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very difficult situation
« on: August 06, 2013, 07:33:37 AM »
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  • am advising someone. his wife unable to have any more children. to do so would put both her and the baby in mortal danger. wife is on prescription bc pill not to prevent children but because period is literally crippling for her. untreated her period lays her in bed unable to walk or care for family for most of the month. wife was on bc for period but stopped at times to conceive children before the most serious medical problems developed.

    relations are otherwise normal and always involve the procreative act. if she stops pill she must abstain from relations but will not be able to function as mother homemaker and wife because of severe period. if she remains on pill is abstinence from relations the only acceptable choice? person is not catholic but agrees that bc for the sake of preventing children is wrong.


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    very difficult situation
    « Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 01:17:29 PM »
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  • Not  enough info.  BC is more crippling than period which last a few days at most. No age is mentioned. Nothing is mentioned as to why BC is so important.  And I can see why no one else has answered or posted this issue.


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    very difficult situation
    « Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 01:19:08 PM »
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    Not  enough info.  BC is more crippling than period which last a few days at most. No age is mentioned. Nothing is mentioned as to why BC is so important.  And I can see why no one else has answered or posted this issue.


    I heard there were other and better means than BC pill to cope with bad periods.  

    Hypothetically a women could use it for that reason if she was sɛҳuąƖly inactive.  But not if she is sɛҳuąƖly active no matter what the reason.  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    very difficult situation
    « Reply #3 on: August 06, 2013, 01:20:27 PM »
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    Not  enough info.  BC is more crippling than period which last a few days at most. No age is mentioned. Nothing is mentioned as to why BC is so important.  And I can see why no one else has answered or posted this issue.


    I heard there were other and better means than BC pill to cope with bad periods.  

    Hypothetically a women could use it for that reason if she was sɛҳuąƖly inactive.  But not if she is sɛҳuąƖly active no matter what the reason.  


    The main stream medical field loves pushing the pill and they make so much off it.  It has countless side effects that are very serious, such as death.  It is a terrible drug in every way imaginable.  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    very difficult situation
    « Reply #4 on: August 06, 2013, 01:21:36 PM »
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    Not  enough info.  BC is more crippling than period which last a few days at most. No age is mentioned. Nothing is mentioned as to why BC is so important.  And I can see why no one else has answered or posted this issue.


    I heard there were other and better means than BC pill to cope with bad periods.  

    Hypothetically a women could use it for that reason if she was sɛҳuąƖly inactive.  But not if she is sɛҳuąƖly active no matter what the reason.  


    The main stream medical field loves pushing the pill and they make so much off it.  It has countless side effects that are very serious, such as death.  It is a terrible drug in every way imaginable.  


    Hey look I'm getting closer to having more critics than likers.  I've been working at it today.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    very difficult situation
    « Reply #5 on: August 06, 2013, 01:27:32 PM »
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    am advising someone. his wife unable to have any more children. to do so would put both her and the baby in mortal danger. wife is on prescription bc pill not to prevent children but because period is literally crippling for her. untreated her period lays her in bed unable to walk or care for family for most of the month. wife was on bc for period but stopped at times to conceive children before the most serious medical problems developed.

    relations are otherwise normal and always involve the procreative act. if she stops pill she must abstain from relations but will not be able to function as mother homemaker and wife because of severe period. if she remains on pill is abstinence from relations the only acceptable choice? person is not catholic but agrees that bc for the sake of preventing children is wrong.


    The pill also has lasting effects.  Please have them do a search for natural or better means for coping with crippling periods.  Back when I looked into the topic I thought they were out there.  The internet can be quite valuable.

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    very difficult situation
    « Reply #6 on: August 06, 2013, 01:59:40 PM »
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  • The wife must get off the pill, no matter what.  And the wife should confess this sin immediately.

    Perhaps a strictly vegetarian or natural style diet should be for the wife.

    Consult a specialist, but if three specialists in a row recommend the pill then view this malady as a cross to be beared.  Bear it!

    Sometimes there is no way around a difficult situation and if the wife gives herself over to the Sacred Heart and let all her suffering be in reparation to the Sacred Heart.

    The only real alternative is to engage in morally disasterous behavior.


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    « Reply #7 on: August 06, 2013, 05:51:09 PM »
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  • I'd go see a reproductive endocrinologist for a second opinion, as well as have him run a hormonal panel, and then see if there is something that can be done in order to control the issues with less or a less dangerous medication.


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    « Reply #8 on: August 06, 2013, 05:56:09 PM »
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  • Perhaps this might help?

