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Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
« Reply #15 on: March 07, 2020, 08:34:54 PM »
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  • Correct. She was and is still wrong. The Church can be wrong about non-dogmatic issues and practices.

    Yes, the eastern rite Catholic man must be married before he becomes a priest. He can't get married after he becomes a priest.
    Yeah, you know better than all of the Saints and holy men and women, who sanctioned clerical celibacy, that the Church produced over the millennia. The problem is not clerical celibacy, but the infiltration in the Church by evil men influenced by Satan.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?

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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #16 on: March 07, 2020, 08:48:41 PM »
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  • Yeah, you know better than all of the Saints and holy men and women, who sanctioned clerical celibacy, that the Church produced over the millennia. The problem is not clerical celibacy, but the infiltration in the Church by evil men influenced by Satan.

    Learn to think with strategy. Don't limit yourself to idealism. The fact is the priesthood would be a less attractive body to infiltrate by sodomites/pedos, if married men were allowed to become priests, because heterosexuals would far outnumber the perverts in the seminaries and priesthood. The reason the Vatican is essentially a Homo Cult is because of the rule that priests must take the vow of celibacy, which effectively dissuades any healthy, decent man with the natural drive to procreate with woman, and who has a love for God, from entering the seminaries. To fill the vacuum, the Church maintains its open door policy for closeted* perverts who have no attraction for women, but rather they're other attracted to men and little boys.

    *not so closeted among themselves


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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #17 on: March 08, 2020, 11:00:54 AM »
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  • Three points:
    1) your comment is a stawman
    2) you're an idiot
    3) you obviously lack reading comprehension
    Three points refuted
    1. I pointed out what is implicit in your argument, the worst you can say about my comment is that it is an oversimplification. Strawman it is not but unchallanged it is.
    2. The ad hominem debate stifling tactic only works when two key qualities are present in it. A) Your position has to be correct otherwise you bury yourself, and B) the attack itself has to be true or it shows a lack of judgement on your part. 
    That's a fail/fail for you.
    3. Patently false.

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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #18 on: March 08, 2020, 12:18:05 PM »
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  • The Church allows priests in the eastern rite to be married. It wouldn't be modernism nor heresy to allow priests in the Roman rite to be married, because the Seat of Peter has the Keys from Heaven to bind and loosen, and married priests have always existed in the eastern rite.

    One speedy way to remove the sodomite and pedo problem (the two usually go hand-in-hand) in the priesthood is to allow priests to be married (true, natural marriage between man & woman).

    True that the Church could allow Latin Rite priests to marry.  False that this would eliminate the pedo problem.  In the Eastern Rite, priest who are not married are in fact suspect ... of aspiring to be bishops, as bishops are not supposed to be married.

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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #19 on: March 08, 2020, 12:19:57 PM »
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  • Heck, lots of homosexuals even marry (apart from the priesthood) in order to avoid suspicion.  They would merely adapt.


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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #20 on: March 08, 2020, 07:36:03 PM »
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  • False that this would eliminate the pedo problem. 

    I never said it would eliminate the pedo problem. Learn to read.

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    Three points
    1. I pointed out what is implicit in your argument, the worst you can say about my comment is that it is an oversimplification. Strawman it is not but unchallanged it is.
    2. The ad hominem debate stifling tactic only works when two key qualities are present in it. A) Your position has to be correct otherwise you bury yourself, and B) the attack itself has to be true or it shows a lack of judgement on your part.
    That's a fail/fail for you.
    3. Patently false.

    Four points:

    1) You tacitly and implicitly support fags / pedos becoming priests and prelates

    2) your comment is still a strawman

    3) you're still an idiot

    4) you definitely lack reading comprehension

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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #21 on: March 08, 2020, 09:44:38 PM »
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  • I never said it would eliminate the pedo problem. Learn to read.

    Four points:

    1) You tacitly and implicitly support fags / pedos becoming priests and prelates

    2) your comment is still a strawman

    3) you're still an idiot

    4) you definitely lack reading comprehension
    The top comment was not me, the anonymous function of the forum has confused you.
    point # 1. Only if a vowed/professed celibacy leads irrevocably to perversion. That position is falsified in the person of our Lord Jesus Christ, his Apostles, every sainted bishop and virgin that every lived. I think my position is safe.
    point #2. You are simply mistaken. Stop while your behind son.
    point #3. Agreed, just not for this.
    point #4. Charity demands you show me how. Thank you in advance.
    Pray the Holy Rosary.

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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #22 on: March 08, 2020, 10:34:37 PM »
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  • I never said it would eliminate the pedo problem. Learn to read.

    Four points:

    1) You tacitly and implicitly support fags / pedos becoming priests and prelates

    2) your comment is still a strawman

    3) you're still an idiot

    4) you definitely lack reading comprehension
    Croix, you got to stop.
    For what doth it profit a man, if he gain the whole world, and suffer the loss of his own soul? Or what exchange shall a man give for his soul?


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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #23 on: March 08, 2020, 11:53:26 PM »
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  • Croix, you got to stop.

