Author Topic: The sign we are looking for is the conversion of the Jєωs. (Read 1002 times)

Änσnymσus · « **on:** March 17, 2017, 03:47:00 PM »

In the book Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, in the section on the second coming of Christ, are listed the signs on the Second Coming. Almost everything can be said to have already transpired, except the Conversion of the Jєωs.

1. The preaching of the Gospel to the entire world can be said to have already happened. Not only that, nowadays, people now have access to a machine translated 1917 Catholic Encyclopedia in their pockets, all around the world.
2. The falling away from the Faith can be said to have already happened. We have lived the cultural revolutions of the 1960's, many thousands of Priests and Religious left the Priesthood and the Religious life, in droves. I don't think most traditional have a problem with understanding there has been a falling away.
3. The appearance of the Antichrist can be said to have already happened, with the LaSallette secret alone.
4. We have had severe tribulations, hurricanes, tsunamis, bitter persecutions, the most bitter kind, with atheistic socialism and more.
5. The conversion of the Jєωs. There are 5 signs listed in this book as signs of the second coming. The one that can not really be said to have happened, is the conversion of the Jєωs.

Nadir · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2017, 07:49:25 PM »

With regard to no. 3, Who is the antichrist already come and where does La Salette fit in?

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2017, 02:31:25 AM »

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In the book Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, in the section on the second coming of Christ, are listed the signs on the Second Coming. Almost everything can be said to have already transpired, except the Conversion of the Jєωs.

1. The preaching of the Gospel to the entire world can be said to have already happened. Not only that, nowadays, people now have access to a machine translated 1917 Catholic Encyclopedia in their pockets, all around the world.
2. The falling away from the Faith can be said to have already happened. We have lived the cultural revolutions of the 1960's, many thousands of Priests and Religious left the Priesthood and the Religious life, in droves. I don't think most traditional have a problem with understanding there has been a falling away.
3. The appearance of the Antichrist can be said to have already happened, with the LaSallette secret alone.
4. We have had severe tribulations, hurricanes, tsunamis, bitter persecutions, the most bitter kind, with atheistic socialism and more.
5. The conversion of the Jєωs. There are 5 signs listed in this book as signs of the second coming. The one that can not really be said to have happened, is the conversion of the Jєωs.

Not all Jєωs will convert. In fact, only one-third of the Jєωs will convert to the Catholic Church, and they'll likely convert upon Jesus Christ's return, when they'll say, "blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord".

Prior to His return, as told in Prophecy Of Zacharias 13:8-9, two-thirds of all Jєωs will be exterminated by the Lord's holy and just punishment.

Stubborn · « **Reply #3 on:** March 18, 2017, 06:43:39 AM »

Quote from: Croix de Fer

Not all Jєωs will convert. In fact, only one-third of the Jєωs will convert to the Catholic Church, and they'll likely convert upon Jesus Christ's return, when they'll say, "blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord".

I don't normally pay much attention to these types of threads but one thing is certain - Christ comes to judge the living and the dead at His second coming, not to save anyone - He did that during His first coming. So if ever you read Jєωs will convert upon His return, know that idea is error. They need to convert sometime prior to the second coming, prior to "that dreadful day".

Dies Irae teaches of that day when Our Lord shall come again, this time He comes in all His glory, in full array as judge, no humble shepherd this time. When He comes again, even the saints will tremble!

That Day of Wrath, that dreadful day, shall heaven and earth in ashes lay....

...For now before the Judge severe,
all hidden things must plain appear,
no crime can pass unpunished here.

O what shall I, so guilty, plead?
And who for me will intercede?
When even Saints shall comfort need!

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #4 on:** March 18, 2017, 07:12:20 AM »

Quote from: Stubborn

Quote from: Croix de Fer

Not all Jєωs will convert. In fact, only one-third of the Jєωs will convert to the Catholic Church, and they'll likely convert upon Jesus Christ's return, when they'll say, "blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord".

