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Offline Last Tradhican

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Re: Trad women and tattoos
« Reply #15 on: October 27, 2020, 09:27:24 AM »
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  • I have to agree with this.

    I'm afraid that liberalism is in the very air we breathe in America, so even Trad Catholics instinctively recoil at the thought of "imposing our morality on others".
    But the fact is, we wouldn't have the current epidemic of single motherhood (for example) if people weren't so universally "nice" about it. We've made it completely socially acceptable.
    That is a very thought provoking observation.


    Today, we are living in the extreme of the other side, the SSPX priests today will have NOTHING to do with the subject of saying ANYTHING to the young ladies about how they live, talk, and dress.
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    Re: Trad women and tattoos
    « Reply #16 on: October 27, 2020, 09:35:49 AM »
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  • As tattoos become more popular in the wider world among worldly whores, it would make sense if there were more tattoos on trad whores.
    The writer could have been more delicate in his way of expressing himself, however, that would have wasted his time. He got his point across in just one short sentence. What he says is true.
    Before the tattoos comes the immodest clothing, the "dating" and the night club life. They are all a big placard, a sign board telling parents that their children are not living the faith. The parents apparently could care less (The same with the SSPX priests, for them apparently all they want from you is to learn the catechism and go to mass on Sundays). 
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    Re: Trad women and tattoos
    « Reply #17 on: October 27, 2020, 09:47:08 AM »
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  • That is a very thought provoking observation.


    Today, we are living in the extreme of the other side, the SSPX priests today will have NOTHING to do with the subject of saying ANYTHING to the young ladies about how they live, talk, and dress.
    This is something that irks me. Seems like most of the women wear high heels, skirts to knees, highlighted hair, etc. Frequently all three. This is at Mass. I fear what they look like the rest of the week. 
    We got a modesty sermon once, where he talked to us “like you are educated traditional Catholics” and made no mention of the inappropriate dress at Mass. Well, looking around it doesn’t  seem like they are well educated to me. 
    Do they not think it is scandalous? Do they not realize the severity of their judgement as priests? 100 years ago the prostitutes wouldn’t even dress like this. Yet here they are in the “traditional” house of God. 

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    « Reply #18 on: October 27, 2020, 09:56:19 AM »
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  • This is something that irks me. Seems like most of the women wear high heels, skirts to knees, highlighted hair, etc. Frequently all three. This is at Mass. I fear what they look like the rest of the week.
    We got a modesty sermon once, where he talked to us “like you are educated traditional Catholics” and made no mention of the inappropriate dress at Mass. Well, looking around it doesn’t  seem like they are well educated to me.
    Do they not think it is scandalous? Do they not realize the severity of their judgement as priests? 100 years ago the prostitutes wouldn’t even dress like this. Yet here they are in the “traditional” house of God.
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    Moreover the loss of others is imputed to him. I need say no more. If but one dies without baptism, does it not entirely endanger his salvation? For the loss of one soul is so great an evil as no man can understand. If the salvation of one soul is of such importance that, for its sake, the Son of God became man and suffered so much, think of the penalty the loss of one soul will entail. (Third Homily, Acts of the Apostles)

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    Re: Trad women and tattoos
    « Reply #19 on: October 27, 2020, 09:57:39 AM »
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  • St. John Chrysostom, Patriarch of Constantinople, Doctor of the Church:
     
    I do not speak rashly, but as I feel and think, I do not think that many priests are saved but that those that perish are far more numerous. The reason is that the office requires a great soul. For there are many things to make a priest swerve from rectitude, and he requires great vigilance on every side. Do you not perceive how many qualities a bishop must have that he may be apt to teach; patient towards the wicked, firm and faithful in teaching the Word? How many difficulties herein.
     
    Moreover the loss of others is imputed to him. I need say no more. If but one dies without baptism, does it not entirely endanger his salvation? For the loss of one soul is so great an evil as no man can understand. If the salvation of one soul is of such importance that, for its sake, the Son of God became man and suffered so much, think of the penalty the loss of one soul will entail. (Third Homily, Acts of the Apostles)
    That was me. Last Tradhican.
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    « Reply #20 on: October 27, 2020, 11:56:39 AM »
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  • Is it just me or am I seeing more trad women with tattoos?
    Ok has it not crossed your mind that possibly they could be converts to the Faith? Or perhaps they are reverts who had strayed from the Faith and are now coming back from their worldly ways?

    Tattoos are permanent unless you get laser surgery to remove. And because our bodies are Temples of the Holy Ghost, tattoos would be similar to graffitiing a Tabernacle, only the graffiti would be easier to paint over on a Tabernacle in a church. So those who make the mistake of tattooing their bodies are still able to repent of it even if they haven’t removed them yet. 

    By the way, and interesting to note, I happen to know personally three men that got tattoos after they came to Tradition from the NO. 
    And I know this because they told me first and then proudly showed them off. Yes they are hidden under their dress shirts on Sundays, but during the week on display with a regular T-shirt. 

    The Traditional ladies I know with tattoos, all converts from paganism. 

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    Re: Trad women and tattoos
    « Reply #21 on: October 27, 2020, 12:34:43 PM »
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  • Ok has it not crossed your mind that possibly they could be converts to the Faith? Or perhaps they are reverts who had strayed from the Faith and are now coming back from their worldly ways?

