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« on: May 14, 2013, 01:36:55 PM »
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  • Comte the masonic philosopher whose slogan Ordem e Progresso is emblazoned on the Flag of Brazil stated that his ideal society would worship woman.

    Although it seems unlikely he ever would have imagined a situation like today.

    Our society truly does worship the talented, pretty, ambitious young woman with "dreams and passions" and lays the promises of the world at her feet.

    Many of those who engage in this worship say that "abortion is bad for women."

    It is traumatic, it should be avoided, it causes regrets.  What is bad for them, is that it is bad for women.

    It interferes with the purity of the feminist ideal in the minds of more old-fashioned people (or at least people who like to pretend they are old-fashioned), especially those raised in religion.

    The important thing to understand, is that these people still hold to the religion of feminism.  They don't like taking the religion to its logical conclusions.  But they still hold to it.

    The fact that the children these women would be bearing and raising and giving to the world, (which far exceeds the value of their "talents" and the pride and pleasure of their privileged position), instead of being killed, are rather prevented from being brought into existence.

    The people who hold to the feminist religion do not want what societies of the past wanted for young women.  They reject those values.  Those values were "degrading to women"

    And it they probably don't even understand why they believe it.

    The feminist religion is a return to temple prostitution.  To child sacrifice.  

    Pretend this exaggerated esteem for women is innocent, put a long skirt and veil on these goddess girls, it will not generally change what will happen to the young women whose parents have unwittingly embraced feminism.  It just makes the eventual "sacrifice" that much more abject and humiliating for its victims, the Christian people.




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    « Reply #1 on: May 14, 2013, 01:50:39 PM »
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    Pretend this exaggerated esteem for women is innocent


    Let's make something clear.

    It is an exaggerated esteem for the unmarried, childless woman with high aspirations.

    It is contemptuous of young married mothers.


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    « Reply #2 on: May 14, 2013, 02:28:47 PM »
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  • Is this shaping up to be yet another thread about slutty girls who pretend to be trads?

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    « Reply #3 on: May 14, 2013, 02:41:45 PM »
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  • The thread is not about personal sins or hypocrisy.

    It's about values.  Truly traditional values versus late 20th Century early 21st Century values.  Which ones do most trads really support?

    People who try to hybridize the pro-life position with "authentic feminism" are deceiving themselves or pulling a snow-job.

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    « Reply #4 on: May 14, 2013, 02:46:23 PM »
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  • One would expect to see more babies among "pro-life" young women.

    Now, I will grant there are some young mothers with babies.  

    And they're a blessed sight.  Really enchanting.

    If trads were really traditional though, it would be much more common.

    If most "trads" priests were really traditional, their attitudes would be entirely different than what is typically encountered.


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    « Reply #5 on: May 14, 2013, 03:11:13 PM »
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  • I would not mix trad and those in the pro-life movement. Most of those in pro-life groups are NO, many are into CCL or another NFP,  sex-ed for children, their distorted modesty, perverted Theology of the Body, EWTN, JPII teachings, and are hard core GOP supporters. I'm not saying ALL but this is what I've seen.

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    « Reply #6 on: May 14, 2013, 03:14:37 PM »
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    I would not mix trad and those in the pro-life movement.


    There's a lot of intersection between the two.  What typically happens is that girls raised trad and in the pro-life movement tend to gravitate towards neotraditionalism, the cult of the conciliar Popes, etc.

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    « Reply #7 on: May 14, 2013, 03:34:50 PM »
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    I would not mix trad and those in the pro-life movement.


    There's a lot of intersection between the two.  What typically happens is that girls raised trad and in the pro-life movement tend to gravitate towards neotraditionalism, the cult of the conciliar Popes, etc.


    Doesn't sound like the parents were trad to begin with if they are raising their children in the pro-life movement?
    ~Tiffany


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    « Reply #8 on: May 14, 2013, 04:15:48 PM »
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    Doesn't sound like the parents were trad to begin with if they are raising their children in the pro-life movement?
    ~Tiffany


    Plenty of trads are involved in pro-life politics.  There should be trads who are actively pro-life in politics.

    On the other hand, it seems fairly apparent that pro-life movement is pretty thoroughly intertwined with the CCL/NFP/cult of conciliar popes movement.

