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to volunteer or not to volunteer
« on: January 26, 2024, 07:24:24 PM »
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  • Say you've been blessed to have no need to work a job anymore, have no dependents, are still in OK health and can get around without help. You guess it would be a good idea to give back to others who are worse off. Your friends, neighbors, extended family are all doing fine. Your chapel is focused on saving souls, and people there are too spread out and too busy with other things to keep a regular mutual assistance program going.

    If you volunteer at something like a hospice, you could be expected to witness and maybe even do things that you know are wrong. If you volunteer at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter, it's probably run by diocese hacks or some group that says that poverty is about systemic oppression. Even if you manage to do some good, you have to grit your teeth and watch what you say.

    What do you do? 

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #1 on: January 26, 2024, 07:33:38 PM »
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  • I'm in the same situation. I've wanted to do volunteer work for years but can't find something to do. I once approached the director of a soup kitchen about volunteering and she said the only position available was supervising showers. For men and women. :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:


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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #2 on: January 26, 2024, 08:22:20 PM »
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  • You can take a regular job and use all the money to offer masses for the souls in Purgatory.

    Spiritual works of mercy are also very important.

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #3 on: January 26, 2024, 09:51:27 PM »
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  • These problems arise when you do govt “volunteering”. How about just “Helping Out”. Do you not have neighbours who would appreciate a helping hand doings things that have become too hard for them.

    Changing light bulbs,
    Vacuuming floors
    Hanging the washing
    Cooking a light meal
    Driving to Mass
    Weeding and mowing

    Use your imagination.


    If you volunteer at something like a hospice, you could be expected to witness and maybe even do things that you know are wrong.

    If you volunteer at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter, it's probably run by diocese hacks or some group that says that poverty is about systemic oppression. Even if you manage to do some good, you have to grit your teeth and watch what you say.

    What do you do?
    Have you had that experience? Nobody has to “witness” but an act of Charity is in itself a witness.
    Nobody has to comply with immoral acts.

    Don’t look down your nose on those who are actually doing Acts of Charity.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.

    +RIP 2024

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #4 on: January 26, 2024, 10:01:52 PM »
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  • Even if you manage to do some good, you have to grit your teeth and watch what you say.

    What do you do?
    You grit your teeth, choose your words and say what's right.  All they can do is say you're service is no longer required.

    The first thing I'd do is go to Mass and tell Our Lord, "OK God I'm here.  Use me in anyway You want"
    (don't be surprised if a couple things suddenly show up out of the blue)

    The second thing I'd do is overcome the human expectation that we want to see the benefits of our labour.  Most of the saints never saw the fruits of their labours.

    A hospice might be a bit harsh to start with.  Could you volunteer at a government run nursing home...you know a place where elderly people are warehoused, many without caring family?  You could read to them, talk to them, show interest in their life before warehousing, walk with them to help them get exercise.  You may even find amongst these old people Catholics who were brought up before Vat II and now that they're on the last leg of their journey they might just need you to talk with them about their faith which staff won't ever do.
    In other words I guess I'm saying... be a servant to all and expect nothing in return.
    But you might help someone save their soul?

    Sadly if you haven't had your shots many places will be closed to you
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #5 on: January 27, 2024, 05:41:03 AM »
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  • Say you've been blessed to have no need to work a job anymore, have no dependents, are still in OK health and can get around without help. You guess it would be a good idea to give back to others who are worse off. Your friends, neighbors, extended family are all doing fine. Your chapel is focused on saving souls, and people there are too spread out and too busy with other things to keep a regular mutual assistance program going.

    If you volunteer at something like a hospice, you could be expected to witness and maybe even do things that you know are wrong. If you volunteer at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter, it's probably run by diocese hacks or some group that says that poverty is about systemic oppression. Even if you manage to do some good, you have to grit your teeth and watch what you say.

    What do you do?
    I am in a similar boat, and I have prayed about it.  A couple of scenarios were of interest to me, but they did not come to pass for different reasons.  I continue to keep my eyes open for other opportunities that God may bring to my attention, but so far it seems to me that His answer for now is to focus on my spouse, my home, and my spiritual life. 

