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  • No, Cato, Welfare Doesn't Pay More Than Minimum Wage
    Aug 21 2013    Published by mikedunford under Uncategorized

    It's been a while since I've posted anything, but the intellectual dishonesty of a recent, and in the news, Cato Institute report got the juices flowing.

    The gravamen (yes, I'm still in law school) of the Cato report in question is that welfare "pays" more in most states than a minimum wage job. From the report:

    Far from condemning welfare recipients to a life of poverty, welfare actually exceeds the FPL [Federal Poverty Level] in 42 states and the District of Columbia (as show [sic] in Table 5). In fact, in the District of Columbia, Hawaii, and Massachusetts, welfare pays more than twice the poverty level.

    I don't mind that the Cato Institute is opposed to welfare. I do mind that they lie to try to influence policy on welfare, particularly when the Republicans in the House are about to push for additional budget cuts.

    The truth of the matter, of course, is that even a minimum wage job is likely to leave a family better off than no job at all. This is true in part because many assistance programs do not automatically cut off the moment that you start to work. The programs have income-based eligibility requirements, and many people who work minimum wage jobs will continue to qualify for these programs.

    This does not show up in the Cato report, because the Cato report did not bother to include continued eligibility for benefits when they compared "welfare" with a minimum wage job. Their comparison assumes that welfare "pays" better than a minimum wage job based on the assumption that the welfare recipient collects from every major assistance program, and that the minimum wage earner collects only pay + the Earned Income Tax Credit (which they condescendingly point out is actually a form of welfare).

    It doesn't take very long to identify most of the sources of intellectual dishonesty in the Cato report. I'm going to hit the high points there, and provide a few examples of how things look in a more realistic (but still very favorable to Cato) scenario.

    We'll start by looking at some of the most basic lies in the report.

    First, their "typical welfare family" is nothing of the kind. They base their calculations entirely on families that are eligible for Temporary Assistance to Needy Families (TANF). However, most of the programs that they include in the welfare income have a much broader reach than nonworking families. Here's a quick breakdown:

    Nationwide, in Fiscal Year 2010, there were a total of 1,847,155 households with active TANF cases. In the same fiscal year, 18,618,436 households received SNAP (food stamp) benefits, and another 65,989,147 individuals (~25,577,188 households based on the census 2.58 individuals/household) received medicaid benefits. According to the Cato report's own definitions, households on both of those programs should be "welfare families." With less than 10% of SNAP households also receiving TANF, and less than 3% of Medicaid households receiving SNAP, it's easy to see that Cato's "typical welfare family" is actually based on an extreme case, not on anything that any of us would consider to be an "average."

    But let's drill down further.

    In order to determine what welfare "pays," the authors of the Cato report based their calculations on the assumption that the "typical welfare family" consists of "a single mother with two children." Cato provides no citation (naturally) for this assumption.

    It should also be noted that while Cato does not explicitly state this anywhere, Cato's "typical welfare family" actually assumes that both the children in the family are under age 5 - they include WIC benefits for both children in their calculation of what welfare "pays." Less than 20% of single mother families have 2 children under age 18 - let alone age 5. Here, again, the "typical welfare family" is anything but.


    Cato also assumes that the "typical welfare family" receives housing benefits. This is the big assumption, given that housing benefits are the single largest contributor to Cato's calculation for the majority of states. Yet, according to Cato's own numbers, less than 15% of households receiving TANF receive housing assistance. Cato excluded housing from their calculation where less than 10% of TANF families receive housing assistance, but included it for all other states despite the fact that there are only 5 states where even a quarter of households on TANF receive housing benefits.

    Cato also includes Medicaid from their calculations of what welfare recipients get, but excluded it from their calculation of what minimum-wage workers receive. Medicaid, unsurprisingly, is another large dollar component in Cato's calculation of what a welfare recipient gets. However, the same Cato hypothetical family would retain Medicaid eligibility even if the single mother worked 40 hours at minimum wage in all 52 weeks of the year.

    Cato includes utilities assistance in their calculation in many states. However, in many states there is not actually a monthly benefit available for utilities. Assistance is need based, and much of it goes to deal with crisis situations, or for one-time payments. Similarly, states vary eligibility for the TEFAP program quite a bit.

    So let's break down where things really stand if we take a more realistic - but still generous to Cato - view. This is made easy by a table that Cato buried at the bottom of the report, where they calculate the total based on the benefits that are received by an actual majority of "typical welfare families" (in other words, what Cato's actually typical "typical welfare family" would receive). We'll compare this to what a minimum wage employee would receive based on a 40*52*minimum wage salary, less 7.65% withholding ($14,887 in states that use the federal minimum wage), plus the medicaid value for the state as calculated by Cato. (If the same family qualified while on TANF, they'd still qualify at the $14,887 income, which is far below the federal poverty line for a family of 3.) To this, we will add another $5,000 in refundable tax credits. Most of the Cato "typical" one-parent, two-child families will actually get more than that, but we'll cut the figure for ease of calculation and to account for state taxes. This gives us a total of $19,887 in pre-medicaid income for those families.

