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« on: June 06, 2025, 11:34:27 PM »
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  • So I'm currently thinking about doing a store transfer at my work to somewhere slightly closer to home (about 5 minutes less drive). Mainly I want more consistent hours, I already get decent hours at my current workplace but it's added hours and not a strong base contract. They other store has yet to tell me what they can offer me.

    I am also biased here as there is a cute teenage girl who comes in who likes me (i know because I heard her friend say "I can see why you like him", and she always smiles and touches her hair when she see me). Franky I've never had a girl like me (that I was aware off), I wasn't too the best looking when I was younger so I missed out on having a cute teenage girlfriend, but now I have grown into a decent looking guy. i dont know anything about her, whether she is unvaxxed or not, her beliefs etc, but if I transfer I will never know.

    It's not about her age (it is a big + though) but mainly she is cute and likes me. I learnt a long time ago it doesn't matter if you like a girl or do stuff for her, if she doesn't find you attractive then you are cooked.

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    Re: Unsure what to do
    « Reply #1 on: June 06, 2025, 11:46:29 PM »
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  • You obviously need to get her contact.

    You can ask for her number next time she comes and then call her to set up a date after a few days. Nothing fancy, please. Then you can get to know her better, as you go out on more dates if you are still both interested. Just go out to some coffee shop and talk for a while. Nothing behind closed doors, of course.

    Chances are that she is not a fantastic and virtuous Catholic woman, but at least you will learn how to deal with women a little bit. You just need to take care not to sin with her.

    You can't keep away from a better job just because you get a cute customer now. If she really likes you, she will go out with you at least once to know you a little better, but you need to make the first move.


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    Re: Unsure what to do
    « Reply #2 on: June 07, 2025, 02:51:20 AM »
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  • You obviously need to get her contact.

    You can ask for her number next time she comes and then call her to set up a date after a few days. Nothing fancy, please. Then you can get to know her better, as you go out on more dates if you are still both interested. Just go out to some coffee shop and talk for a while. Nothing behind closed doors, of course.

    Chances are that she is not a fantastic and virtuous Catholic woman, but at least you will learn how to deal with women a little bit. You just need to take care not to sin with her.

    You can't keep away from a better job just because you get a cute customer now. If she really likes you, she will go out with you at least once to know you a little better, but you need to make the first move.
    The only issue is that there is a Catholic girl I like who is unvaxxed, and frankly more attractive than this secular girl, however she is only a few years older. 

    But, I don't know if she likes me, and since I'm a big bad feeneynite I don't think she will accept for or her parents may not like me because of my strong beliefs.

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    Re: Unsure what to do
    « Reply #3 on: June 07, 2025, 04:29:21 AM »
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  • You obviously need to get her contact.

    You can ask for her number next time she comes and then call her to set up a date after a few days. Nothing fancy, please. Then you can get to know her better, as you go out on more dates if you are still both interested. Just go out to some coffee shop and talk for a while. Nothing behind closed doors, of course.

    Chances are that she is not a fantastic and virtuous Catholic woman, but at least you will learn how to deal with women a little bit. You just need to take care not to sin with her.

    You can't keep away from a better job just because you get a cute customer now. If she really likes you, she will go out with you at least once to know you a little better, but you need to make the first move.
    Good advice, really couldn't hurt to go on a date in a public place. Just don't get your hopes up, there's probably a 0.05% chance she'll convert to trad Catholicism if she is secular
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    Re: Unsure what to do
    « Reply #4 on: June 07, 2025, 10:00:30 AM »
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  • The only issue is that there is a Catholic girl I like who is unvaxxed, and frankly more attractive than this secular girl, however she is only a few years older.

    But, I don't know if she likes me, and since I'm a big bad feeneynite I don't think she will accept for or her parents may not like me because of my strong beliefs.

    It is harder to make it work with older women.

    I don't think you should label yourself like this. You might be big, but you are not bad. I don't see how being a "feeneyte" is a deal breaker, unless you have an extreme mentality yourself. You don't even have to bring it up when you meet a girl's family.

    Either way, if you go out on a date with the pretty younger girl, it does not mean that you are blowing your chances with all the other women in the world. You just go and talk to her for a while. It's not engagement, it's not marriage, it's only a date. If you don't like each other, you simply go on with your lives and meet other people.


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    Re: Unsure what to do
    « Reply #5 on: June 07, 2025, 11:54:42 AM »
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    I missed out on having a cute teenage girlfriend

    This is the red flag here. Also, you use gen Z lingo like "cooked" but you say you're older? Are you sure you're not LARPing as an older person, and making up this whole thing?

