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Re: Welfare Only Way to Support Large Family
« Reply #15 on: December 06, 2019, 08:19:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on December 06, 2019, 08:03:29 PM
    It IS NOT MEANT TO BE A WAY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEMSELVES.

     Get a second job...or a third....if that’s what it takes to support your family.  Stay off of welfare.  
    A pox on libertarianism. There is no greater curse on the traditional Catholic world than libertarianism. Get a second job . . . or a third . . . what about the obligation for the employer to provide a living wage. While the Jews get their Billions from state-sponsored usury and government bailouts the traditional Catholic works sixteen hours a day for two bits to support his family because he refuses to accept SNAP. 
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    Re: Welfare Only Way to Support Large Family
    « Reply #16 on: December 06, 2019, 08:32:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on December 06, 2019, 03:18:07 PM
    Is it right to have more children knowing that you will only be able to support your family by using food stamps and other forms of welfare?

    This is, of course, assuming that husband is already working 50-60 hours a week?

    Damn right it is! I'm providing children with true grit for tomorrow's citizens, for Heaven and Earth, contrary to the selfish bastards who rape and pillage the necessary means for the family, that God has intended, to populate this earth for future citizens of Heaven!

    Not that my family recieves much assistance, I'm speaking more on an objective level...
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    Re: Welfare Only Way to Support Large Family
    « Reply #17 on: December 06, 2019, 08:39:23 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on December 06, 2019, 08:03:29 PM
    Welfare is meant to be a hand up for those who need a little help getting back on their feet after a difficult time.  It IS NOT MEANT TO BE A WAY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEMSELVES.

    If you are using welfare as a way of life you are defrauding yourself and wasting the talents God has given you.  Get a second job...or a third....if that’s what it takes to support your family.  Stay off welfare.  
    You are advocating slavery?
    Children have a right to and a need of their father for a reasonable time during their waking hours. Maybe a second job, just maybe, but children cannot bring themselves up. Take what you can morally get. A workman is entitled to a wage whereon he can raise a family. 
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    Re: Welfare Only Way to Support Large Family
    « Reply #18 on: December 06, 2019, 08:40:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on December 06, 2019, 08:19:43 PM
    While the Jews get their Billions from state-sponsored usury and government bailouts the traditional Catholic works sixteen hours a day for two bits to support his family because he refuses to accept SNAP.

    This is foolish, in my opinion. Our Lord said we have to be prudent, like the man who makes sure he has wherewithal to build a tower to completion before starting the project. Also, the example of a king suing for peace when he has only 10K troops against the other king's 20K. In a word, PRUDENCE.

    Going into the battle of life without legal, offered government assistance is like going into battle outnumbered and naked. Maybe you consider yourself purist or honorable, but I say you're just being a proud stubborn fool. Oh, and I bet anyone who disagrees (the purists) are idealistic, single guys who haven't even met their spouse yet, much less have any kids. (We'll talk to them after they get going on the game of life. They're still on the starting line.) And I can't forget the Baby Boomers. They might have avoided welfare because the economy was so good when they were getting started. Many of them are nice people, but with all due respect they haven't the faintest clue what younger generations have to do to just pay the bills and stay afloat. I'll give you a hint: a father working a minimum wage job is no longer enough to support a family on even a poor standard of living. In the 1970's it was!
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    Re: Welfare Only Way to Support Large Family
    « Reply #19 on: December 06, 2019, 08:43:18 PM »
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    • What is SNAP?
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    « Reply #20 on: December 06, 2019, 08:45:08 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on December 06, 2019, 08:43:18 PM
    What is SNAP?
    Supplemental Nutritional Assistance Program, formerly known as Food Stamps.
    At least that's what it says on my benefit card.
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    « Reply #21 on: December 06, 2019, 08:49:49 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on December 06, 2019, 08:03:29 PM
    Welfare is meant to be a hand up for those who need a little help getting back on their feet after a difficult time.  It IS NOT MEANT TO BE A WAY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEMSELVES.

