Send CathInfo's owner Matthew a gift from his Amazon wish list:
https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

Author Topic: to volunteer or not to volunteer  (Read 7568 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline Yeti

  • Supporter
  • *****
  • Posts: 4109
  • Reputation: +2419/-528
  • Gender: Male
Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
« Reply #15 on: January 27, 2024, 01:17:13 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Reply #13 was mine.  I hate having to opt in to be non-anonymous, it should be the other way around.  And, I cannot fathom how this topic meets the criteria for the Anonymous forum.
    .

    Yes, I agree with all of this. I don't know if this is helpful, but after you click the button to post non-anonymously, if you get the message that someone else has posted while you were typing so that you have to click the Post button again, that UN-clicks your Non-Anonymous box, so if you don't RE-click the box when you click the button again to post, it will still post your post as Anonymous.

    I agree that this is a strange topic for the anonymous forum.

    To the OP, have you tried helping out around your church? Cleaning, polishing brass, ironing linens, mowing lawns, weeding, etc. Chapels are always in desperate need of manpower for things like that, and I would be very surprised if you were turned away. And anything done for the house of God is of greater value than a good work done for man.

    Offline Matthew

    • Mod
    • *****
    • Posts: 32916
    • Reputation: +29195/-596
    • Gender: Male
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #16 on: January 27, 2024, 01:30:45 PM »
  • Thanks!2
  • No Thanks!0
  • Say you've been blessed to have no need to work a job anymore, have no dependents, are still in OK health and can get around without help. You guess it would be a good idea to give back to others who are worse off. Your friends, neighbors, extended family are all doing fine. Your chapel is focused on saving souls, and people there are too spread out and too busy with other things to keep a regular mutual assistance program going.

    If you volunteer at something like a hospice, you could be expected to witness and maybe even do things that you know are wrong. If you volunteer at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter, it's probably run by diocese hacks or some group that says that poverty is about systemic oppression. Even if you manage to do some good, you have to grit your teeth and watch what you say.

    What do you do?

    You're being too picky.

    If someone is practicing euthanasia on the premises, it is NOT your fault or your problem. You are not one of the doctors committing various sins, you are just a volunteer there. For your part, you would be guiltless and actually gaining merit.

    Likewise, it's a lame excuse to avoid helping at soup kitchens or shelters because there's a large Novus Ordo or even Communist presence there. Who cares? You save your soul, be a good example, and leave them to their nonsense. It doesn't take away from what you are doing, even if a bunch of them are there because the court ordered them to, or because they believe in systematic oppression, Critical Race Theory, or some other nonsense.

    If they were so woke they all started "taking a knee" before black people, holding an "I'm sorry" sign or some nonsense, you would just respectfully decline in a dignified manner. If rejection of Wokeness was a dealbreaker, if they tell you they no longer have need of your services because of that -- fine. You weren't getting paid anyhow. Apparently it was not God's will that you work there. But how about you WAIT for that rejection to happen, assuming it IS God's will in the meantime, eh? The chance of that happening is infinitesimal, almost zero.

    On the contrary, a good Traditional Catholic being on hand during the last weeks, days, even minutes of the lives of countless poor souls -- a lot of good could be done. Who knows, you might even save some souls that would otherwise be lost.

    Working at an abortuary would be sinful. Such facilities ought not to even exist. But there is nothing morally wrong with a Hospice, a nursing home/care facility for those in the last weeks or months of life. By working there, you don't condone or approve of every single thing that takes place under its roof, however. That includes ministers of false religion being given access and respect, any euthanasia, turning over corpses for cremation, etc. All outside your control, and totally not your problem.
    Want to say "thank you"? 
    You can send me a gift from my Amazon wishlist!
    https://www.amazon.com/hz/wishlist/ls/25M2B8RERL1UO

    My accounts (Paypal, Venmo) have been (((shut down))) PM me for how to donate and keep the forum going.


    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #17 on: January 27, 2024, 03:08:23 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0

  • Douay-Rheims Bible
    Therefore when thou dost an almsdeed, sound not a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the ѕуηαgσgυєs and in the streets, that they may be honoured by men. Amen I say to you, they have received their reward. 

