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« on: January 10, 2015, 08:21:43 PM »
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  • Friday, January 9, 2015
    Roberto de Mattei: the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome ~ "the sign of victory will be the taking of Rome... Europe will be captured..."

     
    The upcoming print edition of Polonia Christiana (Nr.24) will carry the complete and extensive article by the Italian scholar and historian, Roberto de Mattei on the mortal threat that Islam and Jihad pose to the West. Demoralized and seduced by a vile moral relativism, that is quickly transitioning into totalitarianism - as exemplified in its glorification of abortion, and the persecution  of those who oppose it - apostate Europe and the West is imploding. I translate here highlights as published on the website of Polonia Christiana. The article could not have been published at a more auspicious moment, as Jihadi forces shake a degenerate France. The original Polish source is here.


    The West can not win the coming war with increasingly densely woven radical jihadi international network, which turns towards the heart of Christian civilization - Rome. Why? Because it hates itself.

    In the last few months, the West "discovered" the problem of the existence of Islam. Even the patriarch of radical progessivism, Eugenio Scalfari and the privileged partner of Pope Francis said that the western world is standing before a war of religion and opposing civilizations ("La Repubblica", August 24, 2014).

    As in any war, so in this - the stronger will prevail. But as teach all great strategists, the  soldier's strength lies primarily in the psychological and moral attitude that is born of the legitimate love for a specific reason, as well as opposition towards the enemy. Today, the West is close to surrender because  its own identity is seen as the main enemy, and is accompanied by - this Western self-hatred - a love, or at least an acceptance of affirmation of the enemy, which presents itself as a liberator. Who does not remember the enthusiasm for the "Arab Spring" and reports of alleged conversion of Islam to democracy?

    The dictatorships of Saddam or Gaddafi's were not replaced with systems that exalt freedom and human rights, but with chaos in which religious and political factions took the the place of the old despots. In North Africa and the Middle East, the Islamic State has brought bloody destruction and turmoil amongst clans and tribes of Sunnis and Shiites, Arabs and Kurds, and for which the the price is paid for above all by the Christians and Westerners.

    From these tribal revolutions was born the Islamic State - an entity that, in contrast to Al-Qaeda, has a specific territory, has a real army and officials responsible for finance, and above all, has a specific and openly declared main objective: the restitution of the caliphate. If the word should claim to surprise one, or if one thinks that it is a rash, false, and pathological vision of Islam,  then such an opinion only shows a very scant knowledge of the religion of Muhammad. The World Caliphate is not a dream of only fundamentalists - is the goal of all of Islam.

    (...)

    Also tragic, and what an eloquent symbol of the defeat of the West, for which there was no sudden salvific help from Providence, is a picture of an American journalist James Foley kneeling beside the executioner just before beheading. It seems that Foley was a good Catholic, but his death was not that of a martyr. Before his execution he did not make a profession of faith, but uttered a type of apostasy - although not against religion, but against their own country and civilization (though most likely dictated by the kidnappers anyway).

    "I wish I was an American. I turn to my friends, my family and my loved ones to rise up against my real murderer - the US government, because that's what happens to me is the sole result of its self-importance and criminal character.

    This is reminiscent of notice of termination of the war sent by the Turks in 1683 to the emperor Leopold I of the  Habsburgs: We're going to strike your arms on the ground and crush them (...). Expect us in Vienna, where we will cut you, you insignificant nothings before God's creatures, which can only be giaur.*  

    The March on Rome

    The ultimate goal of Islam is to conquer the capitol of Christianity/Christendom. As noted by Nicoletta Tiliacos, during his sermon at the beginning of Ramadan at a mosque in Mosul on Friday, July 4, of which the contents of the sermon were distributed throughout the world, Abu Bakr al Baghdadi al-Husseini al Qurashi - now the self-proclaimed caliph Ibrahim - calling on all Muslims to join him,  in the promise that Islam will  sweep into Rome and dominate the entire globe ("Il Foglio", July 21, 2014). Similar words were spoken by a few years earlier by Sheikh Yusuf al-Qaradawi, the spiritual leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, and the fatwa announced on February 27, 2005: despite the pessimism planted in our ranks, ultimately Islam will rule the world and be its master. The sign of victory will be the taking of  Rome, Europe will be captured - defeated, Islam will grow and become a force that controls the entire European continent.

