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« on: November 01, 2013, 12:05:19 PM »
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  • Do you allow your children play video games?  Or do you as a grown up play them yourself?


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    « Reply #1 on: November 01, 2013, 12:19:26 PM »
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  • Myself, I prefer writing them to playing them. I just don't have time to waste playing video games.

    I'm starting to branch out into writing desktop/Android games for a living, so my 2 older kids get to be "beta testers". The game I'm currently writing is for kids anyhow. I'm a child of my time, so I still prefer 2D old school or "retro" type games. (Think: Final Fantasy II or any Super Nintendo game.)

    My "older" kids (the ones who have lost at least 1 tooth) also sometimes play browser games on Highlights or Cat in the Hat.

    But they have to be somewhat educational and/or completely innocent. But they also have to be considered a treat. Not the default mode of entertainment. They don't get to plop down in front of the screen whenever they want all day long. My kids have to know how to play, how to amuse themselves, how to pray, how to help with household chores, how to exercise, and they can't have their imaginations stunted.

    Also, there is a minimum age for "screens". Below a certain age, screens do absolutely no good, and only harm a child's developing brain and imagination.

    If you haven't seen this famous video, it's only 1.5 minutes, I IMPLORE you to do so:



    The toddler in the video can't work a good-old-fashioned magazine, but he can work an iPad. Imagine the long-term damage to this poor young human being!

    More is not always better.

    Learning how to use PCs at age 10 or 15 is fine. Learning how at 2 years old won't "give them an edge", it will simply mess them up. Period!

    Baby Einstein videos can go rot in hell. (Sure enough, who owns Baby Einstein? Disney! Even the heretic Baptists know that Disney is evil.) Along with all "toddler" games available on tablets/phones. You know, the ones where they teach "colors" and keep it simple, because "what else can a 2 year old handle?" I'll tell you what they can handle -- being offline. Don't ruin the kid's brain.
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    « Reply #2 on: November 01, 2013, 01:24:20 PM »
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  • I like video games, I play them, my kids play them. We have a lot of rules regarding them. Mine probably play them once every two weeks, myself more so in the winter when we are stuck inside.

    They are cost efficient for a big family. No piece to lose, hours of play, different scenarios and strategies. They last a long time and almost everyone in the household who is old enough can play. Our board games, which we also love to play, take up a ton more space.

    Are there better things to do? Yep. If we are playing video games we either don't have enough time/space for a long project or everything to be done that is better, has been done and we are tired and want to relax with minimal effort.

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    « Reply #3 on: November 01, 2013, 02:19:29 PM »
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  • I have an easy time not playing video games (written by others), for the following reasons:

    1. They don't make any games I'm interested in. I got into video games as a 15 year old -- but that was the early 90's. To this day, I prefer 2D.

    2. I don't like spending money on video games (I did enough of that when I was 16)

    3. If I only play free ones, I have learned that most Android and other "free" games try to coax you to spend real money at some point, in order to fully experience the game. A lot of them are borderline scams, wastes of time, or "virtual slavery" where you do mindless "quests" to get "achievements" but the game isn't actually very fun. They are more like some kind of hamster wheel or toy.

    In conclusion, the only thing that would tempt me is an older game like Final Fantasy II, or maybe Final Fantasy V which was only released in Japan. But those games aren't exactly easy to come by.
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    « Reply #4 on: November 01, 2013, 02:45:30 PM »
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  • There is a good game called "Sid Meirs Alpha Centauri" and in it you build a civilization. It is a 2d game and you play as one of 7 factions on an alien world trying to colonise it. One of the factions is called "The Lords Believers" and all their cities have Christian names. They get a +25% advantage "when attacking enemies from strength of convictions".

    Buy the game from "Gog.com" 7$ Demo game is available too.

    ( 20 more posts like this one and I might earn a few $ myself )


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    « Reply #5 on: November 01, 2013, 05:21:05 PM »
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  • Don't have kids, but I play them as a "grown up."  

    Naturally, the morality of them depends entirely on the content and the amount spent on them.  Video games are naturally more time consuming than board games (well, most board games anyways).  What Matthew said about not letting them become the default form of entertainment is very true.

    There are a lot of filthy video games out there, and the amount of them is increasing.  I prefer to play strategy/wargames like Total War (Rome or Medeival) and Company of Heroes.  I also like "fantasy" games provided that they have an end goal-- a game like world of warcraft is just an indefinite alternate reality for people live in-- bad idea.  However, fantasy games with quests pointing your character towards a specific end are entertaining, especially for those of us who enjoy lore and fictional histories.  

    Sports games are fun, and you don't have to worry about the religiosity and the commercials that comes with watching sports on TV.
    "Be kind; do not seek the malicious satisfaction of having discovered an additional enemy to the Church... And, above all, be scrupulously truthful. To all, friends and foes alike, give that serious attention which does not misrepresent any opinion, does not distort any statement, does not mutilate any quotation. We need not fear to serve the cause of Christ less efficiently by putting on His spirit". (Vermeersch, 1913).