    Offline Soubirous

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 2109
    • Reputation: +1662/-44
    • Gender: Female
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #18 on: January 27, 2024, 03:12:11 PM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • I agree that this is a strange topic for the anonymous forum.

    Sometimes anonymity can make possible the question, which can elicit strong solid responses (such as yours and moneil's and Matthew's among the last few), which can in turn encourage (emphasis on encourage) positive action not only by the asker but also the many other nameless people who read these later.
    Over 3,000 anonymous topics and counting, so it's a beneficent option often enough, yes? ::) 
    Let nothing disturb you, let nothing frighten you, all things pass away: God never changes. Patience obtains all things. He who has God finds he lacks nothing; God alone suffices. - St. Teresa of Jesus

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #19 on: January 27, 2024, 03:12:40 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • 1 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. 
    2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the ѕуηαgσgυєs and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 
    3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 
    4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you.


    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #20 on: January 27, 2024, 03:19:36 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I agree that this is a strange topic for the anonymous forum.

    To the OP, have you tried helping out around your church? Cleaning, polishing brass, ironing linens, mowing lawns, weeding, etc. Chapels are always in desperate need of manpower for things like that, and I would be very surprised if you were turned away. And anything done for the house of God is of greater value than a good work done for man.
    It's a personal question, so I don't see an issue with it.  As for helping out at one's church, that's probably not an option for many Traditional Catholics since their church is probably quite a distance away.

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #21 on: January 29, 2024, 09:11:04 PM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • You're being too picky.

    If someone is practicing euthanasia on the premises, it is NOT your fault or your problem. You are not one of the doctors committing various sins, you are just a volunteer there. For your part, you would be guiltless and actually gaining merit.

    Likewise, it's a lame excuse to avoid helping at soup kitchens or shelters because there's a large Novus Ordo or even Communist presence there. Who cares? You save your soul, be a good example, and leave them to their nonsense. It doesn't take away from what you are doing, even if a bunch of them are there because the court ordered them to, or because they believe in systematic oppression, Critical Race Theory, or some other nonsense.

    If they were so woke they all started "taking a knee" before black people, holding an "I'm sorry" sign or some nonsense, you would just respectfully decline in a dignified manner. If rejection of Wokeness was a dealbreaker, if they tell you they no longer have need of your services because of that -- fine. You weren't getting paid anyhow. Apparently it was not God's will that you work there. But how about you WAIT for that rejection to happen, assuming it IS God's will in the meantime, eh? The chance of that happening is infinitesimal, almost zero.

    On the contrary, a good Traditional Catholic being on hand during the last weeks, days, even minutes of the lives of countless poor souls -- a lot of good could be done. Who knows, you might even save some souls that would otherwise be lost.

    Working at an abortuary would be sinful. Such facilities ought not to even exist. But there is nothing morally wrong with a Hospice, a nursing home/care facility for those in the last weeks or months of life. By working there, you don't condone or approve of every single thing that takes place under its roof, however. That includes ministers of false religion being given access and respect, any euthanasia, turning over corpses for cremation, etc. All outside your control, and totally not your problem.
    I agree wholeheartedly.

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #22 on: January 30, 2024, 04:33:36 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • If someone is posting this question here they've already gone through the usual channels of possible volunteer activities at their church. And has been pointed out many people live hours from their chapels. That comment about helping at church was very snarky and unnecessary.


    Offline AMDGJMJ

    • Sr. Member
    • ****
    • Posts: 3965
    • Reputation: +2421/-94
    • Gender: Female
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #23 on: January 30, 2024, 06:06:15 AM »
  • Thanks!3
  • No Thanks!0
  • Say you've been blessed to have no need to work a job anymore, have no dependents, are still in OK health and can get around without help. You guess it would be a good idea to give back to others who are worse off. Your friends, neighbors, extended family are all doing fine. Your chapel is focused on saving souls, and people there are too spread out and too busy with other things to keep a regular mutual assistance program going.

