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Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2024, 02:53:40 PM »
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    • The reason they(the SSPX)are doing this is for money. They could care less about saving souls. The COVID scam and Bergoglio are the best things to ever happen to the SSPX. 
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    « Reply #16 on: February 12, 2024, 02:57:36 PM »
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    • 8 priests?   When the local Sspx in this area barely has one.  Mostly here on weekends. Please correct me if I’m wrong. 

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    « Reply #17 on: February 12, 2024, 03:04:11 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 12, 2024, 02:57:36 PM
    8 priests?  When the local Sspx in this area barely has one.  Mostly here on weekends. Please correct me if I’m wrong.


    Yes, that is correct. South Florida has one priest in an area of over six million people. Yet they have one in Brooksville, FL, with a population of about eight thousand.
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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #18 on: February 12, 2024, 03:29:55 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 12, 2024, 12:28:38 PM

    He sounds like an indulter who has no idea about what's been going on in Traditionalism the past 50 years.  Nothing wrong with that, but in regards to Tradition, he sounds like a total newbie.


    Yes, I stand by what I said AND agree with the above.

    I didn't say anything about how RIGHT he was -- just that he wasn't lying or faking anything. He's reporting news and the objective status, policies, and goings-on at his SSPX chapel, which he totally supports. That was my point.

    Of course he's a good deal blind to the big picture. That goes without saying.
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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #19 on: February 12, 2024, 04:00:24 PM »
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    • Quote from: Matthew on February 12, 2024, 03:29:55 PM
    He's reporting news and the objective status, policies, and goings-on at his SSPX chapel, which he totally supports. That was my point.

    ... in other words, that he's not some "hostile witness," i.e. someone with some beef against SSPX, so his account is most likely quite credible.
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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #20 on: February 12, 2024, 04:09:03 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 12, 2024, 11:17:57 AM
    I warmly encourage you to visit. It's a great church and we're very blessed. If it's your first time, I'd come to the Sunday high mass at 9:30 am to get the full experience.
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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #21 on: February 12, 2024, 04:12:45 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 12, 2024, 02:57:36 PM
    8 priests?  When the local Sspx in this area barely has one.  Mostly here on weekends. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

    Right.  There's zero excuse for this.  I know that Archbishop Lefebvre wanted the priests to live in groups, but 8 is excessive.  They could easily break part into 2 groups of 4 or even more groups of fewer than 4.  In my day, they only had like 6 priests at the seminary.  But why would any of those 8 want to give up the fine wining and dining offered (at the faithful's expense) in Sanford?  It's stuff like this, when peasants were dying of hunger in Europe while many clergy lived it up, that led to a lot of anticlericalism.  I rather disagree with the Archbishop on this point, since many faithful could benefit greatly from daily Sacraments.  Father Carley has been going it alone now for over 40 years now as a Traditional priest.
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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #22 on: February 12, 2024, 05:12:26 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on February 12, 2024, 04:12:45 PM
    Right.  There's zero excuse for this.  I know that Archbishop Lefebvre wanted the priests to live in groups, but 8 is excessive.  They could easily break part into 2 groups of 4 or even more groups of fewer than 4.  In my day, they only had like 6 priests at the seminary.  But why would any of those 8 want to give up the fine wining and dining offered (at the faithful's expense) in Sanford?  It's stuff like this, when peasants were dying of hunger in Europe while many clergy lived it up, that led to a lot of anticlericalism.  I rather disagree with the Archbishop on this point, since many faithful could benefit greatly from daily Sacraments.  Father Carley has been going it alone now for over 40 years now as a Traditional priest.


    That is exactly right. There is no excuse for it except to enjoy the fine things life offers at the faithful’s expense.--Before the SSPX closed and sold St. Philomena to Pentecostals in the area. Fr. Hopkins had a lovely house near that Church. The SSPX could have stationed a priest there and rotated every month or so with another one; that way, the priest would get to live with other priests and have someone always on the station. They decided to sell the chapel and the house without telling a single soul about it except through an announcement on their website. 
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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #23 on: February 12, 2024, 05:46:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Jr1991 on February 12, 2024, 05:12:26 PM

    That is exactly right. There is no excuse for it except to enjoy the fine things life offers at the faithful’s expense.--Before the SSPX closed and sold St. Philomena to Pentecostals in the area. Fr. Hopkins had a lovely house near that Church. The SSPX could have stationed a priest there and rotated every month or so with another one; that way, the priest would get to live with other priests and have someone always on the station. They decided to sell the chapel and the house without telling a single soul about it except through an announcement on their website.