    Rome is still the heart of the world and remains the ultimate goal of those who hate Christian civilization. It is also the only source of a possible rebirth. Eugenio Scalfari is right - this is a religious war. But - as recalled Sister Lucy of the Mother of God -  on January 3, 1944, was urged her to write down the third secret of Fatima - that there is is only one God and one true religion. In my soul a quiet voice spoke, certifies Lucia, there is only one faith, one baptism, one Church: Holy, Catholic and Apostolic. In eternity, Heaven! This is Heaven, towards which we must ascend a plea for help in defending the one and only Faith Civilization.

    (Trans. Barona)

    [* "Gaiur" in an offensive Turkish word for "infidel"]
    http://www.torontocatholicwitness.blogspot.ca/2015/01/roberto-de-mattei-objective-of-jihad-is.html?m=1


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    the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome
    « Reply #1 on: January 11, 2015, 12:55:02 AM »
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  • So true.  

    West, if you cannot stop hating your Father in Heaven, then submission to Islam is your fate.  Islam is your future.  You will conduct commerce in Islam.  You will be arrested by police in Islam.  You will be denied church in Islam.  You will modify your diet in Islam.  The liberals and liberal atheists already have a fondness for Islam.  And if you ever had any children or grandchildren, they too will suffer and perhaps die in Islam.  That is what happens when you abandon God.  He abandons you.  
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle


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    the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome
    « Reply #2 on: January 22, 2015, 05:34:57 PM »
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  •  :applause:

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    the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome
    « Reply #3 on: January 22, 2015, 05:55:34 PM »
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  • You know what's scary?  Just substitute Jєω for Islam.  And the difference is that THEY have already won, temporally speaking.  The world is totally enslaved by them and it will continue to implode.  They have already destroyed Rome.  They stoke the Muslim fire, to assist in wiping us out.  Muslim stooges blindly serve their Jєω masters as much as the West.  Yes we should fear Muslims but you'd better fear the puppetmaster more.  It is the Jєωs that must be conquered first or our efforts against Muslims will be in vain.  Mark my words.


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    the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome
    « Reply #4 on: January 23, 2015, 12:44:40 AM »
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  • Seems to be a few strange typos and errata in this article:

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    Also tragic, and what an eloquent symbol of the defeat of the West, for which there was no sudden salvific help from Providence, is a picture of an American journalist James Foley kneeling beside the executioner just before beheading.



    I've watched the James Foley video at least ten times and saw no such thing as described above.

    Surely what was meant was:

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    James Foley kneeling beside the lapel-miked British actor just before an odd jump cut edit, followed by an alternate shot of the British actor making bloodless sawing motions against the oddly placid Foley's throat with an obviously dull stage knife before fading to black and fading back in with a conveniently easy to fake still image of what looks like a severed head resting on a dead body.



    An inelegant and unweildy amendment, I admit, but at least accurate. And that accuracy makes all the difference in the world when attempting to comprehend the larger issues that the this article is tackling.



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    the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome
    « Reply #5 on: January 23, 2015, 02:20:07 AM »
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  • How exactly will they accomplish this?

    Where are their trained armies, their generals, their supply ships, their war ships?  Where are their paratroopers?

    Where are their experienced soldiers, who know how to take and give orders, maintain disciple, achieve objectives?  Where are their nuclear weapons, missile delivery systems, radar jammers, laser guided bombs.

    How would they feed themselves when Europe or the US blockaded them?  They import far more food then they produce.  What are the population going to live on?  Pistachio nuts?  They'll all have the runs.