    I think the answer is clear. Women in their prime of beauty are attractive and desirable, for all ages of men. The question is, should you give them a second thought, or is it like driving past a 10 million dollar mansion: "Wow! look at that house! I wonder what it would be like to live in a place like that. Oh well" and you drive on, not giving it a second thought, and certainly not obsessing over it, letting it ruin your life. The fact is, most men will die before ever owning a $10 million piece of property. That is reality, that is life, and the happy ones are the ones who can accept that reality.

    People have to adjust their expectations to reality all the time. Remember, everyone (worldwide) thinks that young, beautiful, white women are 1st tier. But over 90% of the world has to look at themselves in the mirror and say, "I'll never get one". They didn't exactly win the genetic lottery, and they know it. A few hard-working and ambitious ones end up becoming rich, and sometimes achieving many of their "dreams" -- including buying that $10 million property, or marrying a woman of top-tier beauty.

    But you don't need a $10 million mansion to be happy, and you don't need a "10" on the looks scale to be happy either.

    A lesser version of this applies even to white men. They also have to be realistic and not be constantly shooting for the stars in everything. Think of all the OTHER physical attributes in this life besides race (i.e., height, weight, looks, wealth, intellect, social prowess, etc.) that you might not be "maxed out" in, stats-wise.

    Moral of the story: we ALL have to be realistic, and 99.99% of people have to "settle" to SOME degree in just about every category in life. Learning to do this is KEY to being even somewhat happy in this valley of tears.

    But moving on to the most important point: letting your attraction to this teen girl be more than a passing fancy. I feel your pain; I was there myself and I don't care how many years ago it was. I remember it like it was yesterday (I have a good memory). But if there's one thing I'd slap my younger self over, not being afraid how it would affect me/the future, it would be this. Don't drool, obsess over, or give more than a passing thought to non-Catholic women! It isn't going to work.

    Just think about how you wouldn't get along. Yeah, she's cute/gorgeous/feminine/sweet/hot/etc. and seems to be your type. That is literally infatuation by the way. Unless reason is involved, it's infatuation. Infatuation is superficial, just about surface qualities and mostly looks. You know *nothing* about her aside from the fact she's a decently feminine and attractive girl.

    You need to do an exercise -- start asking yourself some important questions: Would she start wearing skirts/dresses full time? Would she convert to the Catholic Faith? Would she continue to wear shorts like she's wearing right now? Would she insist on working -- after all, you met her while she was at work (not saying this applies in your specific case, but it usually does)? Is she a liberal? Is she open to having a large family, using no birth control? Is she *at all* open to Traditional Catholicism? How was she raised? What are her values? How much virtue does she have? Can she cook/clean/take care of children? Does she know ANY of the domestic arts? Would she make a good mother for your children? Does she fear God? How much feminism has she been taught, part of who she is, in her very bones? How worldly is she? Would she spend you into poverty, even if she DID convert and marry you? If she doesn't have established virtue (fearing God, mortification, etc.) then she could easily cheat on you and/or divorce-rape you in 7, 10, or 15 years. A leopard can't change his spots.

    And if you're a real Trad, there are even more obstacles. What would she think of you, if she knew all your positions and beliefs? Would she be able to oppose the whole world (with you) on things like vaccinations, the holocoaster, the spicy flu, public school, the mainstream media, etc.? Is she a fan of hollywood movies, TV, NASA, and Neil Degrasse Tyson? (Yuck!) see, it would never work. No pretty face is worth that.

    Yeah -- that's got to be a huge wet blanket. Sorry to be a party pooper and I don't want to depress or blackpill you, but when you aren't clouded by infatuation, the answer is pretty clear. Statistically, you'd be more likely to find $10,000 on the street than to find a random "pagan" beauty who is just one single thirtysomething Trad man away from becoming a great, modestly dressed, virtuous Trad Catholic mom of 10.

    I'm a married man but rarely I'll encounter a beautiful young lady who is feminine, and if I feel any tug of attraction I just run through that list of questions. It helps put out the fires of attraction at the source. Actually my list of questions is a bit different -- I'm married, I have a family, etc. But I think the concept is sound: engage your rational brain, and help your self realize why it would never work. Just admire God's creation and move on. The less you think about it (much less obsess over it) the better.

    TL;DR - You need to look at the big picture, not just her clear, fair skin and symmetrical face.
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    Re: Unsure what to do
    « Reply #6 on: June 07, 2025, 04:13:59 PM »
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  • Why is it that men ask these types of anonymous questions on CI and the women don't?

