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Author Topic: Sunday Obligation  (Read 4070 times)

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Re: Sunday Obligation
« Reply #15 on: September 29, 2019, 04:58:32 PM »
If someone's job was moved to a culturally Catholic country like Mexico, which is 99% Novus Ordo, and a smattering of Maronites and TLMs, is their dispensation lifted?

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Re: Sunday Obligation
« Reply #16 on: September 29, 2019, 07:02:56 PM »
Forgetting the Novus Ordo part of this discussion, there are thousands of eastern rite parishes throughout the world.  Eastern Catholics do not use the Novus Ordo, they use their own unique eastern Catholic liturgies.   Catholics can fulfill their obligation at these churches and avoid the Novus Ordo.  


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Re: Sunday Obligation
« Reply #17 on: September 29, 2019, 07:15:52 PM »
Forgetting the Novus Ordo part of this discussion, there are thousands of eastern rite parishes throughout the world.  Eastern Catholics do not use the Novus Ordo, they use their own unique eastern Catholic liturgies.   Catholics can fulfill their obligation at these churches and avoid the Novus Ordo.  
Presuming the Eastern liturgical rites avoided updating, that would be one thing.
However, all the Eastern bishops accepted Vatican II, so whatever they retained liturgically has been undercut by what they have accepted doctrinally from the council.

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Re: Sunday Obligation
« Reply #18 on: September 29, 2019, 07:20:52 PM »
Presuming the Eastern liturgical rites avoided updating, that would be one thing.
However, all the Eastern bishops accepted Vatican II, so whatever they retained liturgically has been undercut by what they have accepted doctrinally from the council.
I imagine the Eastern churches would be something like the FSSP: A traditional liturgical facade covering conciliar revolutionary doctrines, which it interprets as mildly as possible.
As far as the Orthodox clergy, the only one I knew (Serbian Orthodox) was ultra modernist (wearing lay clothes, getting drunk, and dropping F-bombs in front of his wife and children).  Beautiful liturgy though.

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Re: Sunday Obligation
« Reply #19 on: September 29, 2019, 08:10:29 PM »
I imagine the Eastern churches would be something like the FSSP: A traditional liturgical facade covering conciliar revolutionary doctrines, which it interprets as mildly as possible.
As far as the Orthodox clergy, the only one I knew (Serbian Orthodox) was ultra modernist (wearing lay clothes, getting drunk, and dropping F-bombs in front of his wife and children).  Beautiful liturgy though.
The difference is FSSP are ordained by Novus Ordo consecrated Bishops so they have doubtful orders.  Eastern rite priests, at least almost all of them gave orders from their own bishops who use their own eastern Catholic ordination rite for priests and consecration rite for bishops.