    Hawai‘i, according to Cato, has the most generous benefits. Cato's up front calculation says Hawai‘i "typical welfare recipients" receive $49,175 in welfare benefits. Their "typical typical" calculation drops that to $23,235. Cato's Medicaid calculation for Hawai‘i is $6,776. The minimum wage family is several thousand dollars better off than the "typical welfare family."

    In Mississippi, which Cato ranks dead last in welfare generosity, the up front calculation gives welfare families $16,984. Mississippi provides housing assistance to less than 10% of TANF families, so Cato's "typical typical" calculation isn't much different ($15,261). Cato's Medicaid calculation for Mississippi is $6,909, putting the minimum wage family at nearly $26,000 - more than $10,000 better off than most welfare families.

    New York often gets labeled as a welfare state. The "typical typical" benefit there is about $24,000, but almost half of that ($10,464) is Medicaid. The minimum wage + Medicaid family will be more than $6,000 better off than the welfare family. You're about that much better off in California, too, before taking the higher minimum wage into account.

    Alaska tops the Cato "typical typical" list at $26,560, but even there the minimum wage plus Medicaid family will be ~$2,000 better off annually.

    In short - too late - there appears to be NO state where a family in the same situation as the family Cato used for their welfare calculations will be worse off if employed at a minimum wage job. Zero. None. Nada.

    To put it another way, Cato's statement that, "The current welfare system provides such a
    high level of benefits that it acts as a disincentive for work," is not just a lie in general, it's a lie in all 50 states, and in the District of Columbia.

    But none of that will stop this from becoming a Tea Party meme.


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    Welfare does NOT pay more than minimum wage - Cato is stupid
    « Reply #1 on: May 21, 2014, 09:50:02 PM »
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  • Changing the subject a bit, if the minimum wage is increased over $10.00
    an hour.  Not only some small businesses cannot afford the increase and
    some closes their doors causing more unemployment because of the
    lay offs. Other businesses will just raise their prices on the consumers.
    If the family is depending on welfare programs such as foods stamps,
    aid to dependent children, section 8 housing, free lunches for the
    school age children.  
    The increased minimum wage will cause the many of those under
    the poverty level will lose some and  many of their welfare
    benefits. Because, they will be earning more than the poverty
    level.
    If these programs have to be paid partially out of pocket by the
    recipients.
    They cannot.  They will fall further into poverty.
    These are the arguments that you will have to think about
    about a raise in the minimum wage.



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    Welfare does NOT pay more than minimum wage - Cato is stupid
    « Reply #2 on: May 21, 2014, 09:51:33 PM »
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  • Let me tell you this, I was in college and working as a manager at a restaurant.

    One of my  cashiers was 16 and she got pregnant and did not know who the daddy was.

    She quit her job.

    Her parents took her before a judge and got her emancipated. This allowed her to go on welfare. Bottom line is she was given more money than I was making at my management job and I was putting in 60+ hours a week.

    She was getting paid for being a little whore and her parents were off the hook but all us tax payers got to chip in to raise her baby.

    Makes me sick.

    from- crossbro

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    Welfare does NOT pay more than minimum wage - Cato is stupid
    « Reply #3 on: May 22, 2014, 12:40:53 AM »
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  • She came back to brag about how well-off she was?

    Give me some numbers... how much were you making? how much was she getting and from what programs?

    Was this pre or post 1997?

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    Welfare does NOT pay more than minimum wage - Cato is stupid
    « Reply #4 on: May 22, 2014, 12:48:20 AM »
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    She came back to brag about how well-off she was?

    Give me some numbers... how much were you making? how much was she getting and from what programs?

    Was this pre or post 1997?


    As a matter of fact she did come back to brag. She had just turned 17 and was able to afford an apartment of her own on welfare and had moved out of her parent's home.

    This was in the first half of the 90s. Even though CA had passed a law around this time stating that people could only be on welfare a certain number of years of their lifetime it kept getting extended to single mothers.

    My income was about a 1000 a month at the time not including the fact I had another part time job. An apartment in the Sacramento area at the time was about $385 - 550 around then.

    -crossbro


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    Welfare does NOT pay more than minimum wage - Cato is stupid
    « Reply #5 on: May 22, 2014, 01:11:21 AM »
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    She came back to brag about how well-off she was?

    Give me some numbers... how much were you making? how much was she getting and from what programs?

    Was this pre or post 1997?


    As a matter of fact she did come back to brag. She had just turned 17 and was able to afford an apartment of her own on welfare and had moved out of her parent's home.

    This was in the first half of the 90s. Even though CA had passed a law around this time stating that people could only be on welfare a certain number of years of their lifetime it kept getting extended to single mothers.

    My income was about a 1000 a month at the time not including the fact I had another part time job. An apartment in the Sacramento area at the time was about $385 - 550 around then.

    -crossbro


    She would have been receiving AFDC. The program was replaced in 1997, but it seems not many have updated their impressions of welfare. I don't know if the reforms accomplished what they were supposed to, but the number of people in the program is about 1/3 of what it was at that time.

    According to wikipedia, being unwed and under 18, she'd now be required to reside with her parents (and would likely not qualify for the assistance).