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Told not to confess past sins
« on: May 04, 2014, 07:32:00 PM »
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  • So I went to confession the other day. I was going to confess sins that I had forgotten and not intentionally held back, and the Priest told me that it wasn't necessary. I had learned before that I'm obliged to confess all unconfessed mortal sins.

    I am scrupulous to begin with - and to make things worse, I went to confession with another Priest before Mass today and did not confess those sins which I was told not to at the last confession. Should I have obeyed that confessor that told me not to confess my recently remembered sins?

    I am going to talk to a Priest sometime soon about all of this, but I figured it wouldn't hurt to post about it and get some feedback.

    I am totally confused.


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    Told not to confess past sins
    « Reply #1 on: May 04, 2014, 07:39:11 PM »
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  • I had the same problem when I was in the Novus Ordo. I would remember sins that I had never confessed before and confess them and the Novus Ordo priest would tell me that I do not have to confess them. I thought then that you have to confess all of your mortal sins and if you remember more you have to confess them the next time you go to confession. That makes sense to me. But I never asked a traditional priest about that though.
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    « Reply #2 on: May 04, 2014, 07:41:18 PM »
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  • Generally speaking, sins that you merely forgot to mention, and did not intentionally withhold, are forgiven, and there is no need to "reconfess" them.  A general confession is another story, but it doesn't sound like that is what was going on here.

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    « Reply #3 on: May 04, 2014, 07:43:06 PM »
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  • The problem is that it was with a Novus Ordo Priest. The confession that I made this morning was with a Traditional Priest.

    Would you just bring up those forgotten sins in the next confession? I may just tell the Priest that I have sins that I had remembered were unconfessed and was told not to confess them by a Novus Ordo Priest.

    I should also say that I am a recent convert (brought into the Church on Easter Vigil) and these are sins from before I joined the Church. That's definitely significant.

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    « Reply #4 on: May 04, 2014, 08:24:25 PM »
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  • FYI

    'If the penitent, through forgetfulness or for some lawful reason, without any blame attaching to him, omits to mention something which is necessary for the integrity of the confession, he is bound to disclose it on the next occasion; for, by the decision of the Council of Trent, each and every mortal sin of which one is conscious must be mentioned, that it may be directly remitted; hence if sins occur to the mind which have not yet been confessed, they must be submitted to the power of the keys. Thus Alexander VII condemned the proposition: Sins which have been forgotten or omitted in confession on account of instant danger to life or for any other reason, need not be mentioned in the next confession (cf. Prop. 11 damn.).'

    - Theory and Practice of the Confessional

    I. Mortal sins omitted without fault are and remain materia necessaria of  confession, or the objective duty of confessing them remains binding as before.

    These sins are, of course, really forgiven, but, as we have already observed, only indirectly or per concomitantiam through their connection with the other mortal sins which have been confessed and directly remitted. In the Sacrament of Penance the remission of sins is effected by the absolution; but sins which have not been  mentioned do not directly fall under the absolution since, properly speaking, they are unaffected by the sentence pronounced by a judge who knew nothing about them.

    Nevertheless the absolution pronounced rite et valide over certain sins is effectual because it is sacramental and because in God's providence no remission of sin takes place without an influx of sanctifying grace into the soul which presents no obex. Now sanctifying grace removes the whole reatus culpce mortalis and restores a man to perfect friendship with God and to his claim in the heavenly kingdom. Thus valid absolution produces sanctifying grace in the soul and consequently the remission of all mortal sins staining the soul, even those inculpably forgotten.

    - Theory and Practice of the Confessional



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    « Reply #5 on: May 04, 2014, 08:30:10 PM »
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    The problem is that it was with a Novus Ordo Priest. The confession that I made this morning was with a Traditional Priest.

    Would you just bring up those forgotten sins in the next confession? I may just tell the Priest that I have sins that I had remembered were unconfessed and was told not to confess them by a Novus Ordo Priest.

    I should also say that I am a recent convert (brought into the Church on Easter Vigil) and these are sins from before I joined the Church. That's definitely significant.


    Yes just tell the priest in your next confession your whole trouble frankly and simply.