    Tattoos are permanent unless you get laser surgery to remove. And because our bodies are Temples of the Holy Ghost, tattoos would be similar to graffitiing a Tabernacle, only the graffiti would be easier to paint over on a Tabernacle in a church. So those who make the mistake of tattooing their bodies are still able to repent of it even if they haven’t removed them yet.

    By the way, and interesting to note, I happen to know personally three men that got tattoos after they came to Tradition from the NO.
    And I know this because they told me first and then proudly showed them off. Yes they are hidden under their dress shirts on Sundays, but during the week on display with a regular T-shirt.

    The Traditional ladies I know with tattoos, all converts from paganism.
    So how do you know they have tattoos? What I mean is that there's not many parts of a traditional woman's body that ought to be visible to men other than their husbands. 

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    Re: Trad women and tattoos
    « Reply #22 on: October 27, 2020, 01:14:28 PM »
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  • I have never seen a traditional Catholic who got a tatoo.  I have seen a few men who had tatoos become traditional Catholic.  I can't say I've seen any tatoos on any women who attend traditional chapels though people I know have mentioned them.  


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    « Reply #23 on: October 27, 2020, 01:43:40 PM »
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  • I've seen a mother of several children with a huge tattoo on her back in the SSPX chapel where we go to Mass on Sundays. Perhaps she got it before becoming Catholic.

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    « Reply #24 on: October 27, 2020, 02:12:11 PM »
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  • So how do you know they have tattoos? What I mean is that there's not many parts of a traditional woman's body that ought to be visible to men other than their husbands.
    Forearms, wrists, hands, ankles, calfs. Some only barely visible if wearing a quarter sleeve sweater, but nothing outrageous or offensive.  At least at our SSPX chapel. 
    I like to give people the benefit of doubt, we’ve all made mistakes, some just happen to be more visible that is all.

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    Re: Trad women and tattoos
    « Reply #25 on: October 27, 2020, 02:59:13 PM »
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  • I do agree that there's some benefit to "shaming" people for sin ... to a point.  So it used to be a shameful thing for a young lady to get pregnant out of wedlock; such girls were usually hidden away from society due to the stigma.  Now they have baby showers and celebrate it.  In the NO it's a cause for great joy because the girl didn't have an abortion.  So they've flipped the tables now where it's almost cool and fashionable for a teenager to become pregnant.

    On the other hand, there is also room for God's Mercy, and it you go too far, one might tempt certain women to go and have abortions.  We're all sinners and are in no position to cast any stones.  So there a balance to be had between showing God's Mercy while insisting that the situation itself is wrong and sinful.

    I believe it goes too far to call a Traditional Catholic woman who has a tattoo a "trad whore".  Not every woman who gets a tattoo has impure motives.  They could just consider it an aesthetic thing to get a picture of a rose or something.  I've known some Traditional men who got tattoos of crosses.  They thought they were doing something good.  So I think there's some education required on the subject.  With that said I don't consider getting a small tasteful tattoo to be some kind of grave sin per se.  Not every women who gets one is a "whore" ... although many certainly are.


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    « Reply #26 on: October 27, 2020, 03:31:40 PM »
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  • With that said I don't consider getting a small tasteful tattoo to be some kind of grave sin per se.
    What has ever been a tasteful tattoo on women in the history of Catholicism? 

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    Re: Trad women and tattoos
    « Reply #27 on: October 27, 2020, 04:26:32 PM »
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  • What kind of a coward makes all these "anonymous" posts?

    I have more respect for a woman who might have a tattoo and who prays the true Mass than some keyboard warrior hiding in the anonymous section sniping and scandalizing others on  a bunch of trivial bs.

    Come out from the shadows chicken.




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    Re: Trad women and tattoos
    « Reply #28 on: October 27, 2020, 05:40:24 PM »
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  • What kind of a coward makes all these "anonymous" posts?

    I have more respect for a woman who might have a tattoo and who prays the true Mass than some keyboard warrior hiding in the anonymous section sniping and scandalizing others on  a bunch of trivial bs.

    Come out from the shadows chicken.


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    If you were banned for life from LaGuardia and tried to come back with a disguise, they'd know it was you and you'd be headed to jail. Being banned from a forum should be the same deal. They see it's a banned user, boom. Bye.

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    « Reply #29 on: October 27, 2020, 06:19:45 PM »
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  • Is it just me or am I seeing more trad women with tattoos?
    That's actually an oxymoron, for a real traditionalist woman would not get a tattoo. If a traditionalist woman were to get a tattoo it would be a sign that there is something wrong. And like I said before, there would be other signs before the tattoo:


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    Before the tattoos comes the immodest clothing, the "dating" and the night club life. They are all a big placard, a sign board telling parents that their children are not living the faith. The parents apparently could care less (The same with the SSPX priests, for them apparently all they want from you is to learn the catechism and go to mass on Sundays). 
    Like I have also said before, I've seen many young girls, the majority of the young girls in my chapel go the way of immodest clothing, the "dating" and the night club life, and then pregnancy and unwed motherhood. They eventually did get the body piercing and tattoos. It was all a big red flag indicating that they were not living the faith, not traditionalist though they went to mass every Sunday, but their parents apparently didn't care.