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Whats wrong with FSSP Masses?
« on: February 06, 2015, 01:28:06 PM »
What’s the problem with FSSP Masses?  I can't figure it out.
I only attend traditional Masses. Over the years I’ve attended independent, CMRI, SSPX and FSSP chapels.  All the Masses were done properly and just about identically.  I've observed FSSP priests in 4 different geographical locations.  They are as faithful to the Mass and tradition as any of the others. Same hardline sermons, good solid confessors, etc.  I don’t understand why they are dismissed, like they don't even exist.
Is it the so called questionable ordinations?  I thought there was a thread here that debunked that.  
If so, how are their Masses not traditional enough?
They can't be red lighted, since their structure and Mass is identical to SSPX, right?
Are they unfairly smeared due to their association with Rome?
I wish they didn't use 62 rubrics, but the SSPX do also and both still incorporate earlier rubrics like 2 confiteors.

Thanks for your input.  

**I prefer to post anonymously due to flamers. I'm steeled for sedevacantist sarcasm in response to my question even though I've assisted at CMRI Masses in the past but now concerned about jurisdiction.



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Whats wrong with FSSP Masses?
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2015, 01:30:28 PM »
There is nothing with wrong with the FSSP Masses. They are still valid and there are many orthodox, conservative priests there.


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Whats wrong with FSSP Masses?
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2015, 01:43:31 PM »
The FSSP is a compromised institution; that is the problem.

Over time, you and your family will come to get more comfortable with Vatican II. It will slowly cease to be the horrible monster THAT IT ACTUALLY IS.

You will certainly come to forget that the Church is in a horrible Crisis. After all, if you can have your Latin Mass every Sunday with the permission of Rome, what's all the fuss about? Those "Traditionalists" -- what's their problem?

The fact is that Vatican II and its aftermath has caused the greatest loss of souls since the Protestant Revolt in the 1500's -- possibly worse. I don't think we can criticize or hate Vatican II enough.

Yes, the FSSP has a valid Mass, assuming the ordinations of the priests are valid (that's not exactly a non-issue, but it's a topic for another post). I would only go there if I had *no* other options.

Jurisdiction is not an issue. The Church supplies jurisdiction for the needs of the Faithful, including the sacraments of confession and matrimony.

But many people -- mostly those who aren't deep thinkers -- forget or don't realize that ideas are powerful, and have practical results. Ideas (including doctrine) ARE important. Doctrine is of paramount importance.

Just look around at the congregation at an Indult chapel and tell me if the people aren't more liberal.

Americans especially tend to be anti-intellectual, focusing on the practical and pragmatic to the point they completely despise doctrine and the world of ideas, as if they were of no consequence.

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Whats wrong with FSSP Masses?
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2015, 01:46:26 PM »
OP, you are not alone.

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Whats wrong with FSSP Masses?
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2015, 01:47:57 PM »
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 Church supplies jurisdiction for the needs of the Faithful, including the sacraments of confession and matrimony


Well my friend who went from SSPX to FSSP told me they would not recognize her marriage as valid. Those were very bad news for her. I'm not sure what she had to do but still, it is a process.