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Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
« Reply #15 on: June 14, 2019, 03:35:14 PM »
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  • I live in the Phoenix area.  Fr. Leblanc had a very large building made for books that were sent to him, to save from destruction.  This is Our Lady of the Sun, in El, mirage, AZ.  The building was made in honor of Fr. Edward O'Connor.

    Prayers have brought you to this point.  Someone will surely desire your books and to take good care of them.


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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #16 on: June 15, 2019, 02:18:49 PM »
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  • About the books that need a home, by chance do you have a traditional church near you.  Some people give their religious belongings to a church and the parishioners buy them and the donations go to the church. 


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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #17 on: June 16, 2019, 09:37:07 PM »
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  • And also, tell anyone that believes that Muslims and Catholics worship the same God that it's the mortal sin of blasphemy. To claim that Allah is God is to deny the Holy Trinity.

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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #18 on: June 17, 2019, 02:04:28 AM »
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  • Then tell E. Michael Jones, because he thinks Muslims worship the same God as Catholics. Very sad situation. Such a gifted thinker yet so wrong on certain things.
    The idea of Allah being triune in Islam is very, very, VERY heretical. There is nothing in Islamic doctrine or the Quran to insinuate that Allah became man or had a spirit. So E. Michael Jones should talk to a Muslim because they don't think that.

    Source: asked an actual Muslim

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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #19 on: June 17, 2019, 11:52:59 AM »
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  • About the books that need a home, by chance do you have a traditional church near you.  Some people give their religious belongings to a church and the parishioners buy them and the donations go to the church.
    I don't want to do that.  They get enough from others.  I want to give my collection complete to someone who will value them and make use of them. 
    Thank you for the suggestion just the same.
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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #20 on: June 17, 2019, 11:53:38 AM »
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  • Then tell E. Michael Jones, because he thinks Muslims worship the same God as Catholics. Very sad situation. Such a gifted thinker yet so wrong on certain things.
    There's something very odd about him.
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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #21 on: June 17, 2019, 03:51:40 PM »
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  • In my childhood, I was told by a fellow student that Muslims worship the same god as Christians. 
    As an adult, I disagree. 

    As for that collection of books...I am always interested in acquiring more books to add to our shelves. We love to read here. Feel free to contact me and let us see if something can be arranged. 

    Back to the Muslims. Being still relatively new to being Catholic, am I supposed to despise/hate/(fill in the blank) them?

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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #22 on: June 17, 2019, 05:41:08 PM »
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  • Back to the Muslims. Being still relatively new to being Catholic, am I supposed to despise/hate/(fill in the blank) them?
    On the contrary you should love them, not the soppy love, but a manly love which seeks their salvation, through conversion to Jesus Christ. For most of us this means prayer for them.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #23 on: June 17, 2019, 06:12:11 PM »
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  • Listen to this talk by Fr. Gregory Hesse ...
    He comments on a statement in a Vatican II docuмent which
    says, "The Muslims together with us adore one merciful God".
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    https://youtu.be/Bb92EfzPlYA?t=117
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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #24 on: June 18, 2019, 11:44:39 AM »
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  • Well, Hesse gives himself away to Satan.  Good for him to say this, so we can all, pray for him and leave him speaking to himself.

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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #25 on: June 18, 2019, 01:00:01 PM »
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  • Well, Hesse gives himself away to Satan.  Good for him to say this, so we can all, pray for him and leave him speaking to himself.
    What are you talking about "Hesse gives himself away to Satan"?


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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #26 on: June 18, 2019, 01:05:26 PM »
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  • Quite simply Allah is the word for God in arabic and is connected to the Aramaic.
    Objectively Muslims do not believe in the same God as Christians, our God is triune. They believe falsehood.
    It is one thing to say that men in general believe in God (conceptually, ie: a transcendent eternal being) quite another thing to say our concept of God in his  actuality is the same, because it isn't.

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    Re: Traditional Church Teaching on Moslems
    « Reply #27 on: June 18, 2019, 05:09:12 PM »
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  • Excuse me, I misunderstood, about what Hesse said.