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Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
« on: October 27, 2024, 03:00:30 AM »
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  • :( I really feel embarrassed to ask this but... Basically I have an easy to trigger stomach and sometimes I get diarrhea and/or stomachache in the morning. And this wouldnt be an issue in the old days if the Masses are nearby or at least I could stop in the middle of the trip to use the loo. However, for me it's 3hr trip by myself with hardly anywhere to stop in the middle until I get to the spot and I feel that is too mentally draining for travelling with this condition. Yet I feel bad for missing Mass for a seemingly minor issue like this because I assumed to miss Mass for health reason it has to be something more serious. What do you think? Is it a justifiable reason to miss Sunday Mass for the travel time or sickness like this?

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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #1 on: October 27, 2024, 05:16:42 AM »
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  • :( I really feel embarrassed to ask this but... Basically I have an easy to trigger stomach and sometimes I get diarrhea and/or stomachache in the morning. And this wouldnt be an issue in the old days if the Masses are nearby or at least I could stop in the middle of the trip to use the loo. However, for me it's 3hr trip by myself with hardly anywhere to stop in the middle until I get to the spot and I feel that is too mentally draining for travelling with this condition. Yet I feel bad for missing Mass for a seemingly minor issue like this because I assumed to miss Mass for health reason it has to be something more serious. What do you think? Is it a justifiable reason to miss Sunday Mass for the travel time or sickness like this?
    1st of all, yes, you are justified in missing Mass in your circuмstances. 

    If you live more than an hour from Mass, that by itself it a reasonable excuse for missing Mass.

    Diarrhea and/or vomiting is also an excuse by itself as you might not be able to even sit through Mass if it is bad enough.

    I think probably the best answer would be to say:

    Make it when you can with your situation but don't feel bad if you can not.  If you can not make it, maybe you can make a spiritual Holy Communion and watch a Mass somewhere or read the Mass in your Missal?


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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #2 on: October 27, 2024, 06:32:40 AM »
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  • 15 decades of The Rosary would be another way of meeting your obligation in your case

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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #3 on: October 27, 2024, 09:32:27 AM »
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  • 15 decades of The Rosary would be another way of meeting your obligation in your case
    Strictly speaking, aside from the divine mandate to keep the Lord’s Day holy, nothing else fulfills the Sunday Mass obligation aside from assisting in person at Holy Mass itself.  That said, if you have an illness that reasonably prevents you from going to Mass, as you seem to have, then the obligation does not exist.

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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #4 on: October 27, 2024, 10:38:56 AM »
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  • Kind of irrelevant, but I also live more than 3 hrs from mass. It helped one time when we stayed in a hotel and I could get there on time. But of course, I don't go often. I've done 3-3.5 hr one-way car drives twice with my baby and I and it was pretty rough. How often are you going to mass? I find once a month to every two months is consistent. I can't go in the winters because the roads are terrible. 

    I pray that there can be a TLM two hours from me in the bigger city because at least I can easily get groceries and that would save on running errands. 


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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #5 on: October 27, 2024, 11:01:21 AM »
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  • Where do you live?  

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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #6 on: October 27, 2024, 11:35:42 AM »
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  • Sometimes I have a similar problem.  I also drive 3-3.5 hrs and try to attend once per month.  Like FarmerWife,  Often I don’t go in winter because of dangerous road conditions.  I’m older, so have no baby to care for.  Staying in a motel is expensive, and I have to save up gas and toll money for the monthly trip.
    It may sound a bit “off,” but the larger part of my drive is on rural roads.  If I have an emergency, I make a dash into the woods to “visit Mrs. Murphy,” as we called it on family road trips when I was a youngster.  Just be neat, if TP is used, be sure to bury it well or bring it back in a container to be disposed of later.  Depending upon the situation, you may be able to use tree leaves or moss.  Carry with you in your vehicle, hand sanitizer, wet wipes, or just a jar with water, soap, a little bleach.  Splash a little on your hands.  In the days before conveniences like today, that’s what we did.  

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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #7 on: October 27, 2024, 11:54:46 AM »
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  • Sometimes I have a similar problem.  I also drive 3-3.5 hrs and try to attend once per month.  Like FarmerWife,  Often I don’t go in winter because of dangerous road conditions.  I’m older, so have no baby to care for.  Staying in a motel is expensive, and I have to save up gas and toll money for the monthly trip.
    It may sound a bit “off,” but the larger part of my drive is on rural roads.  If I have an emergency, I make a dash into the woods to “visit Mrs. Murphy,” as we called it on family road trips when I was a youngster.  Just be neat, if TP is used, be sure to bury it well or bring it back in a container to be disposed of later.  Depending upon the situation, you may be able to use tree leaves or moss.  Carry with you in your vehicle, hand sanitizer, wet wipes, or just a jar with water, soap, a little bleach.  Splash a little on your hands.  In the days before conveniences like today, that’s what we did. 
    I actually live 3-3.5hrs from two SSPX chapels. One in the city and one in the rural. The rural one is easier to go to since they have a later mass time and there are more families with children. And most of the driving is on rural roads especially if I go to the small town TLM. I sometimes have to use the bathroom on the side of the road or just time the drive so I can use it at a fast food place. 

    This is a bit extreme, but you could do a bucket and bag if you needed to do a number 2. And then dispose of it in the trash. I know an older couple took their RV so they can have easy access to a bathroom. 


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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #8 on: October 27, 2024, 11:54:59 AM »
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  • I actually live 3-3.5hrs from two SSPX chapels. One in the city and one in the rural. The rural one is easier to go to since they have a later mass time and there are more families with children. And most of the driving is on rural roads especially if I go to the small town TLM. I sometimes have to use the bathroom on the side of the road or just time the drive so I can use it at a fast food place.

    This is a bit extreme, but you could do a bucket and bag if you needed to do a number 2. And then dispose of it in the trash. I know an older couple took their RV so they can have easy access to a bathroom.
    That was me.

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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #9 on: October 27, 2024, 12:44:48 PM »
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  • As far as I know, in these circuмstances you mentioned, you are not obliged to go to mass even if you are not sick.

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    To avoid self-deception the faithful should consult their pastor or other prudent person if there is doubt about the sufficiency of the excuse.


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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #10 on: October 27, 2024, 02:34:26 PM »
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  • I don’t have your problem, but maybe you could stop eating earlier than usual the day before and then don’t eat or drink anything prior to your drive if you really want or need (confession) to attend Mass. 


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    Re: Minor sickness preventing going to Mass
    « Reply #11 on: October 28, 2024, 02:26:16 PM »
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  • This is a bit extreme, but you could do a bucket and bag if you needed to do a number 2. And then dispose of it in the trash. I know an older couple took their RV so they can have easy access to a bathroom.
    At the risk of indelicacy, for #2 in the woods, lean with your back against a tree in a sitting position to do your business.  It’s easier to get up when done for those who can’t do gymnastics.  Think of it as fertilizer.