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Offline Marulus Fidelis

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Re: Video of Bishop Slupski messing up episcopal consecration?
« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2023, 12:10:10 PM »
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  • Form in the video was wrong.  It appears that he was having vision problems, since he did seem competent in Latin basic on the fluency with which he pronounced the word he could read, and you could see him bending closer to the book.  Problem with this video is where it cuts off.  At the very end you can see him taking something over to the altar, bending down and examining something.  Is it possible that he realized that he messed it up and was taking it aside to read it again and then proceeded to make another attempt at it?  We can't know based on where this video was cut off.  Why was this video edited at all?  There's no reason to "hide" the identity of "those present", since episcopal consecrations are public affairs of the Church.  Is it possible that it was edited for other reasons, such as to hide a re-attempt at the form?  Could either Bishop Slupski himself or one of the MCs pointed out the defect to him, resulting in the part at the end where he looks like he's studying something at the very end, when the video is cut off?

    Whom was he consecrating a bishop at this time?
    I agree it seemed like he was going to do it again. The video cutting off seems malicious.

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    Re: Video of Bishop Slupski messing up episcopal consecration?
    « Reply #16 on: August 12, 2023, 12:24:08 PM »
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  • I agree it seemed like he was going to do it again. The video cutting off seems malicious.
    There exists at least two different recordings of this attempted consecration.  It seems the posted clip comes from a recording that is chopped into multiple clips.  Perhaps someone with a copy of the other full length recording can post it?  

    There was no re-do. The man in this attempted consecration was later conditionally consecrated by a different bishop.


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    Re: Video of Bishop Slupski messing up episcopal consecration?
    « Reply #17 on: August 12, 2023, 03:25:08 PM »
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  • He botched that worse than Bp. Webster considering Bp. Slupski skips words entirely (such as "instructum") whereas Bp. Webster, for all his faults, at least said every word.

    With regards to him turning around and reading the book closely after finishing the preface (which includes the sacramental form at its conclusion), those actions would be expected for him to do so (without an MC) because at that point of the mass the rubrics state for him to turn around and go back to the altar, so he's almost certainly reading the rubrics which is why he's spending so much effort doing so in order that he knows what to do next.

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    Re: Video of Bishop Slupski messing up episcopal consecration?
    « Reply #18 on: August 12, 2023, 03:50:13 PM »
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  • There was no re-do. The man in this attempted consecration was later conditionally consecrated by a different bishop.

    Names the names, including yours, and produce the video.  I get sick and tired of Anonymous Cowards hiding their identity.  No one's going to take the word of anonymous trolls that "there was no re-do" without evidence.  Granted, without contrary evidence, this consecration was invalid, but what I mean is evidence to this Anonymous Coward's assertion that there was no "re-try" of the essential form.  As for conditional consecrations, there could be myriad reasons, such as someone suddenly deciding he has doubts about the +Thuc line, or there are some clowns that conditionally consecrated a half dozen times.

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    Re: Video of Bishop Slupski messing up episcopal consecration?
    « Reply #19 on: August 12, 2023, 03:53:43 PM »
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  • I agree it seemed like he was going to do it again. The video cutting off seems malicious.

    We only have this Anonymous troll's assertion to the contrary.  His allegation that the rubrics call for him to return to the altar is absurd, since everyone else stayed in position there, and the rubrics do not call for the bishop to put the book down on the corner of the altar and stare at it for an extended period of time.


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    Re: Video of Bishop Slupski messing up episcopal consecration?
    « Reply #20 on: August 12, 2023, 03:56:10 PM »
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  • He botched that worse than Bp. Webster considering Bp. Slupski skips words entirely (such as "instructum") whereas Bp. Webster, for all his faults, at least said every word.

    +Webster only said "every word" if you don't count the fact he substituted the wrong words.  +Slupski did the same thing with mysterium for ministerium.

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    Re: Video of Bishop Slupski messing up episcopal consecration?
    « Reply #21 on: August 14, 2023, 03:14:00 PM »
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  • Bishop Slupski, one who ordains married men to the priesthood.  One being Dr. Thomas Drowlesky.
    Can you provide any docuмentation for Dr. Drowleski [sic] being ordained to the priesthood?  I haven't seen anything at Dr. Droleskey's site concerning this.

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    Re: Video of Bishop Slupski messing up episcopal consecration?
    « Reply #22 on: August 14, 2023, 04:12:37 PM »
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  • Can you provide any docuмentation for Dr. Drowleski [sic] being ordained to the priesthood?  I haven't seen anything at Dr. Droleskey's site concerning this.

    Seems to be some unconfirmed and highly dubious rumor.

    https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/is-dr-droleskey-a-priest/



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    Re: Video of Bishop Slupski messing up episcopal consecration?
    « Reply #24 on: August 14, 2023, 05:06:43 PM »
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  • Bishop Frank Slupski Died: May 14, 2018 « Catholic Endtime Truths

    Yes, I know ... but that thread was from 2013, when the rumors were already circulating.