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« on: July 27, 2012, 11:19:26 PM »
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    • A hispanic on facebook posted about his son:

    His choice for confirmation dinner.  What is shown?

    A table at hooters.
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    « Reply #1 on: August 02, 2012, 04:24:01 AM »
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    • That's not because of the Novus Ordo. That person just has extremely poor taste.
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    « Reply #2 on: August 02, 2012, 05:42:28 AM »
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    • Lex orandi, lex credendi
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    « Reply #3 on: August 02, 2012, 10:26:08 PM »
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    • many novus ordo do not know the basics of the Catholic faith. Many novus ordo catholics are indifferent to sin due to poor leadership and their sinful actions.


    We just read on this site about Knights of Columbus sharing breakfast with Masons...



       
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    « Reply #4 on: August 02, 2012, 10:30:51 PM »
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    • recently,  a novus ordo Washington DC priest denied communion to a lesbian budist gαy rights activist.  Then hierarchy removed the priest and transferred him to Russia.

    There is clergy who has broken vows and raped, molested and/or harrassed children or new seminarians and think it is the norm.

    We should be trying to connect to these lost souls...
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    « Reply #5 on: August 03, 2012, 08:04:13 AM »
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    • I think & feel the same way....It is difficult to decide whether to try to convert these people or just let them remain in their ignorance. I have often tried but I seem to be wasting my time. Since they do not know the simple basics of the Faith, one cannot reason through a good argument of Faith. In addition, people do not seem to be able to think or reason logically anymore.

    A lot of truly good Priests have been thrown "under the bus" by their
    Bishops whereas they support  and defend the mischief-makers....
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    « Reply #6 on: August 03, 2012, 11:13:41 AM »
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    many novus ordo do not know the basics of the Catholic faith. Many novus ordo catholics are indifferent to sin due to poor leadership and their sinful actions.


    We just read on this site about Knights of Columbus sharing breakfast with Masons...



       


    K of C has been largely infiltrated with NWO/GOP and yes, Masons.......like the Masons, the average K of C member is not that devote and largely, indifferent.....was a member, 3rd degree, for nearly 20 yrs of K of C.......asked to be put on inactive list as I would no longer pay dues......
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    « Reply #7 on: August 12, 2012, 08:41:17 PM »
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    • The Knights of Columbus do put together a nice Friday Fish Fry!  

    However, they aren't worth being a part of.
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    « Reply #8 on: August 12, 2012, 11:34:00 PM »
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    • The problem with the NO these days is that NO parishioners are too easily scared off.  NO priests will very seldom speak about the importance of Confession and attendance at Sunday and holy day Mass, let alone sins of the flesh or sins in general.  Is it because they do not believe that anyone who sins goes to Hell?  Not likely.  If you go to an NO priest for Confession, he will acknowledge that many sins he is otherwise mum about are sinful.  If you ask him outside of Confession, he will probably agree that mortal sins are in fact mortal sins and must be repented of before receiving Communion.

    However, it seems to me that even the more orthodox-leaning NO priests are reluctant to preach against sin openly in their homilies because they do not want to drive people away.  I imagine that the balance between tact and fear is a very fine balance for an NO priest to meet--the homily would have to be electrifying enough for most of the congregation to pay attention to him (instead of reading parish literature or snoozing), but not so scary that people leave.

    I have seen priests bend so much and do everything he can to satisfy the parish, and then the parish suddenly halves when the bishop replaces him with an older priest from foreign lands whose accent is difficult.  One priest allowed the sanctuary to be turned into a movie theater for a Powerpoint presentation by the Confirmation class on the Stations of the Cross, and his justification was that the tabernacle is empty between Good Friday and Holy Saturday Mass after dusk.  The Confirmation class was subsequently confirmed, and then most of them just stopped showing up for Mass anyway.