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    http://www.all.org/nav/index/heading/OQ/cat/Mzc/id/NjgyMg/

    Non-Steroidal Anti-Inflammatory Drugs (or NSAIDS) of which Ibuprofen is the most commonly known. Ibuprofen acts to actually stop the production of those pain-causing compounds we saw earlier: prostaglandins. A typical prescription dose is 600-800 mg. three times daily. Taken during menstruation this will be beneficial for most women. It is as simple as taking 3-4 Advil three times daily during menstruation.

    Natural progesterone given cooperatively with a woman’s cycle may actually reduce the amount of pain and bleeding a woman has in any cycle by supporting her body with natural progesterone, just like her body produces in the second half of her monthly cycle. This hormone is available everywhere by prescription in the form of a product called Prometrium.

    This natural hormone has NONE of the risks of birth control pills and actually makes most women feel better as opposed to most women getting ill with their first few cycles of birth control pills. For women charting their cycles with NFP (Natural Family Planning) this is given Peak + 3 through Peak + 12 at 200 mg. taken by mouth at night before retiring. This will help to oppose the effects of estrogen that may be building up the lining of a woman’s uterus excessively, thereby reducing the cramping at menstruation.

    Natural progesterone is also a smooth muscle relaxant having direct effects on the smooth muscles of the uterus reducing their contractions and thereby decreasing the pain. Again, there are NO KNOWN risks or complications with the use of natural progesterone. The product Prometrium is in a Peanut oil base and so women allergic to peanuts cannot use Prometrium and may need a pharmacist to compound a progesterone capsule for them without peanut oil elements.

    Supplemental calcium at about 1,000 mg. per day (use a chelated form- it is more absorbable) is also helpful to decrease smooth muscle contractions. This can be taken every day along with other supplemental vitamins a woman may take. It is safe through pregnancy as well.

    Flax Seed Oil at about 1,000 mg. day may also be helpful. Flax Seed Oil is a good source of Essential Fatty Acids (EFA’s) which are probably deficient in modern diets. These EFA’s are necessary for the production of the body’s hormones in both men and women and they may be able to boost a woman’s hormone levels that are deficient and causing various cycle abnormalities including pain and abnormal bleeding.

    Diet and exercise cannot be emphasized enough and should be at the top of the list but these are usually the last things a patient wants to hear from their doctor. I encourage women to read Marilyn Shannon’s excellent book: Fertility Cycles and Nutrition as a good primer in this area. I also encourage my patients to engage in regular exercise at least 30-40 minutes 4-5 times per week. The research is very clear that exercise reduces pain in chronic pain states, decreases anxiety, burns fat and promotes a general sense of well-being. Regular exercise should become as important a part of our routine as prayer.

    This review has addressed the normal aspects associated with painful and/or irregular menstruation for most women. Pain can additionally be caused by certain diseased states like Endometriosis that require further evaluation and possible surgery. The above alternatives to birth control pill use are for all women to be able to use in correcting various cycle abnormalities but if these modalities have little to no effect on the problems after about 3-6 cycles, further medical evaluation needs to be considered.

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    very difficult situation
    « Reply #9 on: August 06, 2013, 06:50:02 PM »
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    Not  enough info.  BC is more crippling than period which last a few days at most. No age is mentioned. Nothing is mentioned as to why BC is so important.  And I can see why no one else has answered or posted this issue.
    problems can last longer like fatigue. Bc is not good but it can help symptoms. my advice 4 adjust life -Buy paper plates, plastic forks ,do all laundry, grocery shop, make sure have sandwich stuff since mom canT cook _before date. When my son was little I had room child proofEd would shut door had bed on floor he could play while I layed down. would just get up to do things 4 him. No luck with natural remedies :-( tried 4 20 years. Can be real problem if caught in public public when pain starts and have to drive home with no Advil, always keep Advil in purse. Wal-Mart has generic $1.if u have kids game you can't miss try not to drive and bring extra Advil.coke helps with nausea, keep some in pantry. Hard on older kids too they can be bored. Frozen veg stir fry is fast meal u can keep in freezer no prep required make noodles not rice HTH

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    « Reply #10 on: August 06, 2013, 07:07:02 PM »
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  • Please look up Fr. Kevin Robinson, SSPX.  He has spoken of an Australian ob/gyn who is a trad. Catholic AND one of the best ob/gyns in Australia.  Hopefully, Fr. can advise on the spiritual matter and connect you with this physician.  Fr. Robinson is in Australia, or on the way there at present, Aug. 6th.  He is normally reached via St. Ignatius Retreat House, Ridgefield, CT.  The number is 203-431-0201.  
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.