I don't normally pay much attention to these types of threads but one thing is certain - Christ comes to judge the living and the dead at His second coming, not to save anyone - He did that during His first coming. So if ever you read Jєωs will convert upon His return, know that idea is error. They need to convert sometime prior to the second coming, prior to "that dreadful day".

Dies Irae teaches of that day when Our Lord shall come again, this time He comes in all His glory, in full array as judge, no humble shepherd this time. When He comes again, even the saints will tremble!

That Day of Wrath, that dreadful day, shall heaven and earth in ashes lay....

...For now before the Judge severe,
all hidden things must plain appear,
no crime can pass unpunished here.

O what shall I, so guilty, plead?
And who for me will intercede?
When even Saints shall comfort need!

You're right. Thanks for helping me see that more clearly.

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #5 on:** March 18, 2017, 10:12:15 AM »

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In the book Fundamentals of Catholic Dogma, in the section on the second coming of Christ, are listed the signs on the Second Coming. Almost everything can be said to have already transpired, except the Conversion of the Jєωs.

1. The preaching of the Gospel to the entire world can be said to have already happened. Not only that, nowadays, people now have access to a machine translated 1917 Catholic Encyclopedia in their pockets, all around the world.
2. The falling away from the Faith can be said to have already happened. We have lived the cultural revolutions of the 1960's, many thousands of Priests and Religious left the Priesthood and the Religious life, in droves. I don't think most traditional have a problem with understanding there has been a falling away.
3. The appearance of the Antichrist can be said to have already happened, with the LaSallette secret alone.
4. We have had severe tribulations, hurricanes, tsunamis, bitter persecutions, the most bitter kind, with atheistic socialism and more.
5. The conversion of the Jєωs. There are 5 signs listed in this book as signs of the second coming. The one that can not really be said to have happened, is the conversion of the Jєωs.

Not all Jєωs will convert. In fact, only one-third of the Jєωs will convert to the Catholic Church, and they'll likely convert upon Jesus Christ's return, when they'll say, "blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord".

Prior to His return, as told in Prophecy Of Zacharias 13:8-9, two-thirds of all Jєωs will be exterminated by the Lord's holy and just punishment.

Not all Jєωs will convert - they will convert at upon His Return .

Do these come from your own reading, or did you see this mentioned somewhere?

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #6 on:** March 18, 2017, 06:08:53 PM »

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #7 on:** March 18, 2017, 06:12:33 PM »

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Not all Jєωs will convert. In fact, only one-third of the Jєωs will convert to the Catholic Church, and they'll likely convert upon Jesus Christ's return, when they'll say, "blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord".

Prior to His return, as told in Prophecy Of Zacharias 13:8-9, two-thirds of all Jєωs will be exterminated by the Lord's holy and just punishment.

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Not all Jєωs will convert - they will convert at upon His Return .

Do these come from your own reading, or did you see this mentioned somewhere?

Refer to Stubborn's comment regarding when they convert.

Regarding my comment in blue, see the Haydock Catholic Bible 1859 HERE and the accompanying commentary apropos to the verses.

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Ver. 8. Third. The greatest part of mankind will be lost. (Haydock) --- The few Jєωs who embrace the faith will be absorbed in the Gentile converts, and suffered to live, though proved by persecutions, while the rest shall be exterminated. Both shall lose their name, and be styled Christians. (Calmet) --- Those who adhere to Judaism, or to paganism, cannot be saved. This is the privilege only of Christian Catholics, who live piously, and are selected by God's grace. (Worthington)

Ver. 9. Fire. The Church was persecuted during the first centuries; but always became more pure, and the blood of martyrs increased her numbers. (Calmet) --- She faithfully adhered to God. (Haydock) --- The Jєωs say this will not take place at last: "but we assert that it is already accomplished."

Änσnymσus · « **Reply #8 on:** March 30, 2017, 09:21:21 PM »

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