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    « Reply #6 on: November 01, 2013, 05:33:16 PM »
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  • I let mine play a game and visit a game forum.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 01, 2013, 05:44:59 PM »
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  • What age should children get introduced to video games and other electronic devices?


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    « Reply #8 on: November 01, 2013, 05:46:37 PM »
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  • Our priest said playing video games is a waste of time at best, but I think it really depends on the game content, just like books or movies.

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    « Reply #9 on: November 01, 2013, 05:55:41 PM »
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  • Quote from: Matthew
    Myself, I prefer writing them to playing them. I just don't have time to waste playing video games.

    I'm starting to branch out into writing desktop/Android games for a living, so my 2 older kids get to be "beta testers". The game I'm currently writing is for kids anyhow. I'm a child of my time, so I still prefer 2D old school or "retro" type games. (Think: Final Fantasy II or any Super Nintendo game.)



    Are you planning to sell these games? if so, how do you m arket them?

    I have found it is rather difficult to make a living as an independent game developer or small indie studio, unless you work for a mega corporation like Microsoft or get hired by a successful gaming company.

    How can you make any real money making video games / educational simulations from home?

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    « Reply #10 on: November 01, 2013, 07:44:02 PM »
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    What age should children get introduced to video games and other electronic devices?
    I never is a good time!


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    « Reply #11 on: November 02, 2013, 01:08:08 PM »
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    Myself, I prefer writing them to playing them. I just don't have time to waste playing video games.

    I'm starting to branch out into writing desktop/Android games for a living, so my 2 older kids get to be "beta testers". The game I'm currently writing is for kids anyhow. I'm a child of my time, so I still prefer 2D old school or "retro" type games. (Think: Final Fantasy II or any Super Nintendo game.)



    Are you planning to sell these games? if so, how do you m arket them?

    I have found it is rather difficult to make a living as an independent game developer or small indie studio, unless you work for a mega corporation like Microsoft or get hired by a successful gaming company.

    How can you make any real money making video games / educational simulations from home?


    I didn't know we had an indie game developer in our midst!
     :pc:

    It is still in my future, and thus still a mystery, though I have *plenty* of ideas about how I'm going to get the word out.

    I'm not a firstly a gamer, then a programmer. It's the other way around. My enjoyment comes from programming, problem solving, and bringing a game to completion, then my second wave of enjoyment is promoting it and seeing how well it can do. I love creating something, and for me I am most proficient at the art of software development. So that's the best way for me to express my creativity.

    Some indie developers seem to be firstly "gamers" -- they really like games to begin with, they manage to write some games, but they quickly move on to the next game for whatever reason without spending much time marketing. Maybe they just don't have a knack for marketing? I've heard several of them admit, "I submitted it to a few app stores, and that was pretty much it."

    Well, in short, that doesn't describe me. I'm the businessman and the programmer rolled into one person.

    To answer your question --

    There's the situation 20 years ago, and then there's today. When I first started writing games (few got finished, I must sadly admit) as a teenager, there wasn't much chance for a little guy to get exposure sufficient to market a game successfully. Unless you got published by one of the big guys, you were invisible. This was in the days before the Internet.

    But today, we have app stores where people are accustomed to buy smaller games for $1 or $2, or even free (with embedded ads). Moreover, the modern plague of "3D, full motion video, or it's not a viable, professional game" is put on hold for the world of Tablet/phone games. Perfect for indie developers!  I got very excited about this a couple years ago, and finally dove in last summer.

    The game library I'm using makes it easy to target Desktop (windows/mac/linux) and Android at the same time, with no extra programming. So I'll have a Desktop version as a bonus. Though in my case, my game is VERY desktop-centric. It's going to have 2 player split-screen with full joystick support. But even though it's desktop-centric, I have to make sure it plays well on Android, since that's the world of "I'm willing to pay $1 for a small game". On Desktop, who knows.
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    « Reply #12 on: November 10, 2013, 02:34:16 PM »
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  • Yeah. I rarely play them though, they get boring after a while. Old School Runescape and Dwarf Fortress are good tho.   :dancing-banana: :dancing-banana: :dancing-banana:

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    « Reply #13 on: November 10, 2013, 05:39:15 PM »
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  • I played them as a teenager. They no longer interest me at 26 and I'm opposed to them, even the relatively decent ones.

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    « Reply #14 on: November 10, 2013, 05:44:06 PM »
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    Yeah. I rarely play them though, they get boring after a while. Old School Runescape and Dwarf Fortress are good tho.   :dancing-banana: :dancing-banana: :dancing-banana:


    How does it feel being a boy instead of a man? :cool:

    By the way "hip-hop lover, metal lover, hard rock lover, cultural modernist and Internet lover" have you gone insane yet listening and watching all of that vile garbage? :wink:

    Our modern world is the product of left-wing ideology especially liberalism and no real Catholic could support such things.