    If you are using welfare as a way of life you are defrauding yourself and wasting the talents God has given you.  Get a second job...or a third....if that’s what it takes to support your family.  Stay off of welfare.  


    Ok Boomer.
    It's not as easy for us as it was for you. 
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    « Reply #22 on: December 06, 2019, 08:51:38 PM »
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    « Reply #23 on: December 06, 2019, 08:53:04 PM »
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    • So just for starters, 1/3 of the workforce in 1970's was Boomers and slightly older who dropped out and didn't even graduate high school.
    Today, only 10% of the jobs market is open to such individuals.
    And if you graduated HS but have no college, you had 72% of the job market to choose from in the 1970s, vs. only 38% today.
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    « Reply #24 on: December 06, 2019, 09:35:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on December 06, 2019, 08:39:23 PM
    You are advocating slavery?
    Children have a right to and a need of their father for a reasonable time during their waking hours. Maybe a second job, just maybe, but children cannot bring themselves up. Take what you can morally get. A workman is entitled to a wage whereon he can raise a family.
    Than he needs to develop the skills and or education to earn that wage.  No one owes him nothing, regardless if he has no kids or a dozen.
    Someone wants a living wage? Than they need to figure out how much they need to earn and then do what they have to do to develop the skills and knowledge to earn it.  
    It is no one else’s responsibility to take care of you...or your family.
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    « Reply #25 on: December 06, 2019, 09:38:46 PM »
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    • I think the questions should be, do you smoke? Give up tobacco! Do you drink alcohol or fancy Starbucks coffees? Maybe you shouldn’t. Do you eat out at restaurants? Maybe that is a luxury you can’t afford. Do you buy brand name foods and clothes? Do you drive a car With a crazy high interest loan on it? In America the poor are still much more comfortable than those in third world countries where it is a struggle just to get clean water. 
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    « Reply #26 on: December 06, 2019, 09:44:19 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on December 06, 2019, 08:49:49 PM
    Ok Boomer.
    It's not as easy for us as it was for you.

    Boomer...HA!

    Not even close!  This ain’t the 1960-70-80’s. You can’t expect to get out of high school and get a reasonable paying job. So find something else.  Plumber was just at my house.  Charged me $75 an hour.  My mechanic charges $50.  My cousin manages a McDonalds and makes $52,000 a year working 50 hours a week.

    Cut the statistical bullshit.  Stop making excuses.  Pick yourself up, brush your self off and get it done.  Don’t expect other people to support you.
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    « Reply #27 on: December 06, 2019, 09:45:24 PM »
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    • Someone working 55 hours a week at $15.00 an hour will gross $50,700 per year. With several children they may feel a pinch. But I think it can certainly be done. Get rid of your smartphone. Get a flip phone for $20 or less a month. Cancel internet and Netflix, and cable and espn and amazon prime. Manage your money and sacrifice. Be content with a smaller house in a rural inexpensive area. 
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    « Reply #28 on: December 06, 2019, 09:47:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Anonymous on December 06, 2019, 08:53:04 PM
    So just for starters, 1/3 of the workforce in 1970's was Boomers and slightly older who dropped out and didn't even graduate high school.
    Today, only 10% of the jobs market is open to such individuals.
    And if you graduated HS but have no college, you had 72% of the job market to choose from in the 1970s, vs. only 38% today.
    Yup, times have changed...as they always do and people have to change with it as they always have.
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    Re: Welfare Only Way to Support Large Family
    « Reply #29 on: December 06, 2019, 10:15:58 PM »
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    • Who are these most wonderful people giving advice about giving up their smartphones, Netflix, expensive high interest loan possessions and such to give such valuable advice to head of households that make more than the medium household makes in the US on average with 4.5 times the national average of children, without a mortgage by the way, to preach on how they support their families better? Could ALL you anons please expound further for our edification how your blueprint can be executed in such a manner that it satifies your understandings, or acceptance, of the jooish pailing operations? 
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