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Re: Storefront.org
« Reply #30 on: July 10, 2020, 10:43:04 PM »
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  • Thank you for explaining to Poche what his favorite passage from Mit Brennender Sorge actually says. He pins a good deal of his hopes for the success of his rhetoric on poor reading comprehension in other posters. That may work in a place like CAF, but it doesn't cut it around here. I hope he retires soon so that his position can be filled by a more competent shill.

    As to your claim that "White Nationalism" is a form of multiculturalism, well, yes and no. It is true, as E Michael Jones is wont to frequently point out, that "White People" is a novel ethnic category, with none of the historical and traditional legitimacy of ethnic identities like French, German, Polish, Italian, etc. But, EMJ fails to take into account what you do in your last sentence: in "melting pot" (a phrase that comes from a Jєωιѕн play, by the way) countries, the particular national ethnic identity of one's ancestors fades with each passing generation. How many third generation Italian Americans or Polish Americans make every day, fluent use of their ancestral tongues? None that I've ever met - They're all English speaking Americans who have, at best, a passing familiarity with the language of the old country.

    EMJ has repeatedly asserted that, after three generations in America (and presumably, places like Canada and Australia), the ethnic identity disappears completely and is replaced by the religious identity. This is a completely gratuitous assertion that I've never seen him give any reasonable explanation for. We're not Jҽωs. We're Catholics. Our religious identity may be intimately tied into our ethnic identities (the more intimately tied they are, the better and healthier the nation), but they are still distinct categories. The ethnic identity does not just "disappear," nor does a different category step in to pick up the slack after three generations.

    So where does that put European Americans? Many of us - probably most of us - are made up of two or more distinct ethnic stocks of European ancestry. My own children, for example, boast Irish, Maltese, Italian, Greek, English, Scottish, Welsh and French ancestry. How does one express that myriad background as an identity? At what point do they just become "Americans?" And what does it mean to be an American? Our Khazar overlords would have us believe that the magic dirt of America makes a Bangladeshi, a Korean, a Bantu, etc. members of the same "nation" as my children, despite common sense recoiling from such a ridiculous assertion.



    I posit that, in limiting the granting of American citizenship to "white persons" in the 1790 Immigration and Naturalization Act, the Founding Fathers displayed a cognizance of the fundamental need to establish in the new country the Aristotelean brotherly love - philia - vital to its unity as a nation, and did so by restricting the pool for potential Americans to "white persons" - Europeans.

    In my opinion, this was a very wise decision. The proof of that pudding is in the tasting. Sub-Saharan Africans have been in this country for four hundred years, yet are far less assimilated and integrated into the fabric of American society than European groups (Italians, let's say) who have been here only 1/4 of that time. Why? Again, it's common sense (which is now beaten out of us for being "racist" - but our grandparents understood it): Europeans - "white people" - look more or less alike, think more or less alike, have more or less compatible temperaments, and, being sons and daughters of Christendom, have the same overall cultural grounding and outlook. In establishing America as a Pan-European nation, the Founders cast the net as widely as possible to a group that allowed for as much diversity as possible while still having enough overall commonality to make a nation work.

    But including starkly different groups - Africans, Asians, even "Native Americans" - does not work (the "Native" tribes certainly know this, thus why they retain their own national identities, distinct from the American one, despite being "Native" "Americans"). "White guilt" (a diabolical ape of Catholic guilt) has been a crippling, silencing albatross around our necks for too long. We will either unite as sons and daughters of Christendom (the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan's greatest fear), or else we will continue into the morass of deracination, atomization, and miscegenation until we are no more.
    What is un democratic is when one segment of the population is disrespected and left out.  

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    Re: Storefront.org
    « Reply #31 on: July 11, 2020, 01:31:40 AM »
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  • What you should do is accept the fact that the Cherokee people have more right to this land than you do.

    The same way whites have more right to live in Europe than Africans, Asians, and Middle Easterners do, right?

    Right, Poche?


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    Re: Storefront.org
    « Reply #32 on: July 11, 2020, 01:32:38 AM »
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  • It is from Pope Pius XI. It is a clear condemnation of racial hegemony.

    Racial hegemony like the red race having more right to American land than the white race, right?
    Right, Poche?

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    Re: Storefront.org
    « Reply #33 on: July 11, 2020, 01:34:09 AM »
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  • What is un democratic is when one segment of the population is disrespected and left out.  

    Like whites being told they have less right to the land of their birth than people of another race, right?
    Right, Poche?

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    Re: Storefront.org
    « Reply #34 on: July 11, 2020, 01:34:44 AM »
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  • What you should do is accept the fact that the Cherokee people have more right to this land than you do.

