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Änσnymσus

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Re: What are the statistics for traditional groups?
« Reply #10 on: October 19, 2022, 10:09:44 AM »
Quote from: 2Vermont on October 19, 2022, 10:06:14 AM
Where did you get your numbers?

Where the sun don't shine.
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Änσnymσus

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Re: What are the statistics for traditional groups?
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2022, 11:30:08 AM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on October 19, 2022, 10:09:44 AM
Where the sun don't shine.
That is correct, you figured it out. I just made it up based on my feelings. And unfortunately, I was feeling rather silly, plus this was on the Anonymous section, which made the combination even worse!
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What are the statistics for traditional groups?
« Reply #12 on: October 19, 2022, 06:23:59 PM »
Quote from: Änσnymσus on October 19, 2022, 10:02:34 AM
I could be wrong on this, but this is what I came up with:

FSSP, 45,987
 ICKSP, 21,344
SSPX, 67,890
CMRI, 6,892
RCI, 456
IMBC, 345
SGG - 5,678

I would have guessed (United States) --

SSPX > FSSP > CMRI > SSPV > ICKSP > RCI (last three being a tossup in my mind)

IMO, ICKSP is not really big in US, and IMBC practically non-existent
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: What are the statistics for traditional groups?
« Reply #13 on: October 19, 2022, 06:45:35 PM »
US chapel count (rough numbers based on websites)

SSPX -- 125 chapels

CMRI -- 63 chapels

FSSP -- 50 chapels

SSPV -- 28 chapels (includes regular SSPV + CSPV, whatever the difference)

ICKSP -- 15 US chapels
https://www.institute-christ-king.org/institute-apostolate-map

RCI -- 13 priests, but no indication of how many chapels

I would guess that, despite the fact that CMRI have more chapels, FSSP would have more faithful (as they tend to get bigger churches)
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Offline Matthew

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Re: What are the statistics for traditional groups?
« Reply #14 on: October 19, 2022, 06:51:49 PM »
# of chapels is SO deceiving however.

Some chapels have 30 parishioners, others have 3,000 or more (St. Marys KS).

As you pointed out, FSSP gets full churches that can hold many hundreds -- so the question is, How full do they manage to pack these churches on Sunday?

SSPX sometimes, due to cheapness/re-allocating resources to build "monuments" and other reasons, often chooses to have 2 or even 3 Masses at an overcrowded chapel, rather than upgrade. Along the same lines, the SSPX will often MERGE two or more chapels together, so they can sell the "excess" real estate because they are greedy for money. They are greedy for real estate too, but only because it can be sold for money. Not so it can be used to save souls. Not unless the saving of souls ALSO gives them money and power.
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