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    « Reply #9 on: May 14, 2013, 05:09:44 PM »
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    Is this shaping up to be yet another thread about slutty girls who pretend to be trads?


    Those are my favorite threads!

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    « Reply #10 on: May 14, 2013, 05:49:18 PM »
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  • It would be wise for a Trad girl to spend less time in the pro-life world (which is fraught with danger because of the intense visceral hatred for abortion) because of mixing on a social level with NO's, who are right to oppose abortion (what monster doesn't?) but actually engage in birth control, unnaturally spacing their children, and the attendance at a non-Catholic worship venue.  

    Trad girls should focus on their interior prayer life.  Supporting their Trad Chapel and, if married, they should be focused on building a Catholic household - which I know they are doing.  

    Considering the condition of the Catholic Church today, it would be an act of Angelic Heroism if lovely Trad girls who don't become nuns would have at least six children or more.  


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    « Reply #11 on: May 14, 2013, 05:53:04 PM »
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    it would be an act of Angelic Heroism


    No, it would simply be the duty of Catholic women who are called to marriage.

    They are heroic angels if they marry and don't engage in family planning?

    Really?

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    « Reply #12 on: May 14, 2013, 06:13:38 PM »
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  • The problem with the pro-life movement is that the anti-abortion position begins to become more important than the Faith.  It becomes an ecuмenical movement.  It can become a "civil rights" oriented movement.

    Whatever it is, it hardly seems to be inducing young Catholic women to embark eagerly on Catholic family life.

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    « Reply #13 on: May 15, 2013, 11:19:25 PM »
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  • After world war II, women went from a very small percentage of the labor force to around 50% of the labor force.  Like blacks, Jєωs and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, women are (as a group) recipients of university, government and corporate sponsored "affirmative action" programs.  An incredibly small percentage of our nations annual wealth production actually goes to wages for what most people would consider as "workers."  Unions have been destroyed, industries have been de-regulated and huge numbers of good jobs have been "offshored."  Thus, 50% of full time american workers earn less than 25k per year.  White christian men, of good morals are considered to be recipients of white, male privilege.  Hence, they get little support from their government, big business and academia.  

    For a white catholic woman to have a large family, she needs to be able to rely on her husband for financial security, for herself and her children for decades to come.  Given the situation for most men, that seems like an unrealistic goal for most women.  

    Therefore, it isn't surprising that most women are foregoing motherhood, in favor of a job.  

    If a woman is competitive enough to catch that minority of men who earn 50k per year or more and have proven that they've got the "stuff" to consistently beat the other men in competition for those kind of jobs, then she can settle down, have a family and stay at home and raise her kids in home school bliss.  And, so long as she's frugal, they might live pretty well.  

    On the other hand, if a woman isn't competitive enough to "catch" that minority of men who earn 50k or above and have the "stuff" to beat most of the other men competing for another good job when the one he's got gets "offshored," then she'll have to settle for a guy who can't consistently compete his way into that top 25% of wage earners in america.  In settling she'll have to accept a lifetime of financial insecurity.  She may be faced with raising her children in poverty, which in america often means living in a high crime area, that is full of people who hate white people and can attack them with little to no consequences.  She'll know that if her husband ever gives into/is seduced by the culture around him, she may have no way of collecting financial support from him, when he decides he doesn't want the responsibility of a family anymore, because the culture has taught him to be selfish and his flesh is inclined to be anyway!  

    So yeah, if she decides to have a large family and stay home and raise her kids, with a husband like that, then I think she is going above and beyond the call of duty and I'm inclined to think that is consistent with traditional catholic teaching.  



     

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    « Reply #14 on: May 15, 2013, 11:44:58 PM »
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    Is this shaping up to be yet another thread about slutty girls who pretend to be trads?


    You know it's a great thread, one to be valued and thought about, when the owner decided it was better for his Rep score to post it anonymously (where, by the way, it can't affect one's Rep score -- for good or ill -- because it's being posted as Guest)

    Seriously, I wonder why the author didn't post this under his own name -- unless he suspects there's something wrong with it. Does he expect to get a hail of arrows for posting this? If so, why? Maybe because he sounds like a broken record sometimes?

    Just posting a very true observation here...
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