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Re: St John vianney & Theresa Avila
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2018, 03:26:20 AM »
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  • Feel utter hopeless.  :-[ :-[ :o :o :o :o :o
    I mean, with all my sins growing up in novus odor (everyone goes to heaven) attitude.

    Same here.   


    I don't even know where to begin..........................
    You aren't alone. 


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    Re: St John vianney & Theresa Avila
    « Reply #16 on: June 21, 2018, 03:28:01 AM »
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  • this is what so many people are actually doing.


    Don't do this.


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    Re: St John vianney & Theresa Avila
    « Reply #17 on: June 22, 2018, 02:52:05 AM »
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  • Sex before marriage was scandalous when they got caught but it was still going on.
    Taverns were open and selling went on on Sundays, this was one of the things St. Vianney tried to change (remember no refrigeration then so markets were open for business)
    As for clothing, most people only had one or two outifits and as they were hard working rural people weren't too careful about modesty.  Many probably didn't even have enough to cover themselves.  St. Vianney was always giving away clothing .  Also the dancing St Jean said was scandalous.
    No TV internet etc.....they still found ways to sin.
    In some societies adultery was socially acceptable. 

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    Re: St John vianney & Theresa Avila
    « Reply #18 on: June 22, 2018, 10:41:43 AM »
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    Of course they had pornography. Goya and and the Marquis de Sade both got into trouble for that.

    Street prostitution was common. Concubinage was common and there were so many out of wedlock children that the foundling homes were full. My own great great grandfather did not marry my great great grandmother. They lived together.  

    Abortion was not rare.  My mother told me that when she was a little girl in her little town there was an old woman who was famed for her potions that would get a girl out of trouble.  As for modesty, consider that after the French revolution women wore thin form fitting dresses and some even wet the dresses to make the fabric cling. The Victorians were revolting against  immodesty of their parent's generation. In America Cardinal Hughes had to work very hard to teach his Irish flock to give up drinking, violent crime and moral vice. 

    There is nothing new under the sun. 


     

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    Re: St John vianney & Theresa Avila
    « Reply #19 on: June 22, 2018, 02:58:28 PM »
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  • Abortion was not rare.  My mother told me that when she was a little girl in her little town there was an old woman who was famed for her potions that would get a girl out of trouble.  
     
    Such "potions" are still available.  Women who tend to rely on herbs for everything often use three herbs together, which I will not name due to the possibility of scandal and misappropriation. I remember this because I was using herbs for other reasons about the time I was pregnant, and out of maximum precaution I stayed away from those 3 herbs, even separately, for that very reason.