    I'm not Croix, and you need to stop being paranoid.

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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #24 on: March 08, 2020, 11:57:15 PM »
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  • The top comment was not me, the anonymous function of the forum has confused you.
    point # 1. Only if a vowed/professed celibacy leads irrevocably to perversion. That position is falsified in the person of our Lord Jesus Christ, his Apostles, every sainted bishop and virgin that every lived. I think my position is safe.
    point #2. You are simply mistaken. Stop while your behind son.
    point #3. Agreed, just not for this.
    point #4. Charity demands you show me how. Thank you in advance.

    1) The top comment is exactly you. You tacitly and implicitly support fags becoming priests and bishops.

    2) you've committed a strawman but deny it

    3) you're idiocy grows by the hour

    4) you haven't taken any active steps to improve your reading comprehension

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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #25 on: March 09, 2020, 04:20:22 AM »
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  • Regarding the subject of a vocation to the priesthood that was brought up in this thread:

    Young Men Need Not Apply



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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #26 on: June 20, 2020, 08:11:54 PM »
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  • This will be the only statement that will be issued regarding this matter since the inconsistencies and poor handling of this case are being reviewed by the Defense for future action. No further information will be provided so as not to jeopardize that review process or its outcome.

    A few facts about this case:

    1) wi-fi was not password protected; 2) irrefutable evidence of a previously confirmed hacking was presented; 3) the computer was not in a secured location, leaving it susceptible to unauthorized access and use.

    Forensics Psychological Exam

        After an extensive interview and examination by forensic psychologist Dr. Geoffrey R. McKee, on November 13, 2019, Dr. McKee reported: “…his sexual history indicated that he does not meet the diagnostic criteria for Pedophilia or Pedophilic Disorder.”  Dr. McKee further stated: “…his risk of harm to anyone, including children, is very low and thus he does not meet the DSM-5 [Diagnostic & Statistical Manual, 5th Edition, pg. 686] criteria for Pedophilic Disorder or any other diagnosis of sexual deviancy (e.g. Exhibitionistic Disorder, Sexual Sadism Disorder, etc.) which might put anyone at risk of harm.”

    Dr. McKee concluded his report with the following two points:
        “It is my opinion -- based on 35+ years of research, evaluation, and treatment of sex offenders and 13 years of service on SC’s Sexually Violent Predator (SVP) Multidisciplinary Team reviewing over 6,000 cases of SVP-eligible juvenile and adult inmate sex offenders -- that Mr. Amicarelli is not an SVP as defined by the SC Code of Laws.”
        “It is my opinion that given his very low risk scores on the sexual recidivism scales and NJ-RRAS described above, there are no empirical or quantitative grounds for Mr. Amicarelli to be placed on South Carolina’s Sex Offender Registry.”

    Geoffrey R. McKee, PhD, ABPP
    Board Certified in Forensic Psychology
    Affiliate Professor,
    Dept. of Neuropsychiatry & Behavioral Sciences
    University of South Carolina School of Medicine
    Affiliate Professor,
    Dept. of Psychiatry & Behavioral Sciences
    Medical University of South Carolina

    Some facts pertaining to the plea:

        On January 10, 2020, the court accepted an Alford plea, through which I asserted and maintained my innocence, yet accepted guilt.  This decision was based on many factors, a few of which include: 1) this offense happened “on my watch.” One of the marks of a true leader is accepting responsibility for what has transpired while they were “in charge,” even when the consequences are severe; 2) a jury trial had greater chances of a conviction by emotions - especially a case involving a priest - rather than an exoneration by facts; 3) it is no secret that government entities have far greater financial resources with which to pursue litigation against the average person, consequently, the average person is automatically on the losing end: if you can’t afford a winner, you have no choice but to settle for a negotiator.

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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #27 on: June 20, 2020, 08:24:30 PM »
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  • A cloistered Franciscan nun who lives in Ohio, formerly under the now-deceased Bishop McKenna., contacted Bishop Bruno. I know this because she was visited by Father James Kosek for monthly visits. It was a dreadful experience. She received appalling treatment at his hands. After taking all he could (she refused to sign her property over), he abandoned her.
    If you are making these statements about me and my experiences with "Mother Anthony Marie," ("dreadful experience," "appalling treatment," etc.), they are patently false, and you've been severely misinformed.

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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #28 on: June 27, 2020, 08:54:59 AM »
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  • Word of the treatment Mother Anthony Marie received from you was as told by her to Father James Kosek. Dr. McKee said you do not meet the DSM-5 criteria for Pedophilic Disorder, but what about Antisocial Personality Disorder according to the DSM-5? Failure to conform to social norms, deceitfulness, impulsivity, lack of remorse, and the list goes on.

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    Re: Bishop Bruno Amicarelli - disturbing news
    « Reply #29 on: June 27, 2020, 11:31:13 AM »
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  • Has a more impeccable statement regarding the priesthood and its crisis been made here on CathInfo than these truth bombs by Obama's $65K Hotdogs?

    I see that you're back again posting anonymously to promote your own posts again, Croix.


     

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