    Ditto. BTW. So when are you packing your bags, asshole?


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    « Reply #35 on: July 11, 2020, 08:58:01 AM »
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  • Racial hegemony like the red race having more right to American land than the white race, right?
    Right, Poche?
    This about the latest Supreme Court decision that ruled that half of Oklahoma is actually a reservation?

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    « Reply #36 on: July 11, 2020, 09:06:50 PM »
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  • Thank you for explaining to Poche what his favorite passage from Mit Brennender Sorge actually says. He pins a good deal of his hopes for the success of his rhetoric on poor reading comprehension in other posters. That may work in a place like CAF, but it doesn't cut it around here. I hope he retires soon so that his position can be filled by a more competent shill.

    As to your claim that "White Nationalism" is a form of multiculturalism, well, yes and no. It is true, as E Michael Jones is wont to frequently point out, that "White People" is a novel ethnic category, with none of the historical and traditional legitimacy of ethnic identities like French, German, Polish, Italian, etc. But, EMJ fails to take into account what you do in your last sentence: in "melting pot" (a phrase that comes from a Jєωιѕн play, by the way) countries, the particular national ethnic identity of one's ancestors fades with each passing generation. How many third generation Italian Americans or Polish Americans make every day, fluent use of their ancestral tongues? None that I've ever met - They're all English speaking Americans who have, at best, a passing familiarity with the language of the old country.

    EMJ has repeatedly asserted that, after three generations in America (and presumably, places like Canada and Australia), the ethnic identity disappears completely and is replaced by the religious identity. This is a completely gratuitous assertion that I've never seen him give any reasonable explanation for. We're not Jҽωs. We're Catholics. Our religious identity may be intimately tied into our ethnic identities (the more intimately tied they are, the better and healthier the nation), but they are still distinct categories. The ethnic identity does not just "disappear," nor does a different category step in to pick up the slack after three generations.

    So where does that put European Americans? Many of us - probably most of us - are made up of two or more distinct ethnic stocks of European ancestry. My own children, for example, boast Irish, Maltese, Italian, Greek, English, Scottish, Welsh and French ancestry. How does one express that myriad background as an identity? At what point do they just become "Americans?" And what does it mean to be an American? Our Khazar overlords would have us believe that the magic dirt of America makes a Bangladeshi, a Korean, a Bantu, etc. members of the same "nation" as my children, despite common sense recoiling from such a ridiculous assertion.



    I posit that, in limiting the granting of American citizenship to "white persons" in the 1790 Immigration and Naturalization Act, the Founding Fathers displayed a cognizance of the fundamental need to establish in the new country the Aristotelean brotherly love - philia - vital to its unity as a nation, and did so by restricting the pool for potential Americans to "white persons" - Europeans.

    In my opinion, this was a very wise decision. The proof of that pudding is in the tasting. Sub-Saharan Africans have been in this country for four hundred years, yet are far less assimilated and integrated into the fabric of American society than European groups (Italians, let's say) who have been here only 1/4 of that time. Why? Again, it's common sense (which is now beaten out of us for being "racist" - but our grandparents understood it): Europeans - "white people" - look more or less alike, think more or less alike, have more or less compatible temperaments, and, being sons and daughters of Christendom, have the same overall cultural grounding and outlook. In establishing America as a Pan-European nation, the Founders cast the net as widely as possible to a group that allowed for as much diversity as possible while still having enough overall commonality to make a nation work.

    But including starkly different groups - Africans, Asians, even "Native Americans" - does not work (the "Native" tribes certainly know this, thus why they retain their own national identities, distinct from the American one, despite being "Native" "Americans"). "White guilt" (a diabolical ape of Catholic guilt) has been a crippling, silencing albatross around our necks for too long. We will either unite as sons and daughters of Christendom (the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan's greatest fear), or else we will continue into the morass of deracination, atomization, and miscegenation until we are no more.

    Given the Gaussian IQ-curves you recommended elsewhere, you should grant American citizenship based on IQ tests. But you yourself know that that would not resolve any problem. The problem of the U.S. and the western world is not the fault of low IQ whites or blacks or whatever colour. It is the fault of the Jєωιѕн-masonic class predominantly super-saharan.

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    Re: Storefront.org
    « Reply #37 on: July 11, 2020, 09:07:25 PM »
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  • Previous post was mine.
    Men are not bound, or able to read hearts; but when they see that someone is a heretic by his external works, they judge him to be a heretic pure and simple ... Jerome points this out. (St. Robert Bellarmine)


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    Re: Storefront.org
    « Reply #38 on: July 11, 2020, 10:21:48 PM »
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  • Racial hegemony like the red race having more right to American land than the white race, right?
    Right, Poche?
    If you say so. 

