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What is the primary reason that you are less active, or no longer active, on CathInfo?

Would like to be more active but no longer have the time due to external factors unrelated to CI.
8 (26.7%)
Think/feel that the forum dynamics have become unhealthy overall and will/would resume participation if/when things change. Please share thoughts on necessary changes.
8 (26.7%)
Primarily as a protest to a specific policy or member. Please share.
2 (6.7%)
Think/feel that continued participation, or participation to the degree formerly practiced, is counterproductive for me at this time.
7 (23.3%)
Other. Please share.
5 (16.7%)

Total Members Voted: 28

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    I've been holding off on answering this thread.  Not because I don't have many things I could say regarding why I am no longer active, but mostly because I wonder whether it matters/will matter to even say them.  It has been apparent for quite some time that nothing will change here.

    I will just say that I agree with the poster above that this thread is a good example of at least some of the issues with this forum.


    "nothing will change here"
    "issues with this forum"

    Can you be more specific? Let's get to the heart of the matter. What is FUNDAMENTALLY wrong with this forum? I've asked myself this question countless times whenever people like you throw out criticism like this (deserved or undeserved). Just to be safe, you know?

    And you know what I came up with? The best I can come up with is: FALLEN HUMAN NATURE. Original Sin.

    Every large group of people has issues, because it has human beings. Human beings have fallen human nature (Original Sin). They commit sins. They have a darkened intellect, so they get things wrong, they don't see things clearly, they are prone to error. Their logic, reason, intellect does NOT work perfectly. They are proud, they lie, they manipulate, they argue, they fight, they belittle, they are attached to their opinions out of pride. They are loathe to ever consider that they might have been wrong about something for years. They are quick to dish out "justice" to others. They enjoy feeling superior to their neighbor. They love -- or need -- to be on the right side, the winning side, or both.

    The alternative is "Oh no, those aren't real issues at all. I know lots of large forums the size of CathInfo that have none of these problems. The problem is Matthew, who sets the tone for the forum with his leadership: his beliefs, worldview, moderation style, position on the Crisis, etc."

    To which I would call BS. That is simply not true, not reality.

    It's true that a leader plays a real role and has a real effect on whatever he leads. Whether it's a club, a forum, a chapel, a state, or a country. The leader is a huge part of what each forum IS. He decides who gets banned, who gets to stay, what topics are encouraged, what topics are forbidden, etc. His overall attitude (towards the world, for example) is obviously going to be more welcome than the contrary. If he were a solid Traditional Catholic, he would tend to prefer such members, and worldly/bad Catholics would start out on automatic "probation". Likewise, if the leader were worldly, a bad Catholic, divorced/remarried, etc. then that would flavor the forum as well, basically preferring liberals and only tolerating the serious Catholics. Such a forum might use terms like "Toxic Trads" and "Rad Trads" often, and these terms would be encouraged from the top down. See: Fisheaters.

    Last but not least, the "issues with this forum" are never the same from year to year. I wish I had a dollar for every member who left whose reason for leaving is no longer valid. I'd be able to buy myself something very nice. I have the perspective of someone who's been here for the whole 19 years of CathInfo's history, remember.

    "CathInfo has become SedeInfo"
    "CathInfo has become FlatEarthInfo"
    "CathInfo has become FeeneyInfo"
    "CathInfo has become TrumpInfo"
    "CathInfo has become TelesphorusInfo"
    "CathInfo has become PocheInfo"
    "CathInfo has become CroixInfo"

    How can it be all of these things at the same time? That doesn't even make sense. How about it's NONE of them -- just CathInfo, a group of hundreds of members, all serious and devout Catholics, whose favorite topic changes from week to week and month to month. If you don't like the weather, just wait an hour.
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  • The best posters in CathInfo history:

    1) Croix de Fer - one reason, among many, the guy literally warned of a plandemic for years leading up to Covid; but other posts were great, too, especially on the jews and Catholic literature contributions
    2) Syracuse
    3) St. Frumentius
    4) Judith 15 Ten
    5) Freddy Jooger
    6) WhiteWorkinClassScapegoat
    Isn't 6 just Criox?


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  • As a newer member I don't have too much to post but I am still quite active. I guess Cathinfo users need to work on personal sanctity and not use webforums as an excuse to backslide (I am guilty of this).

