reply #11 on: October 12, 2022, 08:34:33 PM »
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  • Yes. It's one of the best analyses of the Novus Ordo out there. You can read it here.
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