    Russia, the largest country in the world, with enormous natural resources and a highly educated population, with vast tracts of arable land is not easily able to win a war with a small neighbour?  Sure it can annex the a Crimea, where the vast majority of the population wanted to be part of a Russia, but to do it, it has had to suffer economic sanctions which are not trivial.

    How would the Muslim world mount an invasion and take a major capital city of Europe?

    I sincerely cannot see how this could be achieved by the Muslim world.  I have travelled extensively and most of these countries can't even bury their own trash and they hate each other and kill each other far more often than they kill non-Muslims.

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    the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome
    « Reply #6 on: January 23, 2015, 08:01:04 AM »
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  • Russia and the US will indirectly help them.  Here in America these terrorist groups have fundraisers where our elected officials seeking re-election kiss the Koran.

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    « Reply #7 on: January 23, 2015, 08:46:01 AM »
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  • Mattei and those other Italian scribblers much beloved of the ʝʊdɛօphile Rorate Caeli moderators are what the French call flâneurs: polished, articulate, but vain and feckless men-about-town. It is hardly an exaggeration to say that hanging around the Vatican in order to hear and contribute to gossip is what Mattei does to pay for the several Camparis and soda that presumably end a typical afternoon of his. Mattei talks and talks and talks whilst saying little of substance and frequently even less that comports with the obvious facts of whatever situation he deigns to comment upon. (He might fit in very neatly here at CathInfo.)

    While ggreg may underestimate the havoc that the sheer numbers of the catastrophically expanding Muslim population will certainly generate ere much longer, it can hardly be asserted with a straight face that Muslims are the brains behind the already near-complete subjugation of Rome and the rest of the West (note that Mattei talks about this collapse as if it's still to come!).

    The Muslims are the marauding grunts and cannon fodder of the invading army. Figuratively speaking, none of them ever rise beyond the rank of first sergeant. The officers are, to a man, Jєωs, and there is not a single Western institution that they have not already at least occupied; indeed, most such institutions they control outright and in plain view.

    Were Mattei to remark upon this state of affairs, the only afternoon tipple he'd be able to afford would soon be a Miller Lite—and not many of those either!


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    the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome
    « Reply #8 on: January 23, 2015, 10:17:11 AM »
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    Mattei and those other Italian scribblers much beloved of the ʝʊdɛօphile Rorate Caeli moderators are what the French call flâneurs: polished, articulate, but vain and feckless men-about-town. It is hardly an exaggeration to say that hanging around the Vatican in order to hear and contribute to gossip is what Mattei does to pay for the several Camparis and soda that presumably end a typical afternoon of his. Mattei talks and talks and talks whilst saying little of substance and frequently even less that comports with the obvious facts of whatever situation he deigns to comment upon. (He might fit in very neatly here at CathInfo.)

    While ggreg may underestimate the havoc that the sheer numbers of the catastrophically expanding Muslim population will certainly generate ere much longer, it can hardly be asserted with a straight face that Muslims are the brains behind the already near-complete subjugation of Rome and the rest of the West (note that Mattei talks about this collapse as if it's still to come!).

    The Muslims are the marauding grunts and cannon fodder of the invading army. Figuratively speaking, none of them ever rise beyond the rank of first sergeant. The officers are, to a man, Jєωs, and there is not a single Western institution that they have not already at least occupied; indeed, most such institutions they control outright and in plain view.

    Were Mattei to remark upon this state of affairs, the only afternoon tipple he'd be able to afford would soon be a Miller Lite—and not many of those either!


    This could only be Claudel... and he is right on the money. This gives voice to what I have been thinking for some time about Rorate Caeli and their swooning fandom for Mattei and his ilk, and does so better than I could have.