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  • I might know who you are, but have you thought about maybe some of the things he calls you are true like you being a feminist and boomer? I notice a lot of trad women on this forum act like this and aren't called out that often. Should this forum be geared towards the feelings of women?
    I think there are a few women on this forum who spend too much time here rather than creating somethings for theirs families use.

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  • You use feminist and boomer like bad words and you justify it because you think it is true.  If you know that these words will trigger someone to behave poorly, should you use them?  Are you doing the serpents work by tempting a women to sin?

    If a women said you were young and naive, would you say "Oh.  Thank you for noticing.  I will try to become more mature by listening and learning.  It is actually really selfish to think that you have more wisdom than an older person.

    This forum shouldn't be geared to anyone's emotions, but if we were exactly what we should be, then we would all be saints and probably not spend time here on CI.
    Eh while it's true that older people SHOULD have more wisdom than the young, have you seen most adults in today's world? They are blind fools. Look at how they accepted covid and mass immigration and other things. There are many trads (not on this forum) who perfectly fit the boomer and feminist archetype, why is this?


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  • It's definitely geared towards your emotions. Ever since you arrived, it's been constant drama and attention-seeking from you. Well feminist is something you shouldn't be and 'boomer' has the meaning it does because of the entitled, out of touch, insensitive boomer generation. If a boomer doesn't act like a boomer, then they won't be called that, it's that simple. A lot of old people are not that smart but they think they're owed respect because they're old lol. And a lot of them don't respect young people's opinions. You can learn from an old person's mistakes so you don't screw up your life but that doesn't mean they're advice is good.
    Also access to information online has allowed younger people to overtake the older people in knowledge, the older people struggle to use the tech. Information asymmetry is a real thing and we live in the age of information.

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  • The only thing about which he is correct is the time period of my birth. 1956. Since “Boomer” has become an insult, there are better words with which to convey my age. Since when is the date one’s birth something bad? God chose it without my input just as He chooses the date of my death.  You think you know me? If so, please state what makes me a feminist. My birth year doesn’t make me a feminist, so you’ll need to get more specific. Make a list and I’ll be glad to confirm or deny most of them, FYI.
    I see you don’t include the other insults, so you must know they’re likely untrue.
    This forum should be geared to the feelings of others, male or female, within the constraints of Truth and Christian charity.
    Boomer is not about age but about beliefs, these people in particular tend to have typical Jєωιѕн subversion as their beliefs.
    >oh immigration is good
    >finding a job is easy
    >women can wear pants and dress worse than prostitutes
    >you can marry a women after she has had her fun
    >trust the government
    >take vaccines so I won't get hurt by the flu
    etc etc

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  • I miss the 2012-2016 era of CI.  Yes there were trolls (PtM) and female drama (anyone remember DM?) but it didn't shut down valuable conversation of the real issues that traditional Catholics are facing.  We enjoyed great threads by some of the OG members....Telesphorus, Sean Johnson, hollingsworth, Cantate Domino, Amicus, people I can't even remember anymore but I know I learned so much.  We weren't distracted by endless threads from swastika-stanning edgelords and housewives blaming every Y-chromosome for their domestic misery.   

    I'm really enjoying The Inquisitors podcasts.  I wish we could dial in live and submit questions via chat.  It seems that CI could support a more interactive format if the interest were there.  I think it would really appeal to the younger audience that traditional Catholicism is starting to attract.  There is also a lot of isolation amongst our ranks and it might help lift the spirit of our lonely members.  I would be willing to buy a membership to log into the lives so that identity could be verified.

    Just my two cents.
    I wonder if Telesphorus ever succeed in his quest for love.


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  • The discourse on this platform is no longer the same. It IS a circular firing squad and the subject matter people are shooting at is not at all compelling but is repetitive and mundane, at least to me.
    Traditional Catholics should call out and argue the evil that is evident in the Church and in the world, but it seems that here the joy of salvation in Christ and the great gift of Catholicism  is secondary, if not absent most of the time.  It depresses me. There is also a lot of ganging up. I don't know if that's organic or from outside influence.
    Just sayin'.
    It's because most topics have a logical outcome that some chose to ignore in favor of personal opinions. Other topics however require the judgement of the Church to clarify.

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  • Boomer is not about age but about beliefs

    This is correct.  By age my parents were "Silents" but by ideology they were 100% Boomers. I attribute this to them both going to university in their mid 20's and being infected by liberal thinking which was contrary to their backgrounds and generation.

