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“The Talk”. What is Your Approach?
« on: April 19, 2019, 08:31:53 AM »
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  • When your kids ask you about questions pertaining to how babies are made and such, how do you approach it?  I was told by an SSPX priest one should tell them as much as is appropriate for their age.  At the same time, if they keep pressing for more information, one should answer them as delicately as possible until their curiosity is satisfied.  For instance, when a three year old asked how the baby got in my belly I told him God put the baby there.  That was all that needed to be said.  A few years down the line, he asked how, then I said God gives two married people a special way to express their love that creates a baby.  That was the all I needed to say, he was satisfied.  However, when he turned 10, he was asking about some specifics which made me feel like it was difficult to describe the act in a delicate way without going into too much detail.  

    I friend of mine told me a book of hers (sorry, I don’t have the title but it was written by a priest) said one should talk about body parts with their actual names and straight forwardly so as not make these parts seem taboo but simply the way God made us.  

    When my son was pressing me for more info (and of course there was some laughter and smiles, but I really tried to create an atmosphere where my son was comfortable in asking me these things).  I would ask, are you satisfied with that answer?  And eventually he said yes.

    My spouse thought I went too far in my description.  I was told if they don’t hear it from there parents they will go looking for it elsewhere and so I felt it was best to answer his questions as delicately but also not hiding the reality from him. 

    Do you take a similar approach?  How do you feel about talking to your kids about these things?


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    Re: “The Talk”. What is Your Approach?
    « Reply #1 on: April 19, 2019, 08:46:06 AM »
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  • Do you take a similar approach?  How do you feel about talking to your kids about these things?
    I understand why many parents neglect this altogether. It's extremely difficult, especially if you're serious minded. It IS a big deal. The pressure is on. sɛҳuąƖity, relationships, reproduction is the single biggest factor in your child saving his soul or not. There is no other sin more likely to cause apostasy and eternal damnation than sins of the sixth and ninth. Think about bad marriages. How does one extricate himself from that? You have economic, family, and social ties, and even more complicated when children are involved. And who wants to live alone for the rest of their life when remarriage isn't an option?
    If you can guide your children away from sins of the sixth and ninth, and you've raised them with the Catholic Faith, they are about 95% of the way to heaven.


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    Re: “The Talk”. What is Your Approach?
    « Reply #2 on: April 19, 2019, 10:27:57 AM »
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  • When your kids ask you about questions pertaining to how babies are made and such, how do you approach it?  I was told by an SSPX priest one should tell them as much as is appropriate for their age.  At the same time, if they keep pressing for more information, one should answer them as delicately as possible until their curiosity is satisfied.  For instance, when a three year old asked how the baby got in my belly I told him God put the baby there.  That was all that needed to be said.  A few years down the line, he asked how, then I said God gives two married people a special way to express their love that creates a baby.  That was the all I needed to say, he was satisfied.  However, when he turned 10, he was asking about some specifics which made me feel like it was difficult to describe the act in a delicate way without going into too much detail.  

    I friend of mine told me a book of hers (sorry, I don’t have the title but it was written by a priest) said one should talk about body parts with their actual names and straight forwardly so as not make these parts seem taboo but simply the way God made us.  

    When my son was pressing me for more info (and of course there was some laughter and smiles, but I really tried to create an atmosphere where my son was comfortable in asking me these things).  I would ask, are you satisfied with that answer?  And eventually he said yes.

    My spouse thought I went too far in my description.  I was told if they don’t hear it from there parents they will go looking for it elsewhere and so I felt it was best to answer his questions as delicately but also not hiding the reality from him.

    Do you take a similar approach?  How do you feel about talking to your kids about these things?
    Sounds like to you did a good job. I think you handled it correctly.

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    Re: “The Talk”. What is Your Approach?
    « Reply #3 on: April 19, 2019, 06:27:44 PM »
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  • I agree.  
    Children know far more than most adults think.  Unless you've been raised in a very insular community, as Our Lady said, "There will be almost no innocent souls, no, not even among children."  I take this to mean not that all children will have succuмbed to sins against the 6th and 9th, but that their minds have already been exposed without their conscious awareness.  Whatever enters the eyes or ears is there for life, all the easier for the world, the flesh, and the devil to fan into flames later on.  Think!  If you take your year old child into a supermarket or a drug store, he rides in the little seat, and sees pictures on magazines of immodestly clad women and men.  It doesn't need to be nude or outright porn.  No, he (or she) has no interest or desire at the time, and will "forget" it, but later on, those pictures, even if not consciously recalled, can be used by the enemy when puberty arrives.  

    So is the solution to live off grid in total isolation or to join a bizarre cult?  No, of course not.  It is to maintain an open, honest, caring relationship in which children feel, even when they've done wrong or are in their adolescent years, that they can come to you at all times, with all questions, in any circuмstance, and be heard, given wise counsel, and that even punishments are backed by your love.

    Children who cannot do this WILL fall into mortal sin, if not impurity, then something else, leading to impurity.  Children so unfortunate to be raised in groups like certain Amish, Hasidic Jєωιѕн, the polygamist Mormons, on ashrams, upon leaving and "discovering" sɛҳuąƖity as accepted by the majority, nearly all cast off every restraint.  Satan loves ignorance.