    Have you prayed about it?

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #6 on: January 27, 2024, 08:39:30 AM »
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  • I hate to be so critical, (like Matthew said in the other thread) but morally, hospice is not always a good organization to be affiliated with ( unless you want to be a whistleblower.)

    Everyone and everything seems kind and compassionate, but people placed on hospice are many times not allowed to be treated for any concomitant illness- it's totally comfort measures only. Sometimes comfort measures is all that is needed and it is a correct approach, but other times they refuse tube feedings and IV hydration for people that would benefit from it, even in terminal circuмstances. 
    The objective of hospice is dying. Comfort, morphine and emotional support. If a family insists on some type of treatment ( as an example- pneumonia) The patient usually has to be removed from hospice as well as the government funding for it. 
    I think hospice is approved financially in 6 month blocks. That is the financial dying window.

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #7 on: January 27, 2024, 09:10:23 AM »
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  • I hate to be so critical, (like Matthew said in the other thread) but morally, hospice is not always a good organization to be affiliated with ( unless you want to be a whistleblower.)
    It's not the dying part that troubles me. That isn't a new experience, I went through that enough already. Whistleblowing about something evil doesn't worry me, I'd do that if necessary. The trouble is when you have to deal with people, especially people in charge, who don't believe what Christians do about death. Then it stops being about the dying person who needs the help, and it turns into a challenge between the people still living.


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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #8 on: January 27, 2024, 09:19:39 AM »
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  • These problems arise when you do govt “volunteering”. How about just “Helping Out”. Do you not have neighbours who would appreciate a helping hand doings things that have become too hard for them.

    Don’t look down your nose on those who are actually doing Acts of Charity.
    I did all of those things you listed lots of times but those people have either died or their situations have changed. I said up top that I don't know anyone right now who needs help. The neighbors' grownup kids are always around and they pay handymen for whatever else. I'll bring in their trash cans from the curb if I'm out earlier than they are, but I'm not going to traipse around their yards uninvited. I'm not going to drive around knocking on strangers' doors either.

    I don't look down on anyone actually doing acts of charity. I wrote because I wanted to know if anyone here has dealt with those running organizations and giving orders. Whenever I was involved in those groups when I was younger, it was always those bosses that made the volunteers want to quit. 

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #9 on: January 27, 2024, 09:23:16 AM »
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  • I am in a similar boat, and I have prayed about it.  A couple of scenarios were of interest to me, but they did not come to pass for different reasons.  I continue to keep my eyes open for other opportunities that God may bring to my attention, but so far it seems to me that His answer for now is to focus on my spouse, my home, and my spiritual life. 

    Have you prayed about it?
    I have prayed about it for months and I'm getting the same answer as you. Sometimes we're not the ones with the mission to go out and fix things outside of our immediate lives. I asked the question because of some of the other topics being written about society and its problems and how much any of us can do about it.  

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #10 on: January 27, 2024, 09:24:19 AM »
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  • The second thing I'd do is overcome the human expectation that we want to see the benefits of our labour.  Most of the saints never saw the fruits of their labours.
    This.


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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #11 on: January 27, 2024, 10:14:53 AM »
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  • I have prayed about it for months and I'm getting the same answer as you. Sometimes we're not the ones with the mission to go out and fix things outside of our immediate lives. I asked the question because of some of the other topics being written about society and its problems and how much any of us can do about it. 
    Then I think the answer is similar to mine.  The right time and situation will arrive if that is God's Will for you.  

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #12 on: January 27, 2024, 10:29:36 AM »
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  • Could you use a loving dog?  My lab mix is so loving and don't have the time.  

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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #13 on: January 27, 2024, 01:08:33 PM »
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  • Some thoughts …
     
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    Your chapel is focused on saving souls, and people there are too spread out and too busy with other things to keep a regular mutual assistance program going.
     
