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What is the primary reason that you are less active, or no longer active, on CathInfo?

Would like to be more active but no longer have the time due to external factors unrelated to CI.
2 (13.3%)
Think/feel that the forum dynamics have become unhealthy overall and will/would resume participation if/when things change. Please share thoughts on necessary changes.
5 (33.3%)
Primarily as a protest to a specific policy or member. Please share.
2 (13.3%)
Think/feel that continued participation, or participation to the degree formerly practiced, is counterproductive for me at this time.
4 (26.7%)
Other. Please share.
2 (13.3%)

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Would you consider creating a separate section, like the Feeney subforum, for those who are holding fast to the hardline position of Archbishop Lefebvre and the pre-2012 stance of Bishop Williamson?

These issues deserve a place where they can be addressed without shutting down discussion. Not because anyone demands “free speech,” but because truth must be safeguarded, and error must be corrected. That is Catholic. That is charity.

All we are asking is that a space be opened for those who are trying to remain exactly where Archbishop Lefebvre always stood. Not behind him. Not ahead of him. Right where he stood.


How is that any different from the forum itself, for example the "SSPX Resistance" subforum? That's precisely what this forum is for.

It's difficult to go about policing different points of view, allowing some, disallowing others, in the various threads there. That would be a TON of moderating work.
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People make fun of boomers, because generally speaking, the generalizations are true.  If one is taking it personally, that's on them.  A generalization is not a personal attack.  Don't be a snowflake.
Ok.  But ask yourself, what was your purpose in calling me a snowflake?  It is this behavior that is unappealing and needs to stop.  This is how "boomer" has been used in past discussions.  You would have respectfully made your point if you left off the last sentence, but you decided to add drama with a personal jab.

And to be clear I find humor in the hypocrisy, it just means we all have a long way to go to get to Heaven. :cowboy:
1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"


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If you have a meltdown over the term snowflake, you just might be one.  

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If you have a meltdown over the term snowflake, you just might be one. 
This is a funny statement.

It can be taken at face value as just a comment.

Or it can be interpreted as a direction for the person who just made a comment on the term.

The only person who knows what was intended is the poster.

Is this not away to produce drama?
1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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Quote from: Matthew 2025-08-07, 12:27:05 PM

How is that any different from the forum itself, for example the "SSPX Resistance" subforum? That's precisely what this forum is for.

It's difficult to go about policing different points of view, allowing some, disallowing others, in the various threads there. That would be a TON of moderating work.
Thank you, Matthew. I truly understand what you are saying. But this is not about asking for more moderation. It is actually about asking for less.

Right now, threads that respectfully raise serious concerns about Bishop Williamson or his network are often shut down, even when they are calm, factual, and posted in the Resistance section. Many faithful have been labeled, dismissed, or even banned simply for holding to the same principles Bishop Williamson himself defended before 2012.

What some of us are asking for is not a second Resistance forum, but a space within the one that already exists where Catholics can remain firmly rooted in Archbishop Lefebvre’s clear position without being treated as divisive or extreme. These are not fringe opinions. They are the very principles that built the Resistance in the first place.

New souls are discovering the battle every day. They are coming from the Novus Ordo, from indult communities, from the Neo-SSPX, and they are looking for clarity. They are not here to cause division. They are asking real questions, and they deserve space to find solid ground.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Catholics today who hold this same position. Many of them have been pushed to the margins or scattered across different platforms. But if a clear space were provided on CathInfo, I am confident that many of them would return. With a bit of encouragement, conversation would begin flowing again from those who only left because they had nowhere else to go.

If there is room on CathInfo for Feeneyites, Sedevacantists, and all manner of theological discussion, then surely there can be room for those who are simply trying to hold the line where Archbishop Lefebvre always stood.

This would not increase your burden. It would bring clarity and stability. And it would strengthen the forum’s original purpose.

Thank you again for all the work you have done to keep this place alive. Many of us still believe CathInfo has a vital role to play. We simply ask that there be space for Catholics who refuse to move one inch from the foundation the Archbishop gave us.




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Thank you, Matthew. I truly understand what you are saying. But this is not about asking for more moderation. It is actually about asking for less.

Right now, threads that respectfully raise serious concerns about Bishop Williamson or his network are often shut down, even when they are calm, factual, and posted in the Resistance section. Many faithful have been labeled, dismissed, or even banned simply for holding to the same principles Bishop Williamson himself defended before 2012.

What some of us are asking for is not a second Resistance forum, but a space within the one that already exists where Catholics can remain firmly rooted in Archbishop Lefebvre’s clear position without being treated as divisive or extreme. These are not fringe opinions. They are the very principles that built the Resistance in the first place.

New souls are discovering the battle every day. They are coming from the Novus Ordo, from indult communities, from the Neo-SSPX, and they are looking for clarity. They are not here to cause division. They are asking real questions, and they deserve space to find solid ground.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Catholics today who hold this same position. Many of them have been pushed to the margins or scattered across different platforms. But if a clear space were provided on CathInfo, I am confident that many of them would return. With a bit of encouragement, conversation would begin flowing again from those who only left because they had nowhere else to go.