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  • Why is it that men ask these types of anonymous questions on CI and the women don't?

    100% a woman would ask this in the Women's forum.

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    « Reply #8 on: June 07, 2025, 04:32:29 PM »
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  • 100% a woman would ask this in the Women's forum.

    Ok let me rephrase my question, because I think I did not give enough information.

    I have not seen the women talk about these situations (see OP quoted below) anywhere on the CI forum in my almost two years of being here.  Why do men ask for input on dating and women don't?  Maybe because there are not many single women looking for marriage on CI (just my guess).


    So I'm currently thinking about doing a store transfer at my work to somewhere slightly closer to home (about 5 minutes less drive). Mainly I want more consistent hours, I already get decent hours at my current workplace but it's added hours and not a strong base contract. They other store has yet to tell me what they can offer me.

    I am also biased here as there is a cute teenage girl who comes in who likes me (i know because I heard her friend say "I can see why you like him", and she always smiles and touches her hair when she see me). Franky I've never had a girl like me (that I was aware off), I wasn't too the best looking when I was younger so I missed out on having a cute teenage girlfriend, but now I have grown into a decent looking guy. i dont know anything about her, whether she is unvaxxed or not, her beliefs etc, but if I transfer I will never know.

    It's not about her age (it is a big + though) but mainly she is cute and likes me. I learnt a long time ago it doesn't matter if you like a girl or do stuff for her, if she doesn't find you attractive then you are cooked.
    1 Corinthians: Chapter 13 "4 Charity is patient, is kind: charity envieth not, dealeth not perversely; is not puffed up; 5 Is not ambitious, seeketh not her own, is not provoked to anger, thinketh no evil;"

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  • if she doesn't find you attractive then you are cooked.

    You gave yourself away. There is no chance the OP is over 25.

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  • It is harder to make it work with older women.

    I don't think you should label yourself like this. You might be big, but you are not bad. I don't see how being a "feeneyte" is a deal breaker, unless you have an extreme mentality yourself. You don't even have to bring it up when you meet a girl's family.

    Either way, if you go out on a date with the pretty younger girl, it does not mean that you are blowing your chances with all the other women in the world. You just go and talk to her for a while. It's not engagement, it's not marriage, it's only a date. If you don't like each other, you simply go on with your lives and meet other people.
    I meant she is older than the other teen, one is mid teens (I'm not certain) the other is late teens.

    Since I believe in EENS and not BoD/BoB I feel this will be an issue in raising children, eventually it will come up. Should I just not mention it before marriage? That feels wrong.


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  • This is the red flag here. Also, you use gen Z lingo like "cooked" but you say you're older? Are you sure you're not LARPing as an older person, and making up this whole thing?

    I think the answer is clear. Women in their prime of beauty are attractive and desirable, for all ages of men. The question is, should you give them a second thought, or is it like driving past a 10 million dollar mansion: "Wow! look at that house! I wonder what it would be like to live in a place like that. Oh well" and you drive on, not giving it a second thought, and certainly not obsessing over it, letting it ruin your life. The fact is, most men will die before ever owning a $10 million piece of property. That is reality, that is life, and the happy ones are the ones who can accept that reality.

    People have to adjust their expectations to reality all the time. Remember, everyone (worldwide) thinks that young, beautiful, white women are 1st tier. But over 90% of the world has to look at themselves in the mirror and say, "I'll never get one". They didn't exactly win the genetic lottery, and they know it. A few hard-working and ambitious ones end up becoming rich, and sometimes achieving many of their "dreams" -- including buying that $10 million property, or marrying a woman of top-tier beauty.

    But you don't need a $10 million mansion to be happy, and you don't need a "10" on the looks scale to be happy either.

    A lesser version of this applies even to white men. They also have to be realistic and not be constantly shooting for the stars in everything. Think of all the OTHER physical attributes in this life besides race (i.e., height, weight, looks, wealth, intellect, social prowess, etc.) that you might not be "maxed out" in, stats-wise.

    Moral of the story: we ALL have to be realistic, and 99.99% of people have to "settle" to SOME degree in just about every category in life. Learning to do this is KEY to being even somewhat happy in this valley of tears.

    But moving on to the most important point: letting your attraction to this teen girl be more than a passing fancy. I feel your pain; I was there myself and I don't care how many years ago it was. I remember it like it was yesterday (I have a good memory). But if there's one thing I'd slap my younger self over, not being afraid how it would affect me/the future, it would be this. Don't drool, obsess over, or give more than a passing thought to non-Catholic women! It isn't going to work.