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  • Also access to information online has allowed younger people to overtake the older people in knowledge, the older people struggle to use the tech. Information asymmetry is a real thing and we live in the age of information.
    Funny, "boomers" said similar things about previous generations when they were young.... remember my smiling face :clown: in a few decades when you look back on yourself. :laugh1: :cowboy:


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  • Funny, "boomers" said similar things about previous generations when they were young.... remember my smiling face :clown: in a few decades when you look back on yourself. :laugh1: :cowboy:
    Boomers were literally wrong. They had incredible opportunity compared to everyone else. The difference is the younger generation can actually see they are right due to DATA. You cannot deny house prices, wages, inflation, most woman aren't virgins by 16, immigration etc. Boomers did not have these problems. Yet they refuse the acknowledge the REALITY they live in. This refusal is why people don't like 'boomers'.

    >Hey look at all these problems we have that you voted for
    >Sonny Boy that's not a problem it's a good thing like at how much my house has gone up, look at my cheap labor force etc

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  • Boomers were literally wrong. They had incredible opportunity compared to everyone else. The difference is the younger generation can actually see they are right due to DATA. You cannot deny house prices, wages, inflation, most woman aren't virgins by 16, immigration etc. Boomers did not have these problems. Yet they refuse the acknowledge the REALITY they live in. This refusal is why people don't like 'boomers'.

    >Hey look at all these problems we have that you voted for
    >Sonny Boy that's not a problem it's a good thing like at how much my house has gone up, look at my cheap labor force etc
    https://x.com/infraa_/status/1954868322245181825

    Some people are completely delusional and will ignore this chart.

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  • This is why.  The below was posted today by Ladislaus.

    "Pathetic and transparent gaslighting attempt by Borat the troll.

    No, everyone understands the meaning of positivie doubt, you wicked malicious liar who are aiding, abetting, and enabling the destructions of souls ... working your way toward perdition.

    Get lost, you wicked scuмbag."

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  • Boomers were literally wrong. They had incredible opportunity compared to everyone else. The difference is the younger generation can actually see they are right due to DATA. You cannot deny house prices, wages, inflation, most woman aren't virgins by 16, immigration etc. Boomers did not have these problems. Yet they refuse the acknowledge the REALITY they live in. This refusal is why people don't like 'boomers'.

    >Hey look at all these problems we have that you voted for
    >Sonny Boy that's not a problem it's a good thing like at how much my house has gone up, look at my cheap labor force etc
    https://x.com/infraa_/status/1954868322245181825

    Some people are completely delusional and will ignore this chart.
    Boomer is not about age but about beliefs, these people in particular tend to have typical Jєωιѕн subversion as their beliefs.
    >oh immigration is good
    >finding a job is easy
    >women can wear pants and dress worse than prostitutes
    >you can marry a women after she has had her fun
    >trust the government
    >take vaccines so I won't get hurt by the flu
    etc etc

    Reality is precisely what this is about. You can compile a veritable mountain of data, but that will only reflect a PART of reality, not the whole. See, for all the posts made bemoaning the impossibility of, well, pretty much EVERYTHING good, I know people in real life, dozens and dozens, who are making their way through this life in a very Catholic way. When I think about it, it's almost like our Lord was serious about His promises. /s

    There's an old saying, "figures never lie, but liars always figure". Do you not recognize that you often promote the smug despair that the enemy desires? You mention "Jєωιѕн subversion" above, do you not recognize that maybe you've been more subverted than many? A jew agent couldn't do a better job of trying to discourage souls. In the midst of a group who, by definition of being Catholic, should be able to embrace any and every obstacle with joy, we have the liar's voice demanding that we see only impossibility? We should have a non-stop pity party and an entitlement mentality worse than any "boomer" I've ever met? Are we entitled in this "information age" to be so F***ing ignorant of how hard life was for our forebears that we should wallow in complaints?* If I really thought that was the Catholic Faith, I'd say, "to hell with It" in a heartbeat!

    I'm the OP of this thread. All of the choices listed, including "other", are factors in why I do not spend as much time here as previous, but I had to take a day or two to consider what the primary reason is before I could choose. Number 1 was a close contender, but I finally chose no. 4. I've been very much guilty at times of every one of the faults mentioned above, but I'm starting to realize that life is too important to waste it with a doom-scrolling loser's mentality. 

    *For an example, thanks to modern technology, a couple of years ago I was able to find ~60 pages of docuмents detailing the effects on a direct ancestor of mine of being a prisoner of war.