    I must say I'd have to think twice about putting money in the collection if I knew the priests were drinking $100 bottles of wine and smoking cuban cigars, and eat Kobe beef steaks on a regular basis.  I'd send my contribution off to some other Traditional group that actually needed the money instead.
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    « Reply #24 on: February 12, 2024, 07:17:46 PM »
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    • Quote: "I know that when it comes to the SSPX, this is a concern for many Catholics."
    ??? Of course that is a concern!! The only way I can navigate the worst, most terrible, horrible, continuing disaster of the Most pure Holy Mother Church in the entire history of the world is to determine Who is really Roman Catholic, following truth and Tradition, then to find the enemies of God and His Church. Just like a football field has 2 ends, so does this battle have ONLY TWO  war camps: God on one end, satan at the other far end. But in the middle there is a red line. If you step over that red line , you have just entered enemy territory...and you are now a traitor to God's militia.
    Do you think Sspx  Sanford Chapel is still fighting for God's glory? That local bishop is under obedience to the Pope, his superior. I therefore posit that our Holy Father tiptoed across the red line,  ummh...?  like,  many seasons ago!! He just made a touchdown with F S in Dec 2023. 'Down' is a word esp. apt for this post...Heaven is Up , he ** is down. The Pope might be expecting a convert:popcorn:
    Spiritual Work of Mercy: To instruct the Ignorant.
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    ps. God will win!
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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #25 on: February 12, 2024, 07:57:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: MiracleOfTheSun on February 12, 2024, 12:46:46 PM
    Didn't realize I posted anonymously.
    Same thing just happened to me: Anonymous. I am thinking that if a user is browsing a thread without yet logging in, and then logging in to post a Reply, maybe the platform just can't figure what is going on. 
    Anyway, the two camps post was mine. Don't make buddy friends with dah enemy! Got it?? Pray for their conversion yes...
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    Re: Sspx Sanford - More Works with the Novus Ordo
    « Reply #26 on: February 12, 2024, 08:21:10 PM »
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    • Quote from: Änσnymσus on February 12, 2024, 07:57:12 PM
    Same thing just happened to me: Anonymous. I am thinking that if a user is browsing a thread without yet logging in, and then logging in to post a Reply, maybe the platform just can't figure what is going on.
    Anyway, the two camps post was mine. Don't make buddy friends with dah enemy! Got it?? Pray for their conversion yes...

    Now, individual Conciliars can be a bit on the fence in that they profess the Catholic faith, but the problem is that the entire Conciliar establishment is not Catholic and must be avoided, as it will contaminate Traditional Catholicism ... inevitably.  You can try to dilute strong poisons in a lot of liquid, but they're still poisons even if they're harder to taste when diluted.  in fact, they're more dangerous because you're less likely to notice them.

    Just as the "old guard" priests are dying off, those who know what we're fighting against, and are getting replaced by "cradle Trads" who have no clue, Vatican II is repeating itself in microcosm within Traditional circles, particularly the neo-SSPX.  We've already seen the earliest form of Modernism, the Biblical Modernism, breaking out in full force with Fr. Paul Robinson's horrific and scandalous work that is actually promoted officially by the Modernist SSPX.  That's where Modernism started in the first place, and it's where it's starting again with the SSPX.  They're also implementing precursors to Modernism in things like the Dialog Masses, the 1950s Holy Week Rites, etc.  They're enforcing modesty standards less and less in their churches.  Religious indifferentism runs rampant, as very few Trads actually believe in EENS dogma.  We are witnessing in slow motion the SSPX trainwreck into Modernism the same way that it happened leading up to Vatican II.
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    « Reply #27 on: February 12, 2024, 09:15:32 PM »
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    • Isn't this the Dawn Marie chapel?
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    « Reply #28 on: February 13, 2024, 09:32:21 PM »
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    • Prior Venroy is on a rampage this week trying to get money for a bungled project in Davie. The faithful have been fleeced to the tune of a million dollars. 
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    « Reply #29 on: February 14, 2024, 09:07:10 AM »
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    • “February 14th is Ash Wednesday* and a day of fast and abstinence. It is a grave obligation to keep this rule.

    * Ashes will be available Sunday February 18th”
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