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    « Reply #39 on: July 11, 2020, 10:24:30 PM »
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  • This about the latest Supreme Court decision that ruled that half of Oklahoma is actually a reservation?
    That would only be a portion of what was stolen from them. 

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    « Reply #40 on: July 11, 2020, 11:04:40 PM »
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  • That would only be a portion of what was stolen from them.
    Did the Jҽωs steal Palestine from the Palestinians?


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    « Reply #41 on: July 11, 2020, 11:56:23 PM »
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  • Did the Jҽωs steal Palestine from the Palestinians?
    Most of it. 

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    Re: Storefront.org
    « Reply #42 on: July 12, 2020, 12:46:51 AM »
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  • Given the Gaussian IQ-curves you recommended elsewhere, you should grant American citizenship based on IQ tests. But you yourself know that that would not resolve any problem. The problem of the U.S. and the western world is not the fault of low IQ whites or blacks or whatever colour. It is the fault of the Jєωιѕн-masonic class predominantly super-saharan.

    You keep putting the cart before the horse, and here, you assume that I ought to as well.

    Racial IQ data simply conforms to observable objective facts. Nobody needs to "base" anything on this data. The objective fact that sub-Saharan Africans have not peacefully, competently assimilated into the fabric of American society, despite having been here for four centuries (four times as long as European groups - i.e. Italians; Greeks; Poles - who have peacefully, competently assimilated into American society) is all the evidence anyone needs to see that our Immigration and Naturalization law of 1790 is infinitely more sound than those of 1868 and onward (especially that of 1965). The fact that Haiti - despite being an independent, self-governing nation for more than two centuries - has, since casting off her French masters, wavered between bare functionality and out-and-out savagery also renders the IQ data largely superfluous. The fact that Haiti is a Catholic nation is, in my opinion, the proverbial final nail in the coffin for the "b-but it's all about the culture!" arguments of colorblind Catholic racial egalitarians like you, who seem to think Grace transforms nature, rather than building on it.

    President James Garfield did not need any IQ data on hand when he said that he had "a strong feeling of repugnance when I think of the negro being made our political equal and I would be glad if they could be colonized, sent to heaven, or got rid of in any decent way." He made that statement some 40 years before the advent of the first IQ test.

    Finally, I might point out the silliness of your getting so bent out of shape over my posting of the IQ Bell Curve (and, my posting of it shows the main utility of the data - i.e. posting that chart pretty succinctly makes a point that might otherwise have to be made by enervatingly repeating the same historical observations and arguments that I've made ad nauseum in the past) - such that you emotionally suggest above that I "should grant American citizenship based on IQ tests." Why? The 1790 criteria was sufficient - "free white persons of good moral character." What an individual's particular intelligence is is irrelevant. We're talking big numbers here. Limit citizenship to Europeans - who are of comparable overall intelligence, look more or less alike, have more or less comparable temperaments, have a shared history and shared spiritual, philosophical, and spiritual grounding and outlook - and that provides sufficient overall homogeneity to make the foreseen pan-European American ethnostate work. The fact that internecine ethnic conflicts among European Americans (Italians vs. Irish; Poles vs. Germans, etc.) did not last more than a century, and is now a totally extinct phenomenon, bears this out. Best of all, if citizenship had been limited to the sons and daughters of Christendom, the ground for American conversion to the Catholic Faith would have been that much more fertile, as the Catholic population of the nation began to explode in the 20th Century, and mainline American Protestantism was on the wane. This outcome would have been all the more certain, had application of the "white" and "good moral character" standards of the 1790 law been sufficiently stringent to prevent Jҽωs from gaining citizenship.

    And, it is in the fact of the Jҽωs being at fault for the current state of Western Civilization that, it seems, we both agree. However, your seeming indifference to - or naivety about - the reality of racial differences, and the utter unworkability of civic nationalism and racially diverse societies, leads me to conclude that you have a rather glaring blind spot in this very vitally important area of Jєωιѕн-Masonic subversion.

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    Re: Storefront.org
    « Reply #43 on: July 12, 2020, 12:51:25 AM »
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  • If you say so.

    You said so, remember? 

    Red Indians have more right to American soil than Europeans do, right?

    So white people have more right to European soil than the Africans and Asians and Arabs currently living there?

    Yes or no?

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    « Reply #44 on: July 12, 2020, 02:03:26 AM »
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  • You said so, remember?

    Red Indians have more right to American soil than Europeans do, right?

    So white people have more right to European soil than the Africans and Asians and Arabs currently living there?

    Yes or no?
    Not if the Africans or Asians or Arabs legitimately bought the land they are on. 


     

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