    Our Lord Himself made a very direct connection between saving one’s soul, works of charity, and the Corporal Works of Mercy (St. Matthew 25:31-46; This is the Gospel for Monday of the First Week of Lent).  Any chapel, parish, priest, or individual would be rather remiss if they ignore Our Lord’s words, in my humble opinion.
     
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    If you volunteer at something like a hospice, you could be expected to witness and maybe even do things that you know are wrong.
    I have no idea what is meant here.  In my semi-retirement from dairy cows I work for a funeral home and I’m very familiar with hospice.  Where I’m at now we have a dedicated hospice facility, but most choose to have hospice care at home.  Where I lived before all hospice care was provided in the home or a nursing home.  What exactly would a volunteer “witness to?” … I really have no idea.
     
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    These problems arise when you do govt “volunteering”. 
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     Could you volunteer at a government run nursing home...

     
    There is very little “govt volunteering” other than Peace Corps, AmeriCorps, or something like those.  Almost all opportunities, including the ones mentioned in the first two posts, are with local or locally managed nongovernmental non-profit organizations and churches.  I’ve never heard of a “government run nursing home” outside of the Veterans Administration.  When my mother needed to be at an assisted living facility her last two years I visited or researched all the available local options.  ALL were PRIVATE businesses.  Maybe it’s different where the quoted poster lives.  Still, there are lots of people in those facilities who could use visitors, and there are lots of local organizations who have that apostolate.
     
    There are thousands of opportunities, even hundreds in rural areas.  My first thought, if one has a local
    traditionalist chapel, would be to organize, however small, a corporal works of mercy lay apostolate.  At first the focus could be on any needs within the chapel community, but it could expand to helping with the broader community, and this would also be a form of evangelization (people see the good work being done by the chapel, are inspired, and seek out more information).
     
    Some random ideas:
     
    My former parish has a program where people volunteer to take prepared meals (hot or ready to heat up) for several days to those for whom this would be helpful.  This would include when a baby has just been born, someone has just gotten out of the hospital, there has been a death in the family, etc.  They send out an e-mail or text notice of the need, and there is a website for sign up.  I can find out the details of how it works if anyone is seriously interested.
     
    In almost every community there usually are groups who knit and/or sew baby clothing and blankets and put together a package to distribute to new mothers in need.  Local hospitals should have this information.
    Not every community has a good transit system, especially in rural areas.  There often are volunteers who give rides to those who don’t drive, for shopping, appointments, and so forth.  Many parishes have a program where people give rides to Mass.  At another former parish they arranged to “borrow or rent” (IDK which) a handicapped accessible van from an organization that didn’t use it on Sunday’s, and volunteers would use it to bring people to Mass.
     
    Meals on Wheels always needs volunteers.  I wouldn’t understand how anyone could object to the work they do.
     
    While I understand that some here wouldn’t want the association, Catholic Charities has Volunteer Chore Services and Senior Companions, which allow many seniors to remain in their own homes.
     
    The Red Cross (I was a First Aid and CPR instructor with them, which gave me the opportunity to see all the other things they do).  Where I live they have volunteers who install smoke detectors in homes and apartments at no cost.  They will even come and change the batteries for those who shouldn’t be getting on step stools.  Whenever there is a house or apartment fire there are volunteers on call 24/7 who immediately respond.  They find shelter for those who don’t have family or friends to go to and provide basic needs until the homeowners or renters insurance benefits kick in.  Volunteers also set up shelters in the event of floods and other natural disasters.
     
    Habitat for Humanity.  In some areas they don’t just help low income families build a house but also do things like install a wheel chair ramp or rehab an older house so a family won’t need to move.  If one isn’t able to “swing a hammer” many local Habitat groups have surplus building supply shops that need volunteers.
     
    The list could go on and on.  If anyone genuinely wants to perform the Corporal Works of Mercy, the appropriate opportunities are everywhere.



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    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #14 on: January 27, 2024, 01:10:52 PM »
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  • Reply #13 was mine.  I hate having to opt in to be non-anonymous, it should be the other way around.  And, I cannot fathom how this topic meets the criteria for the Anonymous forum.