    Just think about how you wouldn't get along. Yeah, she's cute/gorgeous/feminine/sweet/hot/etc. and seems to be your type. That is literally infatuation by the way. Unless reason is involved, it's infatuation. Infatuation is superficial, just about surface qualities and mostly looks. You know *nothing* about her aside from the fact she's a decently feminine and attractive girl.

    You need to do an exercise -- start asking yourself some important questions: Would she start wearing skirts/dresses full time? Would she convert to the Catholic Faith? Would she continue to wear shorts like she's wearing right now? Would she insist on working -- after all, you met her while she was at work (not saying this applies in your specific case, but it usually does)? Is she a liberal? Is she open to having a large family, using no birth control? Is she *at all* open to Traditional Catholicism? How was she raised? What are her values? How much virtue does she have? Can she cook/clean/take care of children? Does she know ANY of the domestic arts? Would she make a good mother for your children? Does she fear God? How much feminism has she been taught, part of who she is, in her very bones? How worldly is she? Would she spend you into poverty, even if she DID convert and marry you? If she doesn't have established virtue (fearing God, mortification, etc.) then she could easily cheat on you and/or divorce-rape you in 7, 10, or 15 years. A leopard can't change his spots.

    And if you're a real Trad, there are even more obstacles. What would she think of you, if she knew all your positions and beliefs? Would she be able to oppose the whole world (with you) on things like vaccinations, the holocoaster, the spicy flu, public school, the mainstream media, etc.? Is she a fan of hollywood movies, TV, NASA, and Neil Degrasse Tyson? (Yuck!) see, it would never work. No pretty face is worth that.

    Yeah -- that's got to be a huge wet blanket. Sorry to be a party pooper and I don't want to depress or blackpill you, but when you aren't clouded by infatuation, the answer is pretty clear. Statistically, you'd be more likely to find $10,000 on the street than to find a random "pagan" beauty who is just one single thirtysomething Trad man away from becoming a great, modestly dressed, virtuous Trad Catholic mom of 10.

    I'm a married man but rarely I'll encounter a beautiful young lady who is feminine, and if I feel any tug of attraction I just run through that list of questions. It helps put out the fires of attraction at the source. Actually my list of questions is a bit different -- I'm married, I have a family, etc. But I think the concept is sound: engage your rational brain, and help your self realize why it would never work. Just admire God's creation and move on. The less you think about it (much less obsess over it) the better.

    TL;DR - You need to look at the big picture, not just her clear, fair skin and symmetrical face.
    Thanks for your response, funnily enough the Catholic girl I like is much more attractive and she may also like me, she mentioned that everyone forgets her so I wonder if she wanted me to remember her, I told her I wouldn't forgot her.

    As for this secular girl I have thought about the questions you mentioned, just I have yet to speak with her as I am the one who was working, so unless she finds me I can't go find her. I think I just like the feeling of being liked/desired.

    Also the oldest gen z is ~28. Not exactly young. And I do understand that a good secular woman is very rare, though the most she likes you the more likely it is she will adopt your beliefs.

    It's just difficult as the Catholic girl goes to another chapel so I can't see her again unless she comes to mine, or I go out of my way to see and ask her for courtship, but I'm not ready for that, when I am I will because I really do love her (I pray for her to save her soul even if she doesn't marry me)

    As for my job I probably will probably move locations, if I see that secular girl before I move I will ask her if she took any covid injections and go from there.


    After all I don't want my children to be 'cooked' with altered DNA 'for real' 'no cap' 'bussing'. :cowboy:

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    Re: Unsure what to do
    « Reply #12 on: June 07, 2025, 05:14:54 PM »
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  • Why is it that men ask these types of anonymous questions on CI and the women don't?
    Because women have more options than men at that age. 

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    « Reply #13 on: June 07, 2025, 05:23:34 PM »
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  • Why is it that men ask these types of anonymous questions on CI and the women don't?
    Because men are supposed to pursue
    Because men are not taught things like women are
    Because men tend to seek council to make the right (rationale) decision
    Because the modern world is a lot harder on men

    I'm not a women so I have zero clue and how women deal with these things.

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  • Because men are supposed to pursue
    Because men are not taught things like women are
    Because men tend to seek council to make the right (rationale) decision
    Because the modern world is a lot harder on men

    I'm not a women so I have zero clue and how women deal with these things.
    Those are very rational answers and make sense to me.  Does a woman have anything to add?
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