    From my experience this is not a problem with trad parishes, where most of the laity over 18 or so show up for Mass not only to worship God, but to weigh every word and action of the priest carefully for signs of Masonic influences or Vatican sympathies so that they can then murmur among themselves about him--and then judge each other so that they can sabotage chaste romances among the young and try to out-trad each other.
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    « Reply #9 on: August 12, 2012, 11:47:48 PM »
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    If you go to an NO priest for Confession, he will acknowledge that many sins he is otherwise mum about are sinful. If you ask him outside of Confession, he will probably agree that mortal sins are in fact mortal sins and must be repented of before receiving Communion.


    Have you considered that perhaps they say what they think people expect them to say?  And that they say different things to different people depending on what those people want to hear?

    For example, Cardinal Dolan - when he invites Obama to the Al Smith dinner, don't you think he and his people will say one thing to those in power and quite another to those they claim to represent?

    They will complain publicly of persecution yet they will dine with their persecutors?
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    « Reply #10 on: August 12, 2012, 11:50:06 PM »
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    but to weigh every word and action of the priest carefully for signs of Masonic influences or Vatican sympathies


    At the indult and unfortunately now the SSPX as well that is not unnecessary.

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    and then judge each other so that they can sabotage chaste romances among the young and try to out-trad each other.


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    « Reply #11 on: August 13, 2012, 10:53:19 AM »
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    • The SSpx and Rome discussions reek of Novus ordo and their headgames.

    As for Cardinal Dolan...he and many others are politicians who seek money and power.  There is much talk around novus ordo lay circles that Dolan might be the next Pope.  Cardinal Dolan denied Christ when he went along with religion ban during the ten year anniversary of september 11, 2001.

    It is upsetting that the Knights of Columbus and Ancient order of Hibernians are becoming less and less Catholic.   Also, many groups of Legion of Mary are being replaced with protestant.

    The big problem in the church is when most Protestants convert because they marry cAtholics and of course the RCia.  Look at Tan books for example.  They have some kind of book on sale written by a former protestant woman who became a novus ordo catholic in 2002.

    These new novus ordo convert catholics are running these parishes and that is why they are going along with vatican II and its corruptions.

    *  There are some exceptions sometimes the new converts are more catholic then cradle catholics.  

    For example I bumped into a older couple yesterday from my previous novus ordo parish.  The wife is a convert.  She thinks its wonderful that the newly formed parish has several new priests and new programs.
     
     
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    « Reply #12 on: August 13, 2012, 10:58:38 AM »
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    These new novus ordo convert catholics are running these parishes and that is why they are going along with vatican II and its corruptions.


    There are many Protestant converts to the Novus Ordo who accepted the Novus Ordo because it was Protestant, and many are liberal protestants - and they like a liberal Protestant "service."  Yes, there's no doubt about that.  I don't think we can blame them for the situation, but they do represent another obstacle to any attempt to convert a parish to tradition.
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    « Reply #13 on: August 13, 2012, 10:59:34 AM »
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    • There are nine ways of being an accomplice to sin:

    counsel,  command, provoking, consent, teaching, praise, concealing/silent, not preventing, partaking, defending.

    So, merge into or stay with novus ordo, you are an accomplice to sin.  

    Bishop Williamson's recent newletter made me think of this:

    The bottom line its your choice: God or Satan?  Heaven or Hell?


    (and yeah, I used that for a sign when we were protesting
    local novus ordo heirarchy) :farmer:


     
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    « Reply #14 on: August 13, 2012, 11:53:59 AM »
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    There are nine ways of being an accomplice to sin:

    counsel,  command, provoking, consent, teaching, praise, concealing/silent, not preventing, partaking, defending.

    So, merge into or stay with novus ordo, you are an accomplice to sin.  

    Bishop Williamson's recent newletter made me think of this:

    The bottom line its your choice: God or Satan?  Heaven or Hell?


    (and yeah, I used that for a sign when we were protesting
    local novus ordo heirarchy) :farmer:


     


    The SSPX are really orthodox except for that whole disobedience thing.
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