    Best thing for a scrupulous person is to place himself in the hands of a holy priest who knows how to care for such.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 04, 2014, 08:32:18 PM »
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  • Thanks for the quotes. I know that I'm supposed to confess all unconfessed mortal sins, but I just don't know what to do from here. I didn't tell the first Priest, "But Father, I'm obliged to confess them..." I went to confession once after that, and recieved Holy Communion.

    I am just going to mention in my next confession that I have some sins to confess from my past life that I did not intentionally leave unconfessed.

    I have GOT to get rid of these scruples. I've tortured myself all day.

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    « Reply #7 on: May 04, 2014, 08:38:22 PM »
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    The problem is that it was with a Novus Ordo Priest. The confession that I made this morning was with a Traditional Priest.

    Would you just bring up those forgotten sins in the next confession? I may just tell the Priest that I have sins that I had remembered were unconfessed and was told not to confess them by a Novus Ordo Priest.

    I should also say that I am a recent convert (brought into the Church on Easter Vigil) and these are sins from before I joined the Church. That's definitely significant.


    Yes just tell the priest in your next confession your whole trouble frankly and simply.

    Best thing for a scrupulous person is to place himself in the hands of a holy priest who knows how to care for such.


    Thanks. I will do this. Should I mention the previous two confessions though, and the direction from the Priest that told me not to confess? It would have been easier to just tell the Priest this morning about what happened!

    I guess I'm worried because I did not confess those forgotten sins this morning because the other Priest told me not to.


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    « Reply #8 on: May 04, 2014, 08:56:52 PM »
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  • One more question, and I'll leave it be.

    Should I go to confession just to confess those sins I remembered? I'm asking because I made a confession after the time I was told not to confess those sins. If not, I will put this out of my mind until I need to go to confession again for other reasons.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 04, 2014, 10:57:29 PM »
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  • Scrupulosity can become a serious pitfall to moving away from sin and into a life of holiness.
    When we get caught up in it we sometimes think like Judas that our sins are greater than Him - a denial of the cross!

    One way I ensure receiving absolution for my sins, even those I do not recollect at the time of confession, is to mention "and I beg pardon for all sins I cannot recall at this time".  I also always close up my confession with the statement: "I also have renewed contrition for the sins of my youth/past".

    As for when to go to confession, if you are able to go to confession to a traditional priest, then do so, otherwise keep praying the Act of Contrition until you can get to one.

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    « Reply #10 on: May 05, 2014, 02:27:30 AM »
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  • In my N.O. days in the 1980's I was shocked that was considered mortal
    sins before Vatican 2 were no longer mortal sins.
    This was a Priest that was ordained in 1940.


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    « Reply #11 on: May 05, 2014, 05:32:21 AM »
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  • If you are having a problem with scrupolosity and the priest you are confessing to tells you that that was not a sin or you don't have to mention that again or whatever else you should believe that priest. Your doubts about yourself could be a temptation of the Devil. Place yourself before the mercy of Jesus. Say, "Jesus I trust in you."
    Remember, the publican prayed "Lord have mercy on me, a sinner." And when he left the Temple he was justified.
    The blind man Bartimaeus prayed , "Jesus, son of David, have mersy on me." And his sight was given to him.
    If Jesus can bless those people he can forgive you.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 05, 2014, 07:08:21 AM »
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  • I've gotten up, said my morning prayers, and am going to trust in Jesus' mercy and intentions. I abandon myself into His arms and will trust Him.

    I'll confess these forgotten sins at my next confession. Please say a little prayer for me and for all those who suffer from scruples.

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    « Reply #13 on: May 06, 2014, 07:39:49 PM »
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  • If the person was told not to confess the sins by a Priest, would it be a sacrilege to not confess the sin at the next confession?

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    « Reply #14 on: May 06, 2014, 08:01:52 PM »
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  • It's pretty common for priests to tell scrupulous folks to stop confessing past sins because they have already confessed the sins sufficiently and are forgiven.

    You just simply tell the priest you're confessing to the details and he'll tell you what to do. Then you listen as he's the judge.