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When are lies Mortal sins?
« on: February 02, 2013, 08:46:01 PM »
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  • I told a lie in order to get a much a needed repair done. I had mentioned it more than once,  didn't want to nag. So I told a fib that made it seem more urgent, and it was taken care of quickly with little trouble. Venial or Mortal?

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    When are lies Mortal sins?
    « Reply #1 on: February 02, 2013, 09:08:01 PM »
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  • I would think venial, but you should really talk to a priest.  


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    When are lies Mortal sins?
    « Reply #2 on: February 02, 2013, 09:36:37 PM »
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    I told a lie in order to get a much a needed repair done. I had mentioned it more than once,  didn't want to nag. So I told a fib that made it seem more urgent, and it was taken care of quickly with little trouble. Venial or Mortal?



    You need to educate yourself on the subject of venial and mortal sin.

    You need to learn the principles involved so that you are not wondering about each and every sin.

    Catechism books explain it all very well

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    When are lies Mortal sins?
    « Reply #3 on: February 02, 2013, 09:38:02 PM »
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    When are lies Mortal sins?
    « Reply #4 on: February 03, 2013, 07:58:39 AM »
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  • You have more than "a" venial sin, the one of pride. To commit venial and be proud of it, leads you very easy to mortal.  Pride is the sin you harbor.  Pride will take you easily into mortal and hell.


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    When are lies Mortal sins?
    « Reply #5 on: February 03, 2013, 08:14:07 AM »
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  • Who is talking to whom?

    Who is being called proud, and why?

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    When are lies Mortal sins?
    « Reply #6 on: February 03, 2013, 08:30:48 AM »
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    That is not important. A "lying tongue" is "an abomination unto [the Lord]". All of it is vicious and evil. Satan is "the father of lies".

    Surely there was a way to accomplish this without lying. Do I understand you were paying for a service? If that was the case, you could have threatened to take your business somewhere else if they didn't hurry up.

    This is one of the problems of a nonconfrontational personality, resorting to lying.

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    When are lies Mortal sins?
    « Reply #7 on: February 03, 2013, 09:03:32 AM »
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    Venial or Mortal?


    That is not important.


    You can't say it's not important.

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    A "lying tongue" is "an abomination unto [the Lord]". All of it is vicious and evil. Satan is "the father of lies".


    Yes, there is a lot of presumption about lying in this society, especially among women.


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    When are lies Mortal sins?
    « Reply #8 on: February 03, 2013, 11:46:56 AM »
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  • The answer to this question is somewhat obscure, some of the church fathers thought that lying may be done if it is not in malice (AKA, to lie would save another man's life is fine). Saint Augustine held that lying was always wrong, and I think St. Thomas did as well. Plato thought that it was ok for doctors to lie to patients about their condition if it would promote the time it takes for them to get better (via Placebo affect). Here's an article on the moral dilemmas concerning that of lying:

    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09469a.htm

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    When are lies Mortal sins?
    « Reply #9 on: February 03, 2013, 03:32:20 PM »
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  • Since the OP is obviously very concerned about this, the best advice is that you should just bring it to confession.  That way your conscience will be a peace.
    My conscience compels me to make this disclaimer lest God judges me partly culpable for the errors and heresy promoted on this forum... For the record I support neither Sedevacantism or the SSPX.  I do not define myself as either a traditionalist or Novus


     

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