If there is room on CathInfo for Feeneyites, Sedevacantists, and all manner of theological discussion, then surely there can be room for those who are simply trying to hold the line where Archbishop Lefebvre always stood.

This would not increase your burden. It would bring clarity and stability. And it would strengthen the forum’s original purpose.

Thank you again for all the work you have done to keep this place alive. Many of us still believe CathInfo has a vital role to play. We simply ask that there be space for Catholics who refuse to move one inch from the foundation the Archbishop gave us.
Just for clarity.  Do you remember the names of some of the threads that were shut down?  Also can you articulate a list of the certain positions from Archbishop Lefebvre that you think are in jeopard?
1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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Quote from: Gray2023 2025-08-07, 1:01:28 PM
Just for clarity.  Do you remember the names of some of the threads that were shut down?  Also can you articulate a list of the certain positions from Archbishop Lefebvre that you think are in jeopard?
Fair question. But out of respect for Matthew and his discernment as moderator, I will wait before listing specifics.

This is not about past threads. It is about holding the same positions Archbishop Lefebvre always held, positions now treated as extreme only because others have moved.

Better to let the moderator consider the request on its own merits.



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I miss the 2012-2016 era of CI.  Yes there were trolls (PtM) and female drama (anyone remember DM?) but it didn't shut down valuable conversation of the real issues that traditional Catholics are facing.  We enjoyed great threads by some of the OG members....Telesphorus, Sean Johnson, hollingsworth, Cantate Domino, Amicus, people I can't even remember anymore but I know I learned so much.  We weren't distracted by endless threads from swastika-stanning edgelords and housewives blaming every Y-chromosome for their domestic misery.   

I'm really enjoying The Inquisitors podcasts.  I wish we could dial in live and submit questions via chat.  It seems that CI could support a more interactive format if the interest were there.  I think it would really appeal to the younger audience that traditional Catholicism is starting to attract.  There is also a lot of isolation amongst our ranks and it might help lift the spirit of our lonely members.  I would be willing to buy a membership to log into the lives so that identity could be verified.

Just my two cents.


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I miss the 2012-2016 era of CI.  Yes there were trolls (PtM) and female drama (anyone remember DM?) but it didn't shut down valuable conversation of the real issues that traditional Catholics are facing.  We enjoyed great threads by some of the OG members....Telesphorus, Sean Johnson, hollingsworth, Cantate Domino, Amicus, people I can't even remember anymore but I know I learned so much.  We weren't distracted by endless threads from swastika-stanning edgelords and housewives blaming every Y-chromosome for their domestic misery.   

I'm really enjoying The Inquisitors podcasts.  I wish we could dial in live and submit questions via chat.  It seems that CI could support a more interactive format if the interest were there.  I think it would really appeal to the younger audience that traditional Catholicism is starting to attract.  There is also a lot of isolation amongst our ranks and it might help lift the spirit of our lonely members.  I would be willing to buy a membership to log into the lives so that identity could be verified.

Just my two cents.
This was me.

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It is about holding the same positions Archbishop Lefebvre always held, positions now treated as extreme only because others have moved.
Examples?

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Don't know who's inactive/active, but I do there are a lot of paid infiltrators on here.
Who is paying Matthew for countermeasures? 
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Don't know who's inactive/active, but I do there are a lot of paid infiltrators on here.

You make it sound like that's a bad thing!

You do realize, of course, that the presence of agents/infiltrators would only serve to prove that CathInfo is an important, or at least a noteworthy, hangout.

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I’ve not posted as much as formerly the last few weeks due to the immature behavior of a certain person, formerly known as Croix, but it may be another person(s) as well.  I do not engage in puerile behavior more suited to platforms like TikTok, X, or FB. This person(s) is unable/unwilling to have an adult conversation. Instead of responding thoughtfully, he name-calls, makes false accusations about others (and myself) pertaining to matters he cannot possibly know. In particular, I do not think I’m alone in not wishing to read about or be called crypto-Jew, Boomer, feminist, fαɢɢօt, mutt, commie, libtard, bastard, (insulting my deceased parents), immodest, etc.
While each has his own opinion as to whether he likes, dislikes, Jews, Blacks, people of nationalities other than 100% White, that is not the reason Matthew created this forum.
To quote from the bottom of this page, CathInfo “is a message board with Catholic news and information for traditional Catholics living in the modern world.” 
What I’m seeing recently is multiple threads whose main topics are about the superiority or inferiority of those of a certain races and ethnic backgrounds, not as they relate mainly to Catholicism, but to the poster’s personal opinion presented as if he speaks for God, Himself. Those who disagree or attempt to redirect the conversation towards intelligent, Christ-like discourse get called names.

This person knows who he is. I’m calling for him to censor himself or to get off of CI. Find a forum that centers upon those of like opinions and manners of expression about those topics in particular.

If his goal is to drive all others away and/or to cause Matthew to shut down CI, WHY?  Remember, we are all answerable to Christ at our particular judgments for every idle word. Just because the internet didn’t exist at the time Our Lord gave this warning does not exclude our speech used online. If he has some sort of anger problem, hatred in his heart towards those who wronged him, or is perhaps a 13 year old in an adult body, he should get counseling from a priest or a older man who is proven himself wise.
(If I wanted to deal with immature middle school boys, I could easily update my NYS 6-8 teacher’s certification and get a job in the public middle school ten blocks from my house. School is starting soon and public schools, middle through high school, are lacking teachers and applicants.)
IOW, Croix, Soft Pillow, or whoever you are, stick to topics as related to Catholicism, and speak like an adult.
It's actually kind of funny, in a pathetic way, when you think about it. A person whose chief boasts are the attributes that he did not choose or earn; heritage (race), gender, and age. 

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I've already stated my reasons.  I'm still the all-time top poster here on CI (sort by number of posts in the Members area).

1) Croix has turned the forum into a total joke.  He gets "banned", comes back, the Moderator knows he's back but just laughs it off and then lets him run amok again, and his behavior is puerile and idiotic, lowering the level of discourse here by many notches.  He also could very well be a fed, having boasted of access to various non-public sources of intelligence, and making such over-the-top comments as to be nothing short absurd caricatures of the worst kind of racism ... that only someone trying "too hard" could even cook up, i.e. attempting to act as an agent provocateur could ever make such comments (short of his having serious psychological problems).

I find it embarrassing to participate in this stupidity.

2) Several Posters (mostly the sedevacantists) here who get away with slandering public figures with impunity, alleging that their conversions are fake, that they're Masonic Luciferian sun worshippers, and infiltrators ... and this is key ... WITHOUT a shred of credible evidence for those claims, clearly just made out thin air over bitterness about the fact that their targets are not lifelong sedevacantists.  While certain amount of speculation and theorizing, based on actual evidence, can be helpful and useful, the allegations that are simply made up cannot be excused of calumny and/or slander.  But the calumn and slander continue with impunity here, and I will not be party to it.

I find it morally repugnant to see the torrents of slander and calumny issuing from those who pretend to be morally superior Trads.

3) Increasing frustration over people who string together one fallacy after another, often blending in lies ... in order to justify positions they've taken for various emotional reasons, and then, after being, corrected ... simply regurgitating the very same fallacies.

I find that I need the old "Glenn Beck" duct tape wrapped around my head to keep it from exploding.

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Matthew, your stewardship of CathInfo has kept it at the center of the traditional Catholic world for nearly two decades. It remains the one place where much of the Resistance was preserved, long before the rise of video platforms or new apostolates. That is something God will reward.

But because of that influence, I ask this with sincerity. Would you consider creating a separate section, like the Feeney subforum, for those who are holding fast to the hardline position of Archbishop Lefebvre and the pre-2012 stance of Bishop Williamson?

There are many souls just now coming into the fight. They are discovering the crisis in the Church, and then the crisis within the Resistance. They are not here to stir trouble. They are searching for clarity, and many are asking real questions about serious errors that can no longer be ignored: the promotion of Novus Ordo miracles, the silence on conditional ordinations, and the cover-up of immoral clergy.

These issues deserve a place where they can be addressed without shutting down discussion. Not because anyone demands “free speech,” but because truth must be safeguarded, and error must be corrected. That is Catholic. That is charity.

You have always exercised great responsibility over this forum. All we are asking is that a space be opened for those who are trying to remain exactly where Archbishop Lefebvre always stood. Not behind him. Not ahead of him. Right where he stood.

For the good of souls, it is time.
Thank you, Matthew. I truly understand what you are saying. But this is not about asking for more moderation. It is actually about asking for less.

Right now, threads that respectfully raise serious concerns about Bishop Williamson or his network are often shut down, even when they are calm, factual, and posted in the Resistance section. Many faithful have been labeled, dismissed, or even banned simply for holding to the same principles Bishop Williamson himself defended before 2012.

What some of us are asking for is not a second Resistance forum, but a space within the one that already exists where Catholics can remain firmly rooted in Archbishop Lefebvre’s clear position without being treated as divisive or extreme. These are not fringe opinions. They are the very principles that built the Resistance in the first place.

New souls are discovering the battle every day. They are coming from the Novus Ordo, from indult communities, from the Neo-SSPX, and they are looking for clarity. They are not here to cause division. They are asking real questions, and they deserve space to find solid ground.

There are hundreds, if not thousands, of Catholics today who hold this same position. Many of them have been pushed to the margins or scattered across different platforms. But if a clear space were provided on CathInfo, I am confident that many of them would return. With a bit of encouragement, conversation would begin flowing again from those who only left because they had nowhere else to go.

If there is room on CathInfo for Feeneyites, Sedevacantists, and all manner of theological discussion, then surely there can be room for those who are simply trying to hold the line where Archbishop Lefebvre always stood.

This would not increase your burden. It would bring clarity and stability. And it would strengthen the forum’s original purpose.

Thank you again for all the work you have done to keep this place alive. Many of us still believe CathInfo has a vital role to play. We simply ask that there be space for Catholics who refuse to move one inch from the foundation the Archbishop gave us.



IOW, CI should have a Hewko-Cult subforum.
Nice brown-nosing, BTW.