    If you volunteer at something like a hospice, you could be expected to witness and maybe even do things that you know are wrong. If you volunteer at a soup kitchen or a homeless shelter, it's probably run by diocese hacks or some group that says that poverty is about systemic oppression. Even if you manage to do some good, you have to grit your teeth and watch what you say.

    What do you do?
    I have always thought that once the boys are grown up and don't need me as much that I would try and volunteer my services.

    Here are some things which I think would greatly benefit many tradition Catholic families but you wouldn't even have to leave your home.  These are things which the nuns and monks often did and which now everyone usually has to figure out on their own.

    1. Make rosaries to pass out for free or a very small fee to people at church or elsewhere. 

    2.  Make modest clothes to give out for free or for a very small fee to traditional Catholics who might have a hard time finding or affording them.

    3.  Make good quality food, jams, breads, grow herbs and such to share with people at your local chapel or elsewhere for free or a small fee.

    4. I knew a lady you used to make little hats and gloves for babies Catholic charity groups or pregnancy centers.

    5.  I knew an elderly man who used to trim hedges.

    Nuns used to provide modest wedding dresses for rent to young women getting married.

    Monks used to make affordable cheeses, breads and many other good quality foods for those who had a hard time affording them.

    Such items could be left at church in a "free bin" and you might be surprised at how quickly they would go.

    There are also many traditional women who would easily pay shipping and a small fee to have modest dresses made.

    Anyhow...  I think that you probably get the idea. 🥰


    "Jesus, Meek and Humble of Heart, make my heart like unto Thine!"

    http://whoshallfindavaliantwoman.blogspot.com/

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18403
    • Reputation: +5724/-1975
    • Gender: Female
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #24 on: January 30, 2024, 08:32:48 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • I like the idea of free bin at Chapel. 
    May God bless you and keep you

    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #25 on: January 30, 2024, 08:52:03 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Where we live, tons of beef and beers for charity.  Often I’m looked down because I don’t want to be a member of woman’s club and other local groups. 

     I often think that charity should be done without getting anything back.  The novus Ordo is always having parties and dinners patting each other on the back while the religious organizations use government money.  That’s not charity but being big shows.  They are seeking attention.  They often neglect the people who truly need help. 

    No time for sacraments but plenty of time to party.  Diocese goes bankrupt but holds a huge party.  

    There is so much false charity.   Huge corporations aren’t using their money; they ask consumers for their donations.  

    Recently the state is giving money to Catholic  schools for free lunches.  Where are the parents?   They cant make lunch the night before using their welfare money.   The people who need the charity usually doesn’t get it.  How much donations are wasted away on theology on tap to preach and promote anti Catholicism?  

    And many children in our state are obese  including “poor” children.   They look like little ticks.  These family aren’t poor.   We are discussing how these new immigrants coming in well fed, new clothes, gold jewelry, new cell phones from USA government.   The corrupt USA government is to blame; not the people.  

    True charity is spreading the truth in Jesus Christ and loving our neighbors. 



     









    Änσnymσus

    • Guest
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #26 on: January 30, 2024, 08:54:10 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • Charity is also praying too.  

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18403
    • Reputation: +5724/-1975
    • Gender: Female
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #27 on: January 30, 2024, 08:54:46 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • The above is me too. I forgot to check it.  
    May God bless you and keep you

    Offline FarmerWife

    • Supporter
    • ***
    • Posts: 586
    • Reputation: +390/-45
    • Gender: Female
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #28 on: January 30, 2024, 08:57:10 AM »
  • Thanks!1
  • No Thanks!0
  • Offer services as a mother’s helper or nanny. I babysat and tutored kids in math when I was younger so i think those skills would be strong for me.

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

    • Hero Member
    • *****
    • Posts: 18403
    • Reputation: +5724/-1975
    • Gender: Female
    Re: to volunteer or not to volunteer
    « Reply #29 on: January 30, 2024, 08:58:08 AM »
  • Thanks!0
  • No Thanks!0
  • A couple of weeks ago, we were gifted with free deer meat.  
    May God bless you and keep you