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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Warning from a college educated woman
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2020, 06:31:26 PM »
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  • I am in my 60's, and all of the great and rich business men I have known and worked with in my life did not possess a college degree. There are innumerable intelligent people in this world that never got a college degree. I've known many great and rich business men that didn't even have a high school diploma. My wife has homeschooled out children from K-12 and she does not have a college degree.  
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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #16 on: October 27, 2020, 06:34:47 PM »
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  • I am a college educated woman who works in a male-dominated field (I fell into this by accident because of my skills in Excel).  I went to college AFTER I became a single mother and it was online university.  My student loan debt is astronomical and I suspect the degree might have been unnecessary for my job.  My career began after my husband left me so that was not an issue in the split.  But I was working before we married and I always suspected my quitting caused great resentment in him.  He never paid child support or visited the children either (he went underground and has since died).

    I want to warn women who are considering pursing a college degree and career of something they may not have considered.  I have been the target of shiftless men (spotty job history, weak or non-practicing Catholics, addicts) who style themselves the love of my life but eventually have outed themselves as parasites.  
    You were married outside of the Church?
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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #17 on: October 27, 2020, 07:28:22 PM »
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  • That was me, Last Tradhican.
    I don't doubt that your wife is an intelligent lady, and that she did a good job of homeschooling your children.  It was just my preference to get a college education, and my wife has one as well.  When we were together, we had our issues, but educational and intellectual imbalance wasn't one of them --- she finished college after we married, and she was a more diligent student than I ever thought about being.  The lady reads voraciously.

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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #18 on: October 27, 2020, 08:08:49 PM »
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  • You were married outside of the Church?
    No.  But he divorced me and then died later.  He never wanted to be involved with them.

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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #19 on: October 28, 2020, 05:10:10 AM »
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  • When my parents met, my mother had graduated from secretarial school and had taken two years of business math in college.  She was also six years older than my father, an enlisted man “on his way up” in the US Navy.  He’d gone straight from high school into the service.  Mom worked for the electric company and made a tidy income that supported not only herself, but her mother and grandmother.  She was co-owner of the house.  No attempt was made to hide her education or income.  She was teased about being a cradle-robber and my Dad was accused of being a male gold-digger.  They married after a two year courtship.  By then, Dad had made Chief P.O.  Mom worked for a year after they got married and quit once they purchased a house.  She stayed home to raise us, only returning to a paying job part time when the youngest was in high school.  It was during the post WWII boom when you could actually buy a house, support a wife and children, and live close to NYC on one working man’s income.  The house was modest, two bedrooms, one bathroom, combined living/dining room, kitchen, unfinished basement.  We owned one car. Dad carpooled to work after he left the Navy in 1964.  He left at 7:00 and was home by 5:00 unless a special project was in the works.  He had weekends, federal holidays, two week’s vacation.  He got 10 paid sick days per year which could be saved or used, after five years, as vacation.  The job included medical insurance for the family.
    Try to live like this now on one blue-collar job!  It’s impossible.  Today, you’d be in a crappy apartment and on welfare.  You’d both be working multiple jobs, long hours, no benefits, low pay, no chance of “working your way up.”  The average income in 2017 was $211, 600.  The median home price was $649, 572.  
    My point, women who are college educated is a very minor issue contributing to young adult trads not finding a suitable marriage partner and starting a family.  There are too many societal factors at work making it extremely difficult.  And now, the stupid COVID restrictions, young people can’t meet!  Seriously, does anyone conduct a complete courtship including engagement on Zoom?  I’ve a nephew who’d like to get married, but working 16 hour days at two blue collar jobs, sometimes going 8-9 days without a day off, nowhere to actually meet someone, his social life is nonexistent.  
    Given the current state of the world, St. Paul’s advice to stay single unless doing so results in sin is probably the best option at this time.


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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #20 on: October 28, 2020, 10:51:06 AM »
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  •  The average income in 2017 was $211, 600.  The median home price was $649, 572.  
    You might have misplaced a comma there. 