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    « Reply #9 on: January 23, 2015, 11:23:44 AM »
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    it can hardly be asserted with a straight face that Muslims are the brains behind the already near-complete subjugation of Rome and the rest of the West (note that Mattei talks about this collapse as if it's still to come!).

    The Muslims are the marauding grunts and cannon fodder of the invading army. Figuratively speaking, none of them ever rise beyond the rank of first sergeant. The officers are, to a man, Jєωs, and there is not a single Western institution that they have not already at least occupied; indeed, most such institutions they control outright and in plain view.


    I appreciate the alarm bell ringing of some members here regarding Muslims, but they are missing the big picture -
               ^^^ THIS ^^^^

    Why do some Catholics refuse to accept this fundamental?

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    the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome
    « Reply #10 on: January 23, 2015, 11:49:56 AM »
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    Russia and the US will indirectly help them.  Here in America these terrorist groups have fundraisers where our elected officials seeking re-election kiss the Koran.


    If they indirectly help them, that still leaves the Muslims to do all of the above tasks.  None of which are they capable of.

    The Italians, if they wished to, have the brains and the engineering skills to put a small rocket in orbit.

    What Muslim nation in the entire Muslim world could do such a thing?  They don't produce any armaments themselves even.  They buy everything from the non-Muslim world.


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    the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome
    « Reply #11 on: January 23, 2015, 12:58:29 PM »
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    it can hardly be asserted with a straight face that Muslims are the brains behind the already near-complete subjugation of Rome and the rest of the West (note that Mattei talks about this collapse as if it's still to come!).

    The Muslims are the marauding grunts and cannon fodder of the invading army. Figuratively speaking, none of them ever rise beyond the rank of first sergeant. The officers are, to a man, Jєωs, and there is not a single Western institution that they have not already at least occupied; indeed, most such institutions they control outright and in plain view.


    I appreciate the alarm bell ringing of some members here regarding Muslims, but they are missing the big picture -
               ^^^ THIS ^^^^

    Why do some Catholics refuse to accept this fundamental?


    Hear, hear.

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    the objective of Jihad is the capture of Rome
    « Reply #12 on: January 23, 2015, 03:01:31 PM »
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  • Despite the fact that these Christian-Democrat buffoons cannot and will not correctly identify the true enemy here, I did think that one comment about the reason for the West's failure was good : The West will fail because it hates itself.  There's quite a bit of truth there.  I don't believe that, in the end, Europe will go down without a fight, but the self-destruction that is Liberalism will have to be countered with a vigorous love for Christendom to make that so.  Piety and patriotism are to love one's fathers and one's community, the benefactors that create and foster one's life.  Liberalism, then, from this perspective, is fundamentally a lack of gratitude and humility.  The Liberal hates his fathers and therefore hates himself.

    What remains of Christendom -- what remains of the descendants of the great Christian men of the past -- will be snuffed out forever without a proper rekindling of due filial piety for all that our forebears gave us as a patrimony.  We will be the first ones to drop the torch ; the first ones to be so selfish that we simply allow the Mohammedans to replace us -- a feeble, disgusting, decrepit race.  The Jєωs first make us servile cattle through debt, perversion, and pleasure.  Then they replace us with the stupid, carnal apes called Mohammedans.

    Who wants to be of that number, the last of a pathetic and dwindling group who had it all and squandered it for filthy pastimes, horrible art, and self-indulgent effeminacy ?  I think one could use that point as fuel to build up a little morale and to encourage young men to improve themselves.  One only has to present the stark choice : Be a man or die an unloved, limp-wristed coward.  If the case for that being the fork in the road directly before us can be convincingly made, and if a viable way to act upon that harsh reality is presented, we could still have a fighting chance to restore Christendom.

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    « Reply #13 on: January 23, 2015, 11:08:46 PM »
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  • And my objective is for the conversion of the Muslims to the Catholic Faith.

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    « Reply #14 on: January 24, 2015, 12:02:06 AM »
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  • They might have a struggle finding anyone in Rome who can teach them it.