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Whats wrong with FSSP Masses?
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2015, 02:36:40 PM »
The problem isn't with the "Mass" of the FSSP, per se, but with the doubtful ordination of the priest, the Modernist orientation of the priest, and the support of the Conciliar church that your donations would feed.

Though a sedevacantist, I cannot bring myself to absolutely condemn the 1962 Missal though I believe that a traditional priest should use one of the prior Missals (and I absolutely reject any dogmatism on which one!).

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« Reply #11 on: February 06, 2015, 02:48:03 PM »
All good responses.  
Where I'm at the SSPX chapel is closer than the FSSP parish, but the SSPX priest is a little less hardline.  Isn't that odd?  He sticks to the Gospel for sermons and he will discuss the crisis of SSPX and Rome if you bring it up privately, but it's never in the sermon.
The FSSP pastor hammers on the Pope just about every Sunday. He's very black and white about doctrine. He told me he despises ambiguity and he has to keep the flock from succuмbing to modernist creep.  So now we go there most of the time.
I did notice more modernism at the FSSP parish in San Diego, but not in the clergy, and not at their other locations that I've visited.  It dawned on me a short time ago that if I was blindfolded and brought to an FSSP Mass or devotion and told it was SSPX, I wouldn't know the difference.
I expected a lot of defense of Rome stuff from them, but they are not into papalotry, just the opposite.  So I admit that I had several preconceived notions about them and was disabused of it pretty quickly.      

Someone brought up going from SSPX to FSSP.  They say one must make a general confession due to doubtful authority of independent traditional priests and if married by SSPX it's "healed at the root" (I forget the latin) and blessed, something like that.  Which goes to jurisdiction which seems to be a matter of interpretation after a year of really intense research.  Cathinfo helped a lot and pointed me to other sources in my investigations, so thanks for that.
Is it correct that epikeia does not seem to apply any longer for the SSPX since they seek regularization from Rome?  And now all the others just seem schismatic in one way or another.  Epikeia used to be my justification.

One thing for sure, it should not be this complicated for a baptized Catholic to know the right thing to do and save his soul.  One false move and down the elevator shaft! :heretic:



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Whats wrong with FSSP Masses?
« Reply #12 on: February 06, 2015, 02:53:38 PM »
FSSP IS of the New Order.  That is all that needs to be said.  Ordination were changed decades ago.  No consecration can take place.

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« Reply #13 on: February 06, 2015, 03:06:16 PM »
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One thing for sure, it should not be this complicated for a baptized Catholic to know the right thing to do and save his soul.  One false move and down the elevator shaft! :heretic:


That's evidence for why you're wrong.

One false move and you're NOT down the elevator shaft (into Hell). God is good. He wouldn't do that to anyone.

Epikeia is the legal principle where the true intent of the lawgiver can be assumed, if he were alive today.

You suggest that just because the SSPX has compromised, we no longer have any options? Give me a break. That's what the Resistance is for. If the SSPX had epikeia before, wouldn't the Resistance have it now?

And yes, there is one place to beware of because of schismatic/cult tendencies -- the Pfeiffer branch of the Resistance. But he is NOT the whole Resistance, not even if you restrict the discussion to the United States.

Whats wrong with FSSP Masses?
« Reply #14 on: February 06, 2015, 04:12:55 PM »
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Over time, you and your family will come to get more comfortable with Vatican II. It will slowly cease to be the horrible monster THAT IT ACTUALLY IS.

You will certainly come to forget that the Church is in a horrible Crisis. After all, if you can have your Latin Mass every Sunday with the permission of Rome, what's all the fuss about? Those "Traditionalists" -- what's their problem?


I must disagree.  Me and mine have attended FSSP for five years or more.  The problems stemming from Vatican II are more apparent than ever for us.  Pope Francis, in fact, has only served as an accelerant for just how aware the wife and I are to Modernist creep.