    The solution is also not to deliberately expose them to perversion and then tell them it's evil!  Satan loves miseducation, as well.  (This is why school based sex-ed, anti-drug, anti-alcohol, anti-bullying programs don't work; no, not even if done in traditional Catholic schools.)  I heard an SSPX school, not sure where, had some sort of class for high schoolers.

    Dad, you did the right thing!  Teach according to each child's understanding, temperament, and as circuмstances require.  Teach by you and your wife's Godly example.  Do this and when your son encounters the wrong thing, his conscience will already be formed to reject it.  If he's tempted, he'll know how to pray because you've already taught him.  He needn't know why he prays the three Hail Mary's or calls upon St. Joseph, model of purity, or girls, to St. Agnes.  But when the need arises, the graces given at Baptism, by regular confession and Holy Communion, by Confirmation just before the onset of puberty, if at all possible, will enliven his heart and mind by the Holy Ghost.  He will will not merely avoid the sin, (remember, willfully indulging in mental impurity is mortally sinful, not just the act), but achieve mastery over his lower nature.

    Add my comments to the "Things I Wish My Parents Told Me" list and sign me "Penitent." 



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    Re: “The Talk”. What is Your Approach?
    « Reply #4 on: April 24, 2019, 04:52:43 PM »
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  • The only thing I would add is that since the OP appears to be the mother of the little boy, it might have been a more comfortable conversation had it been between father and son.  Especially as the boy gets older there may be other questions that arise that he might prefer to talk to his father about. 


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    Re: “The Talk”. What is Your Approach?
    « Reply #5 on: April 24, 2019, 09:55:45 PM »
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  • The only thing I would add is that since the OP appears to be the mother of the little boy, it might have been a more comfortable conversation had it been between father and son.  Especially as the boy gets older there may be other questions that arise that he might prefer to talk to his father about.

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    Dad, you did the right thing! 
    It was my impression that the OP was the mother. I agree she has done well in her approach to the matter and to her answers.
    It would be better if the Dad would handle these issues, but maybe Mum is more approachable seeing  the "spouse thought I went too far in my description" which might mean the child knows that his mother is more frank and open (in accordance with the child's age) and senses his father's more reticent nature.

    I suggest, as the boy is becoming more mature, she could ease her husband into a more active role.
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    Re: “The Talk”. What is Your Approach?
    « Reply #6 on: April 27, 2019, 01:33:21 AM »
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  • It was my impression that the OP was the mother. I agree she has done well in her approach to the matter and to her answers.
    It would be better if the Dad would handle these issues, but maybe Mum is more approachable seeing  the "spouse thought I went too far in my description" which might mean the child knows that his mother is more frank and open (in accordance with the child's age) and senses his father's more reticent nature.

    I suggest, as the boy is becoming more mature, she could ease her husband into a more active role.
    I didn't read that carefully first time around.  Yes, the OP is the mother.  In the very early years, it's fine for mom to instruct her son, maybe to about age 7.  After that, Dad should take over.  I have two nephews who grew up in an anti-religious family full of fights and substance abuse.  It ended in divorce four years ago, but things got worse and continue to worsen.  In this chaotic environment, the talk was given by mom, who took the advice of MSM. The results are entirely predictable.  The younger boy was inordinately attached mom, and vice versa. The young man is confused, experimenting with different identities.  He's putting his health and future at risk by engaging in all manner of promiscuity.  The older boy was blessed to have a Catholic grandpa with whom he had a very close relationship.  He went to Grandpa for education and advice on sɛҳuąƖ matters.  Today although not practicing any religion, he has adopted his Grandfather's way of life, saving himself for marriage, rejecting abortion and use of abortaficient birth control.  He's not sure about condoms, but there's hope he'll convert and come to understand why barriers to life are insulting to Our Lord.

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    Re: “The Talk”. What is Your Approach?
    « Reply #7 on: April 27, 2019, 11:39:19 AM »
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  • "The Talk" should be given by the parent of the same sex. period.
    If Dad can't/won't do it then Mom should get grandpa or an uncle to do it but DAD
    should be the one.  Dad will pay for shirking his responsibility.
    If any mother has the prayer book "Mother Love" from the Christian Mothers
    Archconfraternity (edition prior to 1965) The Talk is covered in there.

    Fathers wouldn't/shouldn't give The Talk to daughters so why would anyone think it OK
    for Mothers to instruct boys?
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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  • My 9 year old boy asked his mother and I how babies are made.

    His mother, seeing me quite perplexed about how to answer, said, “When a man and woman get married, God has them give each other a special hug that makes a baby.”

    He said, “Oh,” and did not inquire further.

    She really bailed me out on that one!

    Later, when I reflected on her response, I was impressed with all that her impromptu response taught him:

    1) It is something that happens only with a man and woman;

    2) Within marriage;

    3) The baby is a gift from God;

    4) The point of marriage is children.

    Quite proud of her for coming up with that answer!