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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #21 on: October 28, 2020, 10:52:45 AM »
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  • Fair enough ladies, don't go for a man that'll make you work and pay for the family home etc but you'd better bring a dowry with you in the form of savings, a deposit for a mortgage, life insurance, a piggy bank ... something. 

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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #22 on: October 28, 2020, 11:24:17 AM »
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  • Fair enough ladies, don't go for a man that'll make you work and pay for the family home etc but you'd better bring a dowry with you in the form of savings, a deposit for a mortgage, life insurance, a piggy bank ... something.
    I disagree. As a rule, if a man cannot support a family on his own, he should not get married, nor has he any business courting a woman. That's what I was told when I was a child, it made sense then, and it makes sense today. (Exceptions being if he is marrying an older woman and is not expecting children etc.)
    If a woman can contribute through family wealth or whatever, great, but that is neither a pressure nor an obligation to be placed on a woman. She has other very serious obligations, but money is not one of them.


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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #23 on: October 28, 2020, 01:24:34 PM »
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  • I disagree. As a rule, if a man cannot support a family on his own, he should not get married, nor has he any business courting a woman. That's what I was told when I was a child, it made sense then, and it makes sense today. (Exceptions being if he is marrying an older woman and is not expecting children etc.)
    If a woman can contribute through family wealth or whatever, great, but that is neither a pressure nor an obligation to be placed on a woman. She has other very serious obligations, but money is not one of them.
    If we knew how old you were it might help put that into context. Up until the 1970s a family supported by a single income could purchase a home a car and live a reasonable lifestyle. This no longer applies. Times change, so do customs. If a woman isn't going to contribute economically then she has no business getting married. Let's all just let trads die out because we want to cling to outdated customs. 

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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #24 on: October 28, 2020, 01:39:18 PM »
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  • When a man tries to live with a wife and ten children on one salary he is competing with thousands of other couple who both work with no, or one child. Since they compete to raise the cost of living, it makes it hard for normal people who are not rich to live in many areas of the country without having two incomes.

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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #25 on: October 28, 2020, 04:26:17 PM »
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  • If we knew how old you were it might help put that into context. Up until the 1970s a family supported by a single income could purchase a home a car and live a reasonable lifestyle. This no longer applies. Times change, so do customs. If a woman isn't going to contribute economically then she has no business getting married. Let's all just let trads die out because we want to cling to outdated customs.
    Croix? Is that you? 


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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #26 on: October 28, 2020, 07:24:10 PM »
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  • If we knew how old you were it might help put that into context. Up until the 1970s a family supported by a single income could purchase a home a car and live a reasonable lifestyle. This no longer applies. Times change, so do customs. If a woman isn't going to contribute economically then she has no business getting married. Let's all just let trads die out because we want to cling to outdated customs.
    This. So many trads play into the Jєωs' hands.

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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #27 on: November 01, 2020, 12:51:07 PM »
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  • Any advice on how I can get one of these college-educated trad women to marry and support me? I want to be a stay-at-home dad.

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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #28 on: November 01, 2020, 01:22:07 PM »
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  • Any advice on how I can get one of these college-educated trad women to marry and support me? I want to be a stay-at-home dad.
    Sounds like a deal, but few men could do it without going squirrelly. Women and men have their strengths and weaknesses, a working mom and stay at home dad would be the worst of both worlds. Like a doctor sweeping the floors at the hospital and the floor sweeps doing brain surgery.
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    Re: Warning from a college educated woman
    « Reply #29 on: November 01, 2020, 04:23:06 PM »
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  • Sounds like a deal, but few men could do it without going squirrelly. Women and men have their strengths and weaknesses, a working mom and stay at home dad would be the worst of both worlds. Like a doctor sweeping the floors at the hospital and the floor sweeps doing brain surgery.
    I am of the belief that "if you want it done right you must do it yourself". This includes cooking (the best chefs are men) and the education of children (the best instructors, teachers, and professors are usually men). Sure, women can take care of small children better but I have found that men, including me, can do almost everything else better. I would much rather have my wife have some BS HR job while I stay at home forming the children's temporal and spiritual lives.