What say you?

I work near a novus ordo convent.

Even though I am repulsed by the novus ordo and view Vatican II as an act similar in intent to Satan's refusal to serve God, is it appropriate for me to swing on by this convent for private prayers and devotions?  I won't worship their cookee, of course, but kneeling before a statue is an option.

What say you?

Or should I avoid this convent as if it were Fr. Bozo and his clown mass doing the liturgical dance?

The novus ordo nuns are not like the invalid novus ordo priests.  And even though they are vested by heretics like Cardinal Mahony and his ilk, they have still professed a love of Christ and Our Lady.    

I don't see anything wrong with praying in a Novus Ordo Church or in this case a convent, as long as you don't take part in any Novus Ordo ceremonies.

Holy Church teaches us that we are to avoid both near occasions of sin AND the possibility of causing scandal.

You would not Cross yourself upon entering a Prot building because the Real Presence is not there. Ditto for a former Church that is now occupied by heretics. Therefore,  you shouldn't go into such a place because exposing yourself to their errors opens up the possibility of being deceived. Never forget that the Devil is after your soul.

Further, someone could see you entering such a place and could assume that you agree with the teachings of Newchurch and/or that they themselves should go in and 'fellowship' with heretics. We must guard against the chance that our unspoken example might lead others to sin.

Believe me, I understand your frustration. My maternal grandmother (who lived and died a traditional Catholic) was a parishioner at one of the most beautiful churches I have personally ever seen. I LOVE the artwork, the statuary and the High Altar, which still stands entirely intact behind the Newchurch picnic table. The tabernacle is still in the center of the Altar, the candle-stands are still in use... simply a gorgeous place.

It breaks my heart to know that a false Prot-Masonic/Jєω-heretic service is offered where the Holy Sacrifice used to ascend to God for the salvation of souls. That means I have to avoid a place not only full of fond personal memories, but a place designed for God's glory that has been hijacked by His sworn enemies.

St. Anthony of Padua, hammer of heretics, terror of Hell, pray for us.

Our Lady of Ostrabrama, pray for us.

Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

Are these nuns in a recognizable habit?

Those who counsel not to enter this Church are absolutely correct.  The Novus Ordo church is closer to the Lutherans than to Catholics.  Do not enter it, nor pray inside.  If you feel moved to do so, pray the Rosary just off the property, but not on the property.

The SSPX priest at my chapel recently went on a pilgrimage to Quito and he went into many beautiful Novus Ordo Churches and said the Latin Mass in some of them. Do you think he sinned in entering these Novus Ordo Churches in which the true Mass used to be offered before the Novus Ordo?

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Those who counsel not to enter this Church are absolutely correct.  The Novus Ordo church is closer to the Lutherans than to Catholics.  Do not enter it, nor pray inside.  If you feel moved to do so, pray the Rosary just off the property, but not on the property.

The SSPX priest at my chapel recently went on a pilgrimage to Quito and he went into many beautiful Novus Ordo Churches and said the Latin Mass in some of them. Do you think he sinned in entering these Novus Ordo Churches in which the true Mass used to be offered before the Novus Ordo?

Will he enter and say Mass in an Anglican church in England where the "true Mass used to be offered before" the Book of Common Prayer?

If not, why not?

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Quote from: TKGS

Those who counsel not to enter this Church are absolutely correct.  The Novus Ordo church is closer to the Lutherans than to Catholics.  Do not enter it, nor pray inside.  If you feel moved to do so, pray the Rosary just off the property, but not on the property.

The SSPX priest at my chapel recently went on a pilgrimage to Quito and he went into many beautiful Novus Ordo Churches and said the Latin Mass in some of them. Do you think he sinned in entering these Novus Ordo Churches in which the true Mass used to be offered before the Novus Ordo?

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Thank you, bless you!  The love of Our Lord vs. dogmatic SV mentality !

I didn't know the OP was a priest trying to say mass in the convent.  

Did recusants refuse to pray in Catholic churches occupied by anglicans when there were no services going on?

I don't know.  Do you?  Please provide references if you do.  Once the Recusants figured out that the Anglican services were actually invalid, something tells me that they did not.

I remember reading an account of a wealthy lady who was arrested on the charge of being a Catholic.  Queen Elizabeth offered her a way to escape execution.  All she had to do to allow herself to be seen walking through a particular church.  She had to walk in one door and leave through another door.  She didn't have to stop and pray, kneel, or anything else; just allow herself to be seen walking through.  She refused to do so and was martyred.  I wish I could remember her name.  Perhaps someone knows?