Does the SSPX consider the Thuc consecrations to be valid?  What stance does the SSPX have toward the CMRI?

I guarantee you Bishop Fellay can't stand the CMRI.

But why?  Does Bishop Fellay think there is something invalid about the CMRI?

Does the SSPX consider the CMRI consecrations and ordinations to be valid?

I'm almost positive that I read somewhere that the SSPX has at least one Thuc line priest.

I don't think they have an official position.  Even if they do though, what difference would it make?  Both the SSPX and the CMRI have absolutely no jurisdiction, meaning that their opinions hold no more weight than any Catholic, including all of us on CathInfo.

People who make comments like the one above have a poor understanding of jurisdiction.  

Once the Vatican entered apostasy, they lost jurisdiction while one holy SSPX priest has Our Lord's very own jurisdiction, the Heavenly kind.  A validly ordained priest, for example, a Catholic priest ordained using the pre-Paul VI rites, is a vicar of Christ.  Even a pope of the standing of Pope Leo XIII is a witness to the faith just like any Catholic in the pews.  

Now, tell me, what is the SSPX position on the CMRI.

"I guarantee you Bishop Fellay can't stand the CMRI"

The pride of the shepherd is often the cause of the sheep being led away.  And you wonder where our "righteous anger" comes from?

I am CMRI.  My opinion is that SSPX accepts the pope as pope, CMRI understands that the pope was invalid in nomination and therefore the election is null and void.  This pope is not  a pope by definition of the church teachings.  This is just one of the safe guards of the church.  Vatican I, is a great start for reading and understanding how infallibility was proven and came about.  

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I don't think they have an official position.  Even if they do though, what difference would it make?  Both the SSPX and the CMRI have absolutely no jurisdiction, meaning that their opinions hold no more weight than any Catholic, including all of us on CathInfo.

People who make comments like the one above have a poor understanding of jurisdiction.  

Once the Vatican entered apostasy, they lost jurisdiction while one holy SSPX priest has Our Lord's very own jurisdiction, the Heavenly kind.  A validly ordained priest, for example, a Catholic priest ordained using the pre-Paul VI rites, is a vicar of Christ.  Even a pope of the standing of Pope Leo XIII is a witness to the faith just like any Catholic in the pews.  

Now, tell me, what is the SSPX position on the CMRI.

The person you're replying to is right until he says that an effect of their having 'absolutely no jurisdiction' is that their opinion holds no more weight than any Catholic.  Jurisdiction has nothing to do with opinion.  We *should* heed the opinion of traditional Clergy, if they are properly formed.  We can heed their opinion without them having jurisdiction over us.  But that doesn't mean they have some extraordinary 'Heavenly' form of jurisdiction.  They have supplied jurisdiction for certain acts, which only extends to the act and for the duration of.  

Perhaps supplied jurisdiction is a form of Heavenly jurisdiction?  

A validly ordained Catholic priest and a validly consecrated Catholic bishop is a Vicar of Christ too.  

The Pope is a follower of Christ too.  The Pope cannot contradict Our Lord without becoming a heretic or apostate and at this point he risks falling not just from the glorious Chair of Peter but all the way out of the Church.

Besides, the novus ordo church is in a state of apostasy and apostates lose jurisdiction.  

The Holy Catholic Church is present in the world whether Pope Francis and his goons are apostates or not.  It is present in the Traditional Catholic groups.

I know that the official position of the CMRI is that it is okay to go to SSPX Masses. There is a supporter of the CMRI who often comes to Mass at my SSPX chapel. I don't know what the SSPX thinks about CMRI Masses, though.

I think the SSPX frowns on the CMRI, because the CMRI takes the plunge and fully embraces the sedevacantist position while the SSPX is a psuedo-sedevacantist group.  The SSPX admits there is a pope but that the pope is none of their business so they ignore him.  

Except, of course, when they play patty cakes with Rome and pretend to want to